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Dragon Age Inquisition, The Weight Of A God? 
 
I have logged more hours into this game than I think one should. I couldn’t put my finger on why until on my fifth play-through. It wasn’t that the reason didn’t already cause that strange tingle up my neck and I had ignored it. No, I knew it all along. It just took more work to get to a richer understanding as to why I felt so stumped by it. 
 
I changed characters. Tried different races. Played each class all the way through. I even played all difficulties and I am 3 achievements away from completion including the DLC. (In case my efforts would be in doubt.) 
 
Mythal reveals herself to the world.  
 
Take a moment here. Understand that. Know it. 
 
I have experienced a great deal of religion in my life. I am named after a Baptist missionary priest who was also my grandfather. I grew up in the southern US with tons of different devotions to varying degrees of commitment. I pursued the Catholic faith myself for a while for tiring of fire and brimstone. Later came to be an agnostic/atheist-lite. I have Muslim friends, Buddhist friends and Christian friends, family and so on, and I nod encouragingly as they still persist. That aside-because I do have a point. 
 
Let’s say Thor; god of ancient Viking mythology literally attacked, controlled and demanded the undying loyalty of the literal commander of a military power today. Revealed themselves in the flesh and laughed hahaha…ha. “Dig it!” 
 
Those aforementioned holder’s of other beliefs would lose their pudding! This is Michael Bay level panic that would be felt.
 
In Dragon Age Inquisition; (and I know this isn’t new to only Dragon Age!) not a single freak out other than Sera swearing about it happens. We are talking about a real God of old. Cassandra doesn’t go nuts. She struggles with it like someone gave her an Easter basket on Chinese New Year. “What is this? A basket? Could it be the truth?” 
 
“It’s a living God Cass!” As the before mentioned pudding is flung to the corners of the room. 
 
The Dwarves: No reaction at all. 
 
Visit the Dalish: Nope. Not even the ability as a Dalish Inquisitor to reveal it. 
 
Qunari: Bull after the Fade; present or not, must be beaten with a stick to get over it.     Nothing on Mythal.
 
Chantry: No comment.
 
Before I get the, “Why would the Quizzy reveal something like that? It’s dangerous.” speech. Hear me out. 
 
1) The walls have ears. The Inquisitor in the making falls from a rift. In a day without internet; his/her divinity, chosen-one identity is spread like a gospel to the far reaches of Thedas. Our timetable for Inquisition is fairly tight unlike Dragon Age 2 spanning 10 years or more. It is like barely a year. The rumor of divinity built an Inquisition. Now we are to believe a reveal like a God of Legend popping up to contend all rational thought and convention doesn’t cause a stir? 
 
Where were the elves of the alienages? Put down by humans. They didn’t revolt? Or the Dalish?  
 
2) Morrigan: Is my favorite here. By far the biggest head scratcher. Her mother is a God of old. “Flemeth, the old witch is now my mommy-god?” Morrigan; seeker of all things powerful, magical and forgotten just got upgraded to demi-god. And I suppose her reaction to it as little more than “She was special. I knew that.” was so underwhelming I guess because of the old adage of seeing her put her pants on one leg at a time, or taking a dump humanized Flemeth so greatly that being a God, capital G was not a huge revelation.
 
3) The Inquisition : Wasn’t shaken to it’s core and destroyed by it.
 
I only need 3!
 
Corypheus is one thing. Many dismissed him as some ubber powerful mage who was lying to get control of some “earthly godhood.” I still don’t understand why he chose southern Thedas to control! Why not Tevinter first? Anywho. 
 
But we get Flemeth to Mythal without a beat. Later on post-game Solas as Dread wolf (and yes I know it isn‘t known outside the scene.) None of this causes the panic it should! 
 
In a world with a universally dominant religious identity for the most powerful nations the revelation of myth to Truth, capitol T, does little to effect it? Wait. I already know the answer here, insert; “We haven’t been told this yet!” Smiley face. “They still could….” 
 
