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[PapaCharlie9]

Here is my personal ranking of dragons, from easiest to most difficult, assuming you are at the same level or no more than 3 levels below the dragon.

 

(Yes, I know all dragons can be one-shotted and speed-killed with the right combination of OP skills and gear -- this ranking sets that aside and assumes first-time encounters).

 

Northern Hunter L13 - Crestwood

Abyssal High Dragon L14 - Western Approach

Gamoran Stormrider L15 - Exalted Plains

Vinsomer L19 - The Storm Coast

Fereldan Frostback L12 - Hinterlands

Hivernal L19 - Emprise du Lion

Greater Mistral L17 - Emerald Glades

Kaltenzahn L21 - Emprise du Lion

The Highland Ravager L23 - Emprise du Lion

Sandy Howler L20 - Hissing Wastes

 

You'll notice the males are easier than the females, since the females have dragonling adds ones with dragonling adds are harder. I also generally rate the fire dragons higher than the other elementals, due to DoT effects, and those stupid pools of fire that seem to burn forever all over the battlefield.

 

I put the Howler above the Ravager because the Howler has more room to maneuver and she uses it. You end up chasing her all around the canyon, whereas the Ravager is limited by the hole she's in.

 

Vinsomer might rate harder depending on your handling of it's attack that is similar to Static Cage. If you don't have a good counter for it or lots of resistance tonics, that battle is much tougher, possibly above Greater Mistral.

 

Agree? Disagree? What's your ranking?

[capn233]

If you are relatively close to their level, then I would rank all the ones with minions higher than the others probably, and probably throw Highland up there.

 

Also I don't know that fire is any worse than the others, but I haven't spend a lot of effort reequipping my squad or taking the right resist potions so I probably always just had more fire and cold resist than electricity, which also seems like that AOE attack is more irritating if you can't dispel.

 

I killed Sandy Howler yesterday.  Was 20 when I past it napping, then 21 when I came out the tomb.  I was only able to hit it for a measly 33k and some change with MoD (forgot to turn on squad focus abilities, doh).  As far as going all over the place, the Fereldan Frostback is the one I remember chasing around the most.

 

edit: it's hard to really adjust this by level, because in a lot of ways the lower level ones are going to feel a bit more difficult since your level 11 party is a lot weaker relative to a 13 or 14 dragon than a level 20 party is to a level 21 or 23.

[Forsythia77]

All of the high dragons are female, FYI.

 

I think all of the Electric dragons are more difficult than any of the cold ones, but that is just personal experience.  I usually have the most issues with Sandy Howler, but I would rank her pretty much equal with the Highland Ravager.  She gets bonus points for being in a wee tiny enclosed area that makes it more of a pain in the butt to kill her. I had to solo the Highland Ravager on nightmare.  That sucked because of her babehs!

[Arvaarad]

Highland Ravager was definitely the hardest, for me. If she wasn't dead before summoning her second set of dragonlings, I just reloaded the game.

She starts summoning them really early in her health bar, too. They're hard to avoid. I've seen some people say Kaltenzahn is harder, but Kalt's dragonlings are easy to skip.

The lightning dragons were the easiest, because I was doing the dragon fights solo. Lightning dragons are pushovers when they can't do their overlapping lightning ring attack. IIRC, none of them have dragonlings, which are the only real threat in dragon fights (everything else is telegraphed and can be dodged).

[SofaJockey]

I found the Kaltenzahn hardest.

 

After that, I readied all my party with crafted heal on kill and with fade-touched materials giving guard on hit + elemental potions.

Wading in with a health-replenishing party, Warrior, Rogue and 2 barrier pumping mages, all generating full guard was a recipe for success...

[Zikade]

I had most problems with Vinsomer but that was mostly because I was underleveled when I fought her =P. Also had a nice glitch which royally messed up my progress. I.e. I had almost killed the dragon when the game suddenly decided to launch my character hundreds of feet into air, drop down, revive all my dead allies AND give Vinsomer all her health back. (Ffffffffffuuu-)

 

Same could be said for Fereldan Frostback since she's easy to stumble upon while seriously underleveled and without better abilities/equipment. Also, before you even get into the real fighting area, those dragonlings and the dragon's airborne attacks may have already caused you to spend several health items. 

 

I should some day try to tackle them all at the same level as the Dragon in question so I could form a more objective opinion. 

[Tharkun]

For someone unprepared Fereldan Frostback is the hardest.   Just getting to the clearing where you fight him will wipe out your potions if you don't get what is going on right away.  Plus that dragon has the most movement and can be very hard on a melee party.  Finally it is placed where you can easily encounter the dragon at level 6 or 8, pre-spec and way to underleveled to fight without cheese tactics.

[PapaCharlie9]

All of the high dragons are female, FYI.

I stand corrected.

[PapaCharlie9]

Highland Ravager was definitely the hardest, for me. If she wasn't dead before summoning her second set of dragonlings, I just reloaded the game.

She starts summoning them really early in her health bar, too. They're hard to avoid. 

For solo battles on NM I'd give Ravager top rank, because of the extra waves of adds. I should have specified my ranking was for mixed parties, in my case, half melee/half ranged-magic.

 

Ravager definitely deserves to be up there. I gave the Howler the edge due to handicapping melee attacks. Also, even though I've fought Ravager fairly underlevelled on NM (18 vs 23), the party was one-shotting the dragonlings, so the extra waves weren't more than a distraction.

