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[Dutch]

I can see where you're coming from OP, but I think this post would have a lot more weight if you'd waited to post it after the Witcher 3 was actually released (or better yet, after you'd finished playing it).

 

Even with details released beforehand, this isn't really a fair comparison. 

 

nonsense, it would be unfair if i dealt with story or sidequesting. Im dealing with the observable and known. We know these settlements are in the game, it comes from collectors edition map, we know DAI has only 5 settlements. Therefore, i can compare such things and draw conclusions.

[Eelectrica]

Looking forward to Witcher 3. If it manages to live up to its hype, it will be a special game indeed.

[Winged Silver]

nonsense, it would be unfair if i dealt with story or sidequesting. Im dealing with the observable and known. We know these settlements are in the game, it comes from collectors edition map, we know DAI has only 5 settlements. Therefore, i can compare such things and draw conclusions.

 

But you haven't actually experienced the Witcher's settlements for yourself, though. I think from Inquisition, we all know that quantity does not automatically equal quality. 

[Dutch]

Obviously, OP, you prefer the Witcher 3 to DAI. You should really go play it, since you find it so much more scenic and immersive.

 

Oh, wait... That's next month. Maybe.

 

They should just create an area of the forum specifically for TW3 comparisons. That will give fans a chance to get it out of their systems. And then the moderators should hit "flush".

 

i preferred the DA-verse to witcher, but after the disaster of this game and the retcons i am forced into purgatory. And i have the feeling that witcher 3 will be heaven!

[Dutch]

But you haven't actually experienced the Witcher's settlements for yourself, though. I think from Inquisition, we all know that quantity does not automatically equal quality. 

 

it doesnt matter, the official collectors edition map has all these settlements in them listed. I doubt that cdpr would cut content after printing the collectors edition map.

[o Ventus]

Poland - developing nation

 

Canada - developed nation

 

Developing nation vs. developed nation doesn't have any hard line that separates the two, so you;ll have to try again. It's almost an insult to label Poland as a developing nation when they're the 8th highest GDP in the EU.

 

CDPR - medium sized company with little outside help

 

I think you mean "medium sized company backed by one of the largest digital distribution platforms in the world".

 

Bioware - larger team

CDPR - smaller team

 

CDPR as around 230 developers under their belt, and DAI was worked on between multiple teams from the Edmonton and Austin divisions. You (nor anyone else) have no idea how many people worked on DAI.

 

I'm not even goign to waste my time on the rest of these.

[Winged Silver]

it doesnt matter, the official collectors edition map has all these settlements in them listed. I doubt that cdpr would cut content after printing the collectors edition map.

 

I'm not talking about cutting content. I mean that quantity=/=quality. So far, all you've said is that TW3 has more settlements. But you're making an assumption that they're all going to be high quality, when that's just something we don't know yet. And that is why I don't think it's a fair comparison. 

[Dutch]

Developing nation vs. developed nation doesn't have any hard line that separates the two, so you;ll have to try again. It's almost an insult to label Poland as a developing nation when they're the 8th highest GDP in the EU.

 

 

 

 

I think you mean "medium sized company backed by one of the largest digital distribution platforms in the world".

 

 

 

 

CDPR as around 230 developers under their belt, and DAI was worked on between multiple teams from the Edmonton and Austin divisions. You (nor anyone else) have no idea how many people worked on DAI.

 

I'm not even goign to waste my time on the rest of these.

 

[AresKeith]

*snip*

 

Yep troll confirmed

[Paul E Dangerously]

Bioware just isn't keen on cities as of late. Kirkwall in DA2 was eh, and it was the only one in the game. You saw things like the Citadel go from pretty expansive in ME1, to a tiny series of locked areas in ME2 and 3. Inquisition really doesn't have any.

[Il Divo]

All I'm saying:

 

Firelink Shrine > all other city hubs. 

[Mirrman70]

I just want to ask. is this like a Google Map kind of thing of TW3's in game environments or...... is it like a picture of a "map" that shows all of these settlements on them... but you don't necessarily go to them all.

[Dutch]

I just want to ask. is this like a Google Map kind of thing of TW3's in game environments or...... is it like a picture of a "map" that shows all of these settlements on them... but you don't necessarily go to them all.

https://www.ebgames....oster-bonus.jpg

 

you can go to all of the locations mentioned.

[Hellion Rex]

Yep troll confirmed

I mean, was there any real doubt?