“Imma let you finish; but everybody knows…” Is this is not something you can illustrate in an epic speech trying to quell your frightened masses? End. Cliffhanger. 
 
Extended gameplay from multiple points of view didn’t change anything. 
 
Several characters are now elevated to Gods in some way or another. Gods! 
 
Thor’s in the building! People keep watching the game. Seriously. Even by fantasy standards it’s hard to wrap around the most flexible imagination. There will be more reactionary responses to threads on SEX IN THEDAS here in the forums than that.
How does this happen? 
 
Meredith in DA2 goes super-powered and somehow the mages still get blamed. This is the very lead in to the Inquisition. I’m tired of trying to suspend my critical thinking and skepticism so I can enjoy this stuff.  
 
Each installment is starting to lose it’s head because the game is continuously afraid to close the age out. We spend more time going backward and redressing the past than building stories that stand alone with beginning, middle and end. At least Mass Effect did this even with controversy. 
 
Maybe growing up with Pacman, Frogger, Centipede and Q-bert leading to this evolution has called me to pay attention to the games differently. This is why I avoided MMO’s. Find a story, make it real and compelling and by all things holy protect your lore with some authority! Maybe I’m just a mythological player in league with the bitter story hitting to close to home. Too jaded to stay silent and ignored while all the other’s complain about different things. Is that the point? 
 
I think I’ve learned my lesson though. There are other stories to explore.
 
Dragon Age now hides it's identity behind sex, soap-opera and avoidance. Will that change?
 
Failing to find the weight of a revelation of something like a God and it's basic effect on society at large weakens the lore, the story and lowers any effect the rest of your story can have. I suppose it could be God-sex, soap-opera and eternal awkwardness coming next. This is the age for it.             

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In the end it can be explained as... Mythal wasn't revealed to the wider world. Only the Inquisition learned this. They didn't seemed all that fazed at all, and that's never touched on at all. 

 

The Dalish would probably be thrilled to learn of it, but so far there has been no hint that even a Dalish Inquisitor was actually going to share this information with them. The rest of Thedas would shrug it off as a crazy powerful witch with a god complex, claiming to be an ancient pagan god and nothing more.

 

Considering Mythal isn't waltzing across Thedas striking terror into peasant's hearts in dragon form, no one has any reason to believe that Mythal exists. Hell, even the ability to shape-shift into dragon form isn't really that special in Thedas. She did it in Dragon Age Origins and not the Warden, nor party, nor player went: "wow, this witch turned into a dragon, that must she has the powers of a god"

 

So really... there isn't much reason for anyone to react whether Mythal remains known only to the Inquisition or not. It'd be like going around claiming your Jesus. Sure you might have a few cool tricks up your sleeve, but unless you can shake the world, nobody is going to believe you. 

 

Fan'Heral, the Dread Wolf on the other hand, might just shake the world. 


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I find it strange in game , there's no way to react to that.

Playing a Dalish with Mythal vallaslin on his face , well it was a very strong moment in the story.

 

Now I would say most people would dismiss this , Cassandra ,and the chantry would say "Duh Flemeth is an abomination .End of the story."

But erf you can't go to Solas and talk about this.

 

Anyway if the Inquisitor would say openly I met Mythal , and the old elven goddess granted us the boon to defeat Corypheus...nobody would believe it.

Mythal isn't a popular god , only the Dalish still worship her , and a bunch of city elves still pay lips service.

 

Spoiler

 

So no Mythal didn't reveal herself to the world , she reveals herself to the Inquisitor and Morrigan.

Most of the world has forgotten about her a long time ago.


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In the end it can be explained as... Mythal wasn't revealed to the wider world. Only the Inquisition learned this. They didn't seemed all that fazed at all, and that's never touched on at all. 

