324 réponses à ce sujet

[themikefest]

Yes, but the shields have the ability to restore themselves. 

I agree that hit and run tactics are the only way to go about it and that they might even give the Normandy a certain advantage, but the risk is too high IMO. 

Would you rather fly in front of the thing?

 

On the other hand, even Joker was impressed at Sovereign's manueverability (when it took a sharp turn at Virmire....he said that move would tear other ships apart)... so maybe that doesn't even apply.

Can a reaper move like that on the ground?

[Vazgen]

Would you rather fly in front of the thing?

I'd rather not fight it at all. And if I'm forced to, I'll try to do as much damage as possible with a single strike. Bombs, thannix cannon, all you can do to damage the destroyer.

[CrutchCricket]

You're acting like thannix "imma firin mah lazor" shots require complete immobility to work. A destroyer's a pretty big target. The Normandy can corkscrew and barrel-roll all she wants, as long as the nose is pointed at the Reaper, the thannix stream will do its job.

[Gago]

I will buy the story about Cerberus taking Omega through deception but Sur'Kesh intervention/incursion? No way.

[Vazgen]

You're acting like thannix "imma firin mah lazor" shots require complete immobility to work. A destroyer's a pretty big target. The Normandy can corkscrew and barrel-roll all she wants, as long as the nose is pointed at the Reaper, the thannix stream will do its job.

Well, Normandy faced beam-like weapons twice and was hit twice. Once it was destroyed (SR1), the second time it gets damaged or blocks the damage thanks to the armor upgrade. And I think Destroyer has superior targeting and firepower to the Collector Ship. 

[CrutchCricket]

Well, Normandy faced beam-like weapons twice and was hit twice. Once it was destroyed (SR1), the second time it gets damaged or blocks the damage thanks to the armor upgrade. And I think Destroyer has superior targeting and firepower to the Collector Ship. 

The first time was a surprise attack (in just about all senses of the word) and it was the SR1, an inferior ship in all respects, particularly speed and maneuverability.

 

The second time the Normandy isn't hit at all (provided you have all upgrades I guess. But not having the thanix cannon or the armor wouldn't affect Joker's piloting at all or the speed/maneuverability of the ship in any meaningful way). Now compare the kind of flying Joker can do (distracting Cerberus during Grissom comes to mind) with the thannix and you have yourself a serious threat.

[Vazgen]

The first time was a surprise attack (in just about all senses of the word) and it was the SR1, an inferior ship in all respects, particularly speed and maneuverability.

 

The second time the Normandy isn't hit at all (provided you have all upgrades I guess. But not having the thanix cannon or the armor wouldn't affect Joker's piloting at all or the speed/maneuverability of the ship in any meaningful way). Now compare the kind of flying Joker can do (distracting Cerberus during Grissom comes to mind) with the thannix and you have yourself a serious threat.

Been too long since I played ME2. Forgot that it were those Oculus things that hit the Normandy.

[KaiserShep]

I will buy the story about Cerberus taking Omega through deception but Sur'Kesh intervention/incursion? No way.

 

From what I gathered, this was due in large part to a security breach from within the STG. You get some banter between a couple of salarians about some security issues before going down the elevator. I suspect that whoever within STG allowed Cerberus to do this also ensured that this particular base would be isolated. This does raise a whole lot of nagging questions though, like why any of the salarians would permit Cerberus to just mow through their own people, and what the point was.

[themikefest]

I'm thinking they shared the same goals about the genophage cure. Although how they would know about it, I don't know. You're just coming right from the meeting with Wrex and Dalatrass. Did someone make a quick phone call to Cerberus to sabotage the whole deal? lol.. 

I believe the edibot is the leak. How does it know it has full control of the platform? It was built by Cerberus. I wouldn't be surprised if they can see and hear everything on the Normandy just like the platform can without the edibot knowing. It believes it has full control of the platform.

 

It would also explain how Cerberus knew about the bomb on Tuchanka. It would also explain how Wrex knew if the genophage was sabotaged. Cerberus sent him the audio file. I can't explain why Wreav didn't do anything. He may of tried and was stopped. Or he may of chosen to ignore the message

[KaiserShep]

I'm thinking they shared the same goals about the genophage cure. Although how they would know about it, I don't know. You're just coming right from the meeting with Wrex and Dalatrass. Did someone make a quick phone call to Cerberus to sabotage the whole deal? lol.. 

 

I guess my problem is, it's made pretty clear that there's a traitor among the STG, but it's never brought up again as if the matter is just resolved. It kinda makes me feel even better about curing the genophage.

[MrFob]

 Hell, all the "feelgood" choices in ME3 are repeating Saren's path, for that matter. Everything's come full circle.

 

That's pretty cool. Never thought of it that way but you are right. Of course, when Shep cures the krogan or allies with the geth, he does so to stop the reapers, not to empower them but still, in the end Shep also does it to use these races. it's a nice little twist on the saying "Spend enough time fighting the enemy and you will become just like the enemy".

[Daemul]

There's too many damn traitors and moles in STG, bunch of idiots made getting an agreement between the Turians and the Krogan much harder than it already was. I killed Mordin, but there's still at least one more mole unaccounted for, knowing the Salarians though, they probably did a full investigation and by the end of the game any remaining moles are no longer among the living. 

 

I would have liked to shoot them myself though. 

[themikefest]

I can't decide if I want to kill mordin in my next playthrough or not. He's very convincing in ME2...but then goes 180. I wonder if he's actually happy if you just convince him to go on the Crucible. Or is he gonna feel guilty again and try another cure when Shepard isn't looking. lol

Do it. Let him die during the suicide mission. Padok Wiks, a good character, takes his place in ME3

[KaiserShep]

The writers kind of make it out like not curing puts them on the brink of extinction, but it's a different message in ME2. They need to make up their ****** minds.

 

The problem is that keeping the genophage intact leaves the krogan with the issue of keeping their population viable during a protracted and devastating war with the reapers, which was exactly the thing Wrex tried to avoid both during his time as a clan leader before meeting Shepard, and again as clan leader in ME2.

[KaiserShep]

Well, the reapers are gonna destroy them anyway. But just the same, having the krogan just sit it out is not an option, since the Primarch's terms for committing forces is getting krogan on Palaven.

[RanetheViking]

From what I gathered, this was due in large part to a security breach from within the STG. You get some banter between a couple of salarians about some security issues before going down the elevator. I suspect that whoever within STG allowed Cerberus to do this also ensured that this particular base would be isolated. This does raise a whole lot of nagging questions though, like why any of the salarians would permit Cerberus to just mow through their own people, and what the point was.

I always thought it might be an indoctrinated Salarian, like the guy you let out of the cell on Virmire. Lt Manos Savatte(sp) or something.  I mean he sounded normal/okay, but then so did Rana Thanoptis.

 

Assuming he outran the blast of course, but again, if Rana did/could so could he. 

[CrutchCricket]

What do you want from me exactly? To cure it with Wreav and no Eve? Is it really that simple to you?

Actually it is.

 

If you're so fond of "the worthy survive, to hell with everyone else" you'll cure it. Because then the krogan get to decide for themselves whether they can adapt to their circumstances by controlling their own population. Or whether they'll choke on their own millions of starving young. Just as nature intended.

 

The krogan have nothing. No ships, no infrastructure of any kind. Recall EDI's discussion on logistics. We can barely deploy the existing krogan where we need them. What are they gonna do on their own? Precisely dick. They control their population themselves according to what their dead dustball of a world can provide or they go extinct. There is no purer expression of "survival of the fittest".