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#51
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Actually, the QFI, usually with a vanilla M-98 Widow or Kishock. Yeah, the Black Widow's more effective but I enjoy the single shot guns more, especially the latter with its ragdoll effects. Sticky grenades are fantastic and synergize really well with sabotage and cloak.

QMI is for when I can't be bothered to have to think about the enemy and just want to grenade them all into oblivion.

I actually haven't been able to make the QFI work much beyond Geth. Then it's just fun to troll them with the likes of

 

CrutchCricket [Geth Pyro] Geth Pyro.

 

Won my first gold duo that way. Wave 10 pizza strolled right by a prime while it was busy annihilating the hunter beside it. :lol:  And on Plat I managed to get one to kill a Banshee.

 

Good times.


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Loltaccloak is hardly easier than lolannihilationfield or lolclusterfuckgrenades. At least you have to use and therefore be able to aim your gun.


Oh on MP nothing is better than mine human sentinal with Wraith.

lol it's ok if you got outscored in MP. The game's three years old. epeen is a thing of the past.

Let it go.

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Lol cant be outscored. Even if I was a level 1 volus with a predator.

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I actually haven't been able to make the QFI work much beyond Geth. Then it's just fun to troll them with the likes of

 

CrutchCricket [Geth Pyro] Geth Pyro.

 

Won my first gold duo that way. Wave 10 pizza strolled right by a prime while it was busy annihilating the hunter beside it. :lol:  And on Plat I managed to get one to kill a Banshee.

 

Good times.

 

Want to see something better? Click here.

 

Hint: 10:54 is the magic number.


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Want to see something better? Click here.

 

Hint: 10:54 is the magic number.

Oh yeah, they did change it into more general mind-control.

 

Sweet.

 

And I do remember seeing that video before. The justice. It pleases me.



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I actually haven't been able to make the QFI work much beyond Geth. Then it's just fun to troll them with the likes of

 

CrutchCricket [Geth Pyro] Geth Pyro.

 

Won my first gold duo that way. Wave 10 pizza strolled right by a prime while it was busy annihilating the hunter beside it. :lol:  And on Plat I managed to get one to kill a Banshee.

 

Good times.

Problem is that Sabotage got nerfed so hard that It is pretty much useless for what you'd think it be for nowadays, which is hacking robots. They don't draw aggro and hardly do any damage.

Its best feature nowadays is the rank 6 Tech Vulnerability evo, which powers up all tech powers including fire explosions and tech bursts by 50%. You can prime and detonate these with the sticky grenades and sabotage's incendiary or disruptor ammo (sabotage's own backfire effect on organics as well). Built properly, they do so much damage in combination that gold brutes and scions can be killed with a single grenade>sabotage> shot from cloak, or you can stick the middle guy in a group and watch as they all get nuked.

In singleplayer, sabotage is still overpowered because you can still hack two targets at once, and it still has a 100% tech damage bonus instead of 50%, but everything is overpowered in singleplayer anyway.



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We have optical camouflage? And if we do, should you really be telling me in a public forum?

 

Sure.

 

Having something is not the same as telling you how it works, or how and where and why we use it.



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Why do you even need squadmates? Adepts are basically easy mode.



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Problem is that Sabotage got nerfed so hard that It is pretty much useless for what you'd think it be for nowadays, which is hacking robots. They don't draw aggro and hardly do any damage.

Its best feature nowadays is the rank 6 Tech Vulnerability evo, which powers up all tech powers including fire explosions and tech bursts by 50%. You can prime and detonate these with the sticky grenades and sabotage's incendiary or disruptor ammo (sabotage's own backfire effect on organics as well). Built properly, they do so much damage in combination that gold brutes and scions can be killed with a single grenade>sabotage> shot from cloak, or you can stick the middle guy in a group and watch as they all get nuked.

In singleplayer, sabotage is still overpowered because you can still hack two targets at once, and it still has a 100% tech damage bonus instead of 50%, but everything is overpowered in singleplayer anyway.

What I've noticed is that a hacked thing will just stand there unless there's an enemy right in front of it. However it will attack or move to attack the next enemy you shoot, meaning you can still "paint a target" provided it can get to it in time before the hack wears off. And yeah it is more of a distraction than a viable strategy. And it depends what you hack. Troopers are useless. Rocket troopers and hunter can at least stun and pyros can do some damage, though nothing crazy. Primes are good, unless they spawn a drone/turret and then immediately attack it :lol:

 

But I'll check my build and try the strategy you mention. Right now I just Cloak->Claymore-Sticky what I can't hack and let Fire explosions do their thing.



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Is the Sabotage bad in MP if you spec if for pure synthetic hacking? Duration, Explosive Hack, Berserk

I found this setup to be quite useful in SP but I haven't played MP.



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I can't remember how I specced it. But I know it doesn't last long in my case. You could check out the Balance thread in the MP forums for the changes they've done to it.


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Go-to team in Insanity was Sentinel Shep, Liara, and Kaidan.

 

Most battles went like:

- Singularity (Liara)

- Detonate with Throw (Shep)

- Reave (Kaidan)

- Detonate with Throw (Shep)

- Singularity (Liara)

- Repeat until all enemies gone.

 

Sometimes I mixed things up and detonated Reave with Liara's Warp!

 

But honestly I think Adepts and tech-based characters become much more effective in Insanity because the AI for weapon-reliant companions like Soldiers is idiotic, and they will constantly go out of cover and get shot down and killed within a couple of rounds. Adepts can cast their techs from behind cover and no matter where they are in the battlefield, so I spent most battles keeping them out of harm's way while my Shepard shot / detonated through all the enemy waves.



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Is the Sabotage bad in MP if you spec if for pure synthetic hacking? Duration, Explosive Hack, Berserk

I found this setup to be quite useful in SP but I haven't played MP.