 

The Dalish would probably be thrilled to learn of it, but so far there has been no hint that even a Dalish Inquisitor was actually going to share this information with them. The rest of Thedas would shrug it off as a crazy powerful witch with a god complex, claiming to be an ancient pagan god and nothing more.

 

Considering Mythal isn't waltzing across Thedas striking terror into peasant's hearts in dragon form, no one has any reason to believe that Mythal exists. Hell, even the ability to shape-shift into dragon form isn't really that special in Thedas. She did it in Dragon Age Origins and not the Warden, nor party, nor player went: "wow, this witch turned into a dragon, that must she has the powers of a god"

 

So really... there isn't much reason for anyone to react whether Mythal remains known only to the Inquisition or not. It'd be like going around claiming your Jesus. Sure you might have a few cool tricks up your sleeve, but unless you can shake the world, nobody is going to believe you. 

 

Fan'Heral, the Dread Wolf on the other hand, might just shake the world. 

 

 

I find it strange in game , there's no way to react to that.

Playing a Dalish with Mythal vallaslin on his face , well it was a very strong moment in the story.

 

Now I would say most people would dismiss this , Cassandra ,and the chantry would say "Duh Flemeth is an abomination .End of the story."

But erf you can't go to Solas and talk about this.

 

Anyway if the Inquisitor would say openly I met Mythal , and the old elven goddess granted us the boon to defeat Corypheus...nobody would believe it.

Mythal isn't a popular god , only the Dalish still worship her , and a bunch of city elves still pay lips service.

 

Spoiler

 

So no Mythal didn't reveal herself to the world , she reveals herself to the Inquisitor and Morrigan.

Most of the world has forgotten about her a long time ago.

 

 

Did the Inquisitor reveal his/herself to the World? 

 

It only took a handful of witnesses, not even witnesses of note-just offscreen NPC's to raise the Inquisitor to Andraste's Herald. That's not a farcry from Odin-son. You can't even deny it in game.

 

Sera's little people somehow know everything about everything without her knowing anything about anything! The vehicle for distribution in the game is ever-present and convenient when needed by the plot. Each faction has some kind of EARS (point 1) to gain a foothold and knowledge of the Inquisition. People; the players seem to want to ignore such a thing as if it isn't part of the game. It is very much the entire basis for how player becomes Inquisitor.

 

In Jaws of Hakkon; not only are troops everywhere fighting with Avaar driven by their God (A god to them without question) even the beloved Scout Harding is witness to it. Now unless the Inquisition requires all members a vow of silence under threat of death-information travels.

 

The intellectual dishonesty is wildly out of balance. The Inquisitor's propaganda is the only propaganda to be believed? Even when witnessed. Defenders of this writing are lining up with an indefensible argument that only what supports the Inquisition is knowledge to the ingame people. Secret circles on a grand stage. No that is not how reality works. Not even within the game. The historical inaccuracies in game only support what I am saying. Forgotten history and disenfranchised history for competing powers happens over time. In Inquisition in a day with limited communication-the incidental Inquisitor to-be became legend in a very short period of time. It is completely improbable that such information as Mythal being real would be ignored given that half of the old Conclave floated above the world as an epic battle occurred with Corypheus endgame. That would not be ignored.  

 

"Thor's in the building." The crowd responds incredulously. "Who dat?" I don't think so.

 

Not only does Mythal reveal herself but she could also have control over the Quizzy fountain style from the Elven temple of her name. Again place this anywhere else in the game and it would be the same. God is real? God could be real. That God is real! It's a mental exercise that uneducated and scared people of an age like this would lose their pudding. It's damning pudding too. The good kind.  

 

Let's not mention that common soldiers of the Inquisition were being engaged by ancient elves outside of the temple of Mythal. It's absolutely laughable that oeople cannot see how the average person would be like, "Hey bro." Soldier Dan whispers.

 

"Wassat?" Soldier Steve acknowledges shaking from the violence they just endured.

 

Dan leans in close. "Ya know. We're at this elven temple place right?"