[luna1124]

If all of the high dragons are female, how are they laying eggs and having babies? I thought the ones without offspring to call in during a fight were the males....

 

Oh, and I had a lot of trouble with Gamordan Stormrider due to the acidic water

[Jaison1986]

If all of the high dragons are female, how are they laying eggs and having babies? I thought the ones without offspring to call in during a fight were the males....

 

Oh, and I had the most trouble with Gamordan Stormrider due to the acidic water

 

Only the females can grow as big as an high dragon. The males never get any bigger then drakes.

[SofaJockey]

If all of the high dragons are female, how are they laying eggs and having babies? ...

 

Frankly, when the time comes for two excited dragons to have some sexy time, that would be a moment for anyone to stand clear !   

[Forsythia77]

Frankly, when the time comes for two excited dragons to have some sexy time, that would be a moment for anyone to stand clear !   

Do you think Dragons are like Praying Mantises?  Where after the male does his thing she bites his head off?

[Arvaarad]

Do you think Dragons are like Praying Mantises? Where after the male does his thing she bites his head off?

Though it's implausible, I'm rooting for the anglerfish strategy, where the male attaches itself to the female and slowly gets absorbed into her body.



Nature is wonderful.

[capn233]

Only the females can grow as big as an high dragon. The males never get any bigger then drakes.

 

Yes, the males never get larger than drakes because drakes are the males.

[Dieb]

Northern Hunter.

 

I read he drops the Inquisitor's Hat schematic, so I was inclined to challenge him when still grossly underlevelled.

 

Blackwall eventually sorted it out, though. After like an hour in real time.

[Forsythia77]

Though it's implausible, I'm rooting for the anglerfish strategy, where the male attaches itself to the female and slowly gets absorbed into her body.



Nature is wonderful.

 

I've learned something new and will store this nugget of knowledge away until I find some way to work it into a half drunken monologue at a party. 

[Cydh]

The hardest Dragon in a full party is the Fereldan Frostback, when fought at a proper level with a properly unprepared team of four underlevelled characters. Every other dragon fight in the game is honestly a pushover, because merely reaching them means you're powerful enough to wish there were three or four of them to fight at the same time. How awesome would that be, by the way. Bioware pls.

[luna1124]

To me, any dragon you stumble upon (not ready for with potions and stuff) is the hardest As seen here....

[PapaCharlie9]

To me, any dragon you stumble upon (not ready for with potions and stuff) is the hardest As seen here....

Yeah, running away from all those giants could end up badly.

[q5tyhj]

 

I think all of the Electric dragons are more difficult than any of the cold ones, but that is just personal experience.  

Its the Exalted Plains one that tends to be most obnoxious for me, and almost entirely because your squadmates are too stupid to avoid the electrified water and so you have to spend half the fight babysitting them (redirecting them out of the water, chugging potions, etc.). There should be an option on the "Tactics" menu to make your teammates automatically avoid standing in **** that kills them- or better yet, have teammate AI that's good enough that this isn't necessary in the first place. 

[q5tyhj]

The hardest Dragon in a full party is the Fereldan Frostback, when fought at a proper level with a properly unprepared team of four underlevelled characters. Every other dragon fight in the game is honestly a pushover, because merely reaching them means you're powerful enough to wish there were three or four of them to fight at the same time. How awesome would that be, by the way. Bioware pls.

This is how it is for me- whenever I do a SP playthrough I want to start killing dragons as soon as possible (for the gear, XP, premo crafting materials, etc.) and so the first few dragons tend to be the toughest (you're underleveled, have crappy gear, etc.)... whereas by the time you get to the Sandy Howler and Emprise Du Lion dragons you've got godly gear and your characters are high enough level to have most or all of the skills they need to maximize their specialization/build, so the fights tend to be a bit of a roflstomp even on Hard or Nightmare. 

[ApocAlypsE007]

For me the ice dragons are by far the easiest. The dragon that gave me the most trouble was Sandy Howler because of her tendency to swarm you with minions, and they aren't weak as the Hinterlands dragon and she spawns them at higher rate than Highland Revager.

[Fireheart]

Well I beat 6 dragons without dying once (and when I say that, I mean I was never KOed by them, whenever my health got low I just ran away, healed at camp, then came back) it was only when I fought Sandy Howler (the one in Hissing Wastes?) that things got difficult. Especially because I think I had gotten "sloppy" with all the other dragons, they were so easy, I was expecting Sandy to be another walk in the park. Like pretty much everyone agrees on, it's the dragonlings that make the fights hard. I think I fought her about 6 times in a row before I just gave up and decided to come back later. I was on Hard and had no crafted weapons or armor, but I eventually beat her. The ones in Emprise I fought with my first crafted armor (I think, I know I definitely had it against Ravager, plus new weapon) and I beat them all on the first try, I was mighty surprised by that... Highland Ravager gave me a run for my money, those dragonlings were killer... Once I got her SOOOO close to death, I think I only needed two or three more hits, but I died... I never felt so much rage than at that time. I think it might've taken me some 10+ tries. I don't remember how I won... Just a lot of Dragon Rages and Spirit Blades. So yeah, that's it.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I've learned something new and will store this nugget of knowledge away until I find some way to work it into a half drunken monologue at a party.

There's a great music video about this on YouTube. Anglerfish, by Hank Green.