I think that is a non ideal way to spec it, since those evolutions only work against geth enemies, turrets and Atlas mechs, while making the power have virtually no utility against organic enemies. Additionally, I don't find the actual hacking aspect to be that useful apart from as a distraction, and anyway, the actual duration of the hack is also influenced by certain enemies. Primes or Atlases, for example, are only hacked for half of the listed duration. In singleplayer though, you can at least still hack two enemies at once, so using it for this purpose has more an argument in favour of it than it would in multiplayer. The actual evos I take depend on the class (for infiltrator, you can basically ignore recharge speed) and weapon weight, but I never take Berserk in single or multiplayer on any build.

At least try the Tech Vulnerability evo at rank 6. The most universal way is to put it on Tali. Use it against boss enemies or clusters of mooks, then setup tech combos with Shepard and your other squadmember. On higher difficulties, you can destroy Primes, Atlases or Banshees in literally a few seconds, and nuke entire groups with a single tech burst or fire explosion. Sabotage itself also primes for tech bursts 1.5 seconds after the cast, so if you hit with a fire based power (incinerate, carnage etc.) then tech detonator, you'll get tech burst> fire explosion> tech burst in a window of a couple of seconds, with the powers and combos all doing double damage. On insanity (assuming all powers are at rank 6), this will usually bring a Banshee down to a few bars of armor by itself, and assuming you're firing between the gaps, essentially kills her and everything else in a 7.5m radius. Very underrated power IMO.

Another use for the rank 6 evo is in melee builds. Both the Infiltrator and the Engineer's heavy melee are counted as tech attacks, so they are also buffed 100% multiplicatively (that is, after all other damage from fitness and armor/weapon mods is calculated). A melee infiltrator shepard with a shotgun omniblade from a properly specced cloak can kill any insanity humanoid with a single heavy melee if sabotage is cast beforehand, and it only takes a few hits on bosses. You can make the same build in MP with the Quarian Infiltrator (female) and the Turian Sabotuer engineer.



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There is an astonishing lack of Tali and Garrus in an Adept setup which cannot be allowed to stand.



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IMO, that's because Tali and Garrus suck.



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Tali and Garrus are both very useful, albiet not as much in a biotic team, but that goes both ways. Liara's pretty useless in a tech/combat biased squad, but ridiculously destructive paired with anyone who has a biotic detonator. Overall, effective squad makeup in this game is more about bringing a lot of the same types of characters, rather than having a balace of biotics, tech and combat.

Not that it really ever matters, because one can power through everything solo without much effort.



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Mass Effect 1-3, had Tali and Garrus in my squad for the majority of the missions. :) I mostly play engineer, so we had a good thing going. :)



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Not that it really ever matters, because one can power through everything solo without much effort.

 

Yeah, my Soldier Shepard is soloing in places that entire teams of Krogan Battlemasters, Turian Special Forces, and N7 teams can't crack. And he's doing it with utter ease. 

 

And I'm not talking about just gameplay. I'm talking about in-universe, in my own canon.

 

He's bar none the single greatest soldier in the history of the galaxy. 



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There is an astonishing lack of Tali and Garrus in an Adept setup which cannot be allowed to stand.


 Garrison Talley? Never heard of him.



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Yeah, my Soldier Shepard is soloing in places that entire teams of Krogan Battlemasters, Turian Special Forces, and N7 teams can't crack. And he's doing it with utter ease. 

 

And I'm not talking about just gameplay. I'm talking about in-universe, in my own canon.

 

He's bar none the single greatest soldier in the history of the galaxy. 

I've posited before that the only reason the Widow in ME2 has so little ammo is because my squadmates keep hiding it. If I could snipe everything, they wouldn't have anything to do- something that is proven in 3.



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I've posited before that the only reason the Widow in ME2 has so little ammo is because my squadmates keep hiding it. If I could snipe everything, they wouldn't have anything to do- something that is proven in 3.

 

That's why they retired the old system of weapons and replaced them with thermal clips. Without them, they might actually have a chance to kill something before Shepard.


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Tali and Garrus are both very useful, albiet not as much in a biotic team, but that goes both ways. Liara's pretty useless in a tech/combat biased squad, but ridiculously destructive paired with anyone who has a biotic detonator. Overall, effective squad makeup in this game is more about bringing a lot of the same types of characters, rather than having a balace of biotics, tech and combat.

Not that it really ever matters, because one can power through everything solo without much effort.

 

That's actually not totally true. Sure, Liara shines much brighter in a biotic team, but she's still useful in tech team, since her Warp can detonate all kinds of tech combos. She's most versatile of all squadies, bar none. Garrus and Tali can't really claim that. And mind you, I don't really hate any of them. Quite fond of scar face, actually :)

 

But yeah, if we're making comparison, Liara brings more to tech oriented team than Team Dextro does to biotic one.

 

Yeah, my Soldier Shepard is soloing in places that entire teams of Krogan Battlemasters, Turian Special Forces, and N7 teams can't crack. And he's doing it with utter ease. 

 

And I'm not talking about just gameplay. I'm talking about in-universe, in my own canon.

 

He's bar none the single greatest soldier in the history of the galaxy. 

 

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Picture all the Chuck Norris facts rolled up into one then scaled appropriately for an entire galaxy. That's how awesome Shepard is.

True story.

Shepard could've dick punched the Reapers from day one. He just didn't want to spare anyone else the pain.


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Indeed.

 

Still, rather hostile reaction to my Shepard. 



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My Shepard isn't that awesome, skillwise. He's just crazy.



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As much as I love Miranda (and Kasumi) there's only one fitting LI for Shepard, and that is femShep. That's why there's two of them. They can't be in the same universe or it'd spontaneously explode. Twice.