 

"Yeah." Steve the dumber one leans in.

 

"That's a God, that Mythal chick right?" Dan cuts his eyes violently side to side.

 

Steve eyes widen at the thought.

 

Suddenly ancient elves begin killing groups of their comrades. Dan and Steve run like rabbits. They don't stop until their legs give out. Overhead Coypheus' Dragon flies by ominously. Corypheus the rumored ancient Magister from holy canticles. Dan and Steve find their belief's reluctantly becoming more alive and threatening. They are just men. Steve wets his pants. Dan moves away slightly to avoid the embarrassing liquid.

 

"What if, say, that Mythal is real?" Dan and Steve look around frightened as the Inquisitor himself fends off ancient elves. It is a holy war now.

 

"Get up men!" Demands Cullen. "Clear a path to the Temple!"

 

Dan and Steve survive. All the way to the temple. Back to Skyhold.

 

That's just two men. Out of a massive unseen force. Not to mention scouts digging for information in ruins and recovering notes from bodies. Someone knows-even if like the Inquisitor alone lifted by rumor into an exalted one-people know.    



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Everyone knows the elves had their own gods. In what way does the presence of elves in an Elven temple prove the existence of said god?

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Well, in Mythal's case, the word "god" seems to have meant little more than "above averagely powerful spirit type creature"... after all, Solas, who bled and got knocked down like the normal mortals in our party got the better of her in the after credits scene. 

 

Shouldn't the real question be what actually qualifies as a god? To a primitive enough people, the lighting striking from the sky and setting a tree on fire might be a god. From what I've seen of the Dalish "gods" so far, they seem to be exceptional spirits, nothing more, nothing less. Certainly not gods in the sense of "omnipotent being".  A god like Marvel's Thor, who seems to find his match in a billionaire/playboy/philantropist in self-designed armor, is probably less likely to cause a world wide panic than someone who, say, could make the moon explode with a snap of their fingers.


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TL;DR version?



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TL;DR version?


FleMythal reveal should have had a bigger impact
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Can I introduce you to this lovely concept of...


Cherry picking?


Only believe what you want to believe and what benefits you. Even now that Mythal revealed herself, I expect nothing but complete denial from everyone, save for maybe the Dalish.



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In my party Solas was defeated by a puppy  bear.....what example of a powerful god .....


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In my party Solas was defeated by a puppy  bear.....what example of a powerful god .....

Fairly certain he was just allergic to adorableness.

Noooo+_58d013d56efa640b8cbdb53e5705fb03.


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Understand that Andrastian faith never denied the existence of other gods. People get confused on that point, including Andrastrians. The Chantry only opposes worship of other gods to the exclusion of the Maker, as was the case with the Old Gods.

A quote from WoT talking about Ferelden's animist roots:

"The old ways are disappearing, but the Chantry does not demand their removal or promote hatred against the old deities. The Maker simply stands above them."

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I think a quote from Solas sums it up rather well, "I don't believe they were gods, unless you stretch the word to the point of absurdity."

 

And since Solas is of the same group as Mythal, I think his opinion is the according to Hoyel truth on this matter.

 

Both to me and my Inquisitor Mythal is just some ancient spirit who despite her "murder" still knows a few tricks, and now is nothing better than an angry, magical parasite.



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The DA world already has magic and mystical things. It isn't to the level of 'maybe it exists or doesn't exist' that we have IRL modern life.

 

The Chantry doesn't outright deny the Elven gods even. Just minimizes their importance.

 

I wasn't surprised there wasn't a major freakout. This is confirmed knowledge only to the Inner Circle and Andrastans doesn't know or care much about the Elven Creators. All this news does is, at best, encourage more general research and exploration of Elven ruins and history.