[Exile Isan]

There are more than five settlements in DA:I if you want to get technical, it's just that two of them were destroyed by the civil war in the Dales. There are houses all over the Emerald Graves and in the Exalted Plains, both of which were abandoned or destroyed in the fighting. Also Skyhold and any of the keeps you capture (Griffin Wing, Caer Bronnach, Sudelin) could be considered settlements.

[Enigmatick]

Not sure I understand the point of this comparison when the developers themselves said populated areas would be few and far between.

 

You're just kind of stating the obvious.

[b10d1v]

Wow, late to this party!  These are interesting statistics, but Launch is when? May?  

Remember Crestwood and the closed demo, spectacular gameplay -DAI never got it.

Crysis 3 had significant numbers of buildings, but only a few had any function, the grass and trees moving in the wind had more function.

ESO had plenty of NPC wandering around and most were about as interesting as the mice and birds.  Point being, intelligent dialog and behaviors to make interesting characters is demanding on the front end and on the user end.  

 

Similarly, witcher 3 will need to be scaled back when all platforms are tested -it's hardly all set in stone yet and it could slide again.  Hope that they have good QA with the balls to stall launch if/when the errors pop up.

 

There is also the management side:  Bioware/EA stumbled with technological development, they did not fall and there is plenty of creativity and significant game development investment as well as QA -I know thats hard to bite, but it's in black and white.  Bioware and EA also know that this stumble was costly to their image and that their IP (intellectual property) is at risk...I would not count them out so easily.

[London]

I think you can include Skyhold and the 3 Keeps as settlements too. Also the Crossroads.

Sorry but DAI did fail at creating a living world. most NPCs stand frozen in one spot and have no life other than standing still so the player knows where to find them at all times. I don't recall a day/night cycle so if there is one and I can't remember for sure after 190 hours it couldn't have been meaningful.

I am one of those people that didn't mind the letters and notes that told little stories about the world, but it would have been nice for them to show a little more instead of just tell. Instead of a horrific letter, why not show innocents suffering during the mage war - maybe being sadly caught in the crossfire or imperiled on the road to Redcliffe.? We hear about these issues but see none of it. Or the Mages that were set on fire when they were boxed in by the Templars - it would have been way more interesting to happen upon that as it happened rather than finding that someone wrote a letter while the house burned down that somehow was still legible.

Really no one seems to leave the games settlements (or move around at all) aside from occasional soldiers that stand next to some useless item they found and lugged to the middle of nowhere in a treasure chest. The shards need to just go because they make the world seem superficial. I mean, you are telling me that someone set up the skulls to find the shards but didn't bother getting any of them? Some would have taken absolutely no effort since they are only a few feet away.

IT may be the case that you can only show and not tell in more cinematic experiences rather than open world ones. Will look forward to seeing how the Witcher ends up handling this.

[GithCheater]

sorry but DAI was a disappointment to any practical and objective person. 

 I apologize for not being practical and objective ... pffft no...

[thats1evildude]

Thank Christ there was no day/night cycle. Those are horrid.

[KBomb]

it doesnt matter, the official collectors edition map has all these settlements in them listed. I doubt that cdpr would cut content after printing the collectors edition map.

That is a lot of settlements! I hope we can visit each one. I do like the fact if you liberate a town, people actually move into it and you can see it prosper. It's nice to see your efforts come to fruition.

[Scofield]

Just for you OP

 

[Vault_Tec101]

OP I think you jumped the gun and should've waited until release just so that we can at least fully verify your claims (that the areas are better than DA:I).

 

But with that being said I gotta admit the so called villages or towns were really underwhelming. Redcliff Village really felt more like the village market place than the actual village, not to mention that it was really tiny compared to the entire hinterlands. Even Val Rayouex was the biggest underwhelming 'city' (more like a roundabout with a patioed McDonalds and a few Guns'R'Us liberally sprinkled here and there). It felt so empty that at times I had to wonder where is the population of this most famed place? Is there something more interesting going on? Why am I not there? 

[KBomb]

I'm not talking about cutting content. I mean that quantity=/=quality. So far, all you've said is that TW3 has more settlements. But you're making an assumption that they're all going to be high quality, when that's just something we don't know yet. And that is why I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Well, to be fair, in the new gameplay trailer, it shows a city and just the brief pan-over looked amazing and certainly more vast and populated than any settlement or the Summer Bizarre in DAI. In the same trailer it showed a vast travel map, too. Lots of places to go. Will they all be huge and populated? Not sure, but IMO, the towns and settlements in TW2 were much more detailed and populated than any in DAI, so it's logical to conclude that TW3 will be more of the same, if not better.