 

 

EDIT: What would cause panic is the undeniable proof or disproof of the Maker. Or a giant appearance of the Titan-ish figures (I think) hinted in the lore. The religion of the Elves is nearly (but yeah, not exactly) on par with the existence of Old Gods in this specific respect. Sure no one had seen the Elven gods for a long time, but we know there's crazy magics in Thedas and we know there's long histories about these gods, so few, even of the Chantry, would deny that they existed in some way. They might deny the Elven gods are true gods compared to The Maker, but this isn't a case of them existing or not.

A closest IRL example is if we see clear proof of the existence of Jesus in the VERY GENERAL context of the magical (Christians often hate that word for this but w/e) story we're often told about him. This may bolster many Christian views, but it also doesn't change many. So there's more stuff to bolster Bible stories - okay? Doesn't mean there isn't still matters and concepts beyond it, and scientists can still figure those out. "Jesus existed" isn't going to rock the world. "Mythal existed" is interesting to Thedosians but ultimately won't change many minds in itself. Its still easy to just see her as an extra powerful witch/spirit and nothing more.



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Well afterwards, everyone was probably like "Probably demons or ancient magic mumbo-jumbo. Not gods."

Other explanations exist for miraculous things in Thedas that don't involve the Elven gods being real gods. And so, just like most people, the members of the Inquisition choose the answer that conforms with their pre-existing ideas: That there was some magic at work.

And it is unlikely that news of Mythal was spread all across Thedas. It likely remained within a small, well informed group (the Inquisition, maybe a few others).

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I think your miss understanding the reveal.

 

Mythal did not revail here self to the world. She only did that to 2 people. The quis and Morrigan. One is a character which the player has full control of there actions and the other suspected for years her mother is more and thinks the fact she is meeting her mother again spells her end. And nothing states or shows anyone else in the inquistion knows about Mythal...Just 2 people. So how can other people react to info that was never given.

 

And the truth of what happened in Kirkwall was totally warped and people use scap goats for things they fear and don't understand. Every thing there just gets labeled under  "dangerous evil magic" and gave more fuel to the  "magic must sealed away for the safety of everyone " argument.

 

This is not a case of Thor is walking among us in the open , more of a case of Thor is walking among us hidden and only a hand full of people know it.


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Well afterwards, everyone was probably like "Probably demons or ancient magic mumbo-jumbo. Not gods."

Other explanations exist for miraculous things in Thedas that don't involve the Elven gods being real gods. And so, just like most people, the members of the Inquisition choose the answer that conforms with their pre-existing ideas: That there was some magic at work.

And it is unlikely that news of Mythal was spread all across Thedas. It likely remained within a small, well informed group (the Inquisition, maybe a few others).

What everyone?

 

No one in the inquisition knows about it out side of the quis and morrigan.



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Did the Inquisitor reveal his/herself to the World? 

 

Yes they did.

The quis when to Val 

the winter place.

Many parts of ferelden.

And many places in Orlais.

 

And it was not a had full of witness at the quis' coronation ether.

 

And on the fact they had ambassadors and emissaries coming in daily  who see the quis.

 

That's much different then two people who saw Flemeth as Mythal and said nothing.



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I think the weight of the Gods will be measured in stone. eg. Solas is probably 10 stone. Sandal is immeasurable.

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I think the weight of the Gods will be measured in stone. eg. Solas is probably 10 stone. Sandal is immeasurable.

 

Trying to fathom a measurement for Sandal?

 

I suggest sleeping with one eye open, Sandal won't tolerate people trying to put his presence into context. 

 

Unfortunately I can't add to the topic, but "The Weight of Gods" would make a great title for a DLC/New Novel/Short story



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There's a reason Flemeth keeps the whole "I have pieces of Mythal in various vessels" under wraps. It would cause world panic, especially for those who follow the Maker. I really love how Bioware applies humanism to the lore, especially in this game. Solas, a living and breathing "god" says it better himself after being called out ("You don't even believe in the Old Gods!"): "I don't believe they were gods, no, but I believe that they existed! Something existed to start the legends! If not gods, then mages, or spirits, or something we've never seen." He's speaking from primary experience without giving himself away. The Inquisitor understands firsthand what kind of panic would ensue if she told the world of Mythal's identity—some people see the Inquisitor as a god, sent by a god, or deny it altogether. No doubt, the Inquisitor will be written as such a god as it becomes history.

 

As for panic within the party about Corypheus, I feel like it makes sense. If you're trying to lead people into fight with an ancient mage demon, you want the best. You can't have everybody losing their cool when the rest of the world is already doing that. Plus, they never said they weren't worried. Each shows their concern in their own way. Dorian sees Corypheus as a curious piece of his history and wants to understand his power/resources for knowledge. Cole is a spirit and feels Corypheus' fears and Despair is his greatest fear so I'd imagine he doesn't pick his head often. Varric is all sorts of panicked—he feels guilty he and Hawke failed in taking down Corypheus to begin with. Iron Bull, like you said, releases stress through violence and sees Corypheus as an out of control "Vint". Cassandra is worried what it means for the Chantry and her faith is shaken—helplessness scares her. Solas is the reason Corypheus has that power and he's trying to undo his mistake so that he can carry on with his own plans. Vivienne worries what this will mean for the Circle of Magi afterward so she sees this as an opportunity to return things to the way they were and advance as First Enchanter (and then Chantry Divine). Sera...well, she panicked outwardly but she just really wants him to take an arrow to the face. Blackwall is more preoccupied with keeping up pretenses but I don't think he understands just how dangerous Corypheus is.

 

Each of them are panicked in their own way and a lot of what I pointed out above relates to each character's greatest fears (Despair, Nothingness, Temptation, Helplessness, Irrelevance, Madness, etc). In each of their party banters, they all talk about how they don't want to panic the people. They've got a lot to worry about already.


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There's a reason Flemeth keeps the whole "I have pieces of Mythal in various vessels" under wraps. It would cause world panic, especially for those who follow the Maker. I really love how Bioware applies humanism to the lore, especially in this game. Solas, a living and breathing "god" says it better himself after being called out ("You don't even believe in the Old Gods!"): "I don't believe they were gods, no, but I believe that they existed! Something existed to start the legends! If not gods, then mages, or spirits, or something we've never seen." He's speaking from primary experience without giving himself away. The Inquisitor understands firsthand what kind of panic would ensue if she told the world of Mythal's identity—some people see the Inquisitor as a god, sent by a god, or deny it altogether. No doubt, the Inquisitor will be written as such a god as it becomes history.

 

 

That's one my Quis' worst fears.



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That's one my Quis' worst fears.

Mine too :( (well, one of my multiple Inquisitors). It's even more interesting because we the player, an omniscient observer, are watching history unravel itself the way it did with Solas and Mythal again...except we may get to see it happen firsthand instead of hearing about it through codexes and dialogue—through the eyes of the writer, the common people. The "gods" are not invulnerable to their own mistakes and they are able to die—exactly like the Inquisitor. Pretty exciting stuff  :D



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It seems my point is being dodged like it is in real life by people with opposing beliefs. 

 

Christian philosophy ignores the existence of Chinese philosophy in the western world for the most part. So much so that in the south I hear people regularly still make jokes about Chinese secrets and refer to their "truth's" as mysticism. In this example and similarly drawn description people here as fans and players refer to the Maker as the greatest reveal. What if you play as an elf? Mythal being not only real but alive and kicking, actively moving about would be absolutely huge! 

 

The idea that THE EARS from point 1 of my original post is that people would find out. Sera and her little people for instance. Elves in the kitchen overhearing this talk would absolutely lose it! All of their suffering, all of their ignored history has WEIGHT to it. The concept of God, capitol G is being handled like it wouldn't matter because one side would simply not care about it. I took the time to explain how two soldiers, regular Joes would react under a hint of that reality. It would be like fighting in Afganistan as a Christian only to have your leader confronted and put in line by Mohammad or some other prophet.

 

No one has yet even challenged the situation with Morrigan either. Everyone is doing exactly what I expected and going right to their 'head-cannons'.More was done in this game to discredit religion, the status of religious authority and it's truths while leading the main character into a false role as one potentially. And people line up to die for the Inquisition. That's exactly what I'm talking about. People line up to die for their God. Their Truth is more important than the reality. Let something take that truth and turn it on it's ear and see who becomes invigorated by it.

 

This didn't happen. And frankly it's insulting to see the TLDR in a thread like that, it should be an instant flag to be honest! You are in a game forum where some of the strongest content of the game is in literature only. The game is 18 or older for mature content and it's a struggle to find decent thoughtful conversation. "But that's the internetz-you're doing it wrong old timer!" 

 

Mythal revealed herself to your entire family in Dragons Age 2 in this new sense. How does this keep happening? Each game raises the player to a new sense of awareness while further burying the lore in the sand. True is true except for you! We keep making head cannons and excuses for what seem to be a real absence of a consistent plan or timeline in a fictional game. It isn't living breathing dogmatic truth like we live with but people still manage to play and draw a delusional line in the head cannon states of each playthrough and argue away honest questions.

 

The WEIGHT of a God is absent. Everything that happens in the story either gives authority to the lore or it rewrites the lore. Too many times this is being done-moving backward and not forward. It's LOST with Dragons. Afraid to confront something like this. I feel the writer's are afraid to notch the bow on it. They will tell you a story about multiple points of sexuality, the discrimination and destruction of entire races but they won't commit to it truthfully. It's dishonest story-telling; races and mature content handled just for ratings. As a commenter here said-the lore has magic and that changes the game but it doesn't remove the realism they struggle to maintain in the soap opera.

 

Weight! Will Dragon Age continue to tell big stories and not show them? Will Dragon Age confront the very real idea that the Age will come to a close? Will Dragon Age commit to some core tenants and adhere to them? Or continue to play dollhouse adventure-time with great concepts at the expense of a narrowing thoughtful audience?

 

TLDR: Find a thread with pictures.  



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Morrigan's reaction made sense to me, actually, in that she's never believed in gods. She says it herself in the Temple, that more  likely than anything the Elvhen Gods were likely just super powerful Elves or political leaders. That and Morrigan has lived a pretty fantastic life herself - her son bears the soul of an old god if you did the ritual. I don't think she gets surprised that often. She had a similair reaction to learning her mother wanted to steal her body. She adjusted and thought about it and made a plan, because that's what Morrigan does. She was waaay more invested in potentially losing Kieran, and to me that made sense for her.

 

Also:

 

Did the Inquisitor reveal his/herself to the World? 

 

It only took a handful of witnesses, not even witnesses of note-just offscreen NPC's to raise the Inquisitor to Andraste's Herald. That's not a farcry from Odin-son. You can't even deny it in game.

 

Yes, actually. The entire world was watching the Conclave, and it felt the destruction of Andraste's Tomb and the Divine very keenly. Not to mention the huge hole torn into the skyline. So when your PC falls out of said hole with super powers? And then stops the aforementioned hole from tearing apart reality? Yeah, people are going to be paying attention. The Quizzy may not have revealed themselves, but circumstance and the others who survived the Conclave were more than happy to do it for them.

 

Mythal's reveal lacked bystanders. And it definitely lacked bystanders who wanted to share what they saw. With the Quizzy, Leliana, Cassandra and co. used the rumors, helped encourage them, to boost the Inquisition's standing and because they were inclined to believe them themselves. The whispers were encouraged to grow into a rallying cry. But this? Everyone who knows about seems inclined to keep the matter quiet. What would be the point?

 

Shall we tell the Dalish their Goddess has been around all this time, the All Mother, but she has little to no interest in them and doesn't plan on revealing herself to them anytime soon? Would the Dalish even believe that, especially coming from the Chantry-based Inquisition?