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SAVE THE MILKYWAY! Mass Effect 4 to DELETE MILKYWAY BECAUSE ANDROMEDA?


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I wonder if people think the HoF doesn't matter because their not the protag anymore

 

That would only apply if DA:I was happening in Middle Earth.

 

Anyway, that image of the wormhole(?) has got me thinking. What if someone at Bioware had been watching DS:9? That would be an interesting setup.



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That would only apply if DA:I was happening in Middle Earth.

 

Anyway, that image of the wormhole(?) has got me thinking. What if someone at Bioware had been watching DS:9? That would be an interesting setup.

More accurately, it would be like DA:I happened on another continent, which funnily enough is something some fans have been asking for, exploring beyond Thedas that is.



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That would only apply if DA:I was happening in Middle Earth.

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Tbh it's not really Bioware's fault. Mass Effect is a trilogy with overarcing plot, vast lore, hundreds of choices and thousands of variables. They had 3 choice, 1: Make choices not matter in the end (basically a canon ending), Leave the ending open or do what they've done.

First one would've been awful imo, I rather have my choices matter within a trilogy and not every game in the franchise than not matter at all.

The second one is bad too, you can't just leave a trilogy open.

 

It's just basic story writing. Stuff have to end eventually.

 

I'd say it more of a result of the ME team not fully thinking ahead (like they always do :P)

 

If Bioware did want to do more ME games after ME3 then they should have done a basic canon ending with your choices affecting the aftermath


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I'd say it more of a result of the ME team not fully thinking ahead (like they always do :P)

 

If Bioware did want to do more ME games after ME3 then they should have done a basic canon ending with your choices affecting the aftermath

 

That would've been a horrible way to handle a trilogy imo.



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I'd say it more of a result of the ME team not fully thinking ahead (like they always do :P)

 

If Bioware did want to do more ME games after ME3 then they should have done a basic canon ending with your choices affecting the aftermath

That was a chronic issue with the trilogy.  Though in all fairness I don't think they knew a sequel would be coming for most of development and then there was the fan poll that rejected th eidea of a prequel of side-quel...



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That would've been a horrible way to handle a trilogy imo.

 

I guess, but I actually do agree with the people who wanted to explore more of the Milky Way. But the way the Trilogy ended kinda hurt those chances

 

Which I honestly think Bioware should've did more the bolded part before ME3



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I guess, but I actually do agree with the people who wanted to explore more of the Milky Way. But the way the Trilogy ended kinda hurt those chances

 

Which I honestly think Bioware should've did more the bolded part before ME3

I completely agree.  If ME3 had not included so many galaxy altering choices up to and including the endings, I would be all for a game set in the Milky Way.  The way things are, I don't really think its doable in a satisfying way.



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I guess, but I actually do agree with the people who wanted to explore more of the Milky Way. But the way the Trilogy ended kinda hurt those chances

 

Which I honestly think Bioware should've did more the bolded part before ME3

 

Me too. I'm gona miss the Citadel and Omega and the Homeworlds. But porbably we gona feel the same way about the Helius Cluster after the next game I imagine.

 

I also agree with the bolded part. They should've done more with the Homeworlds especially. 1 mission on each Council race's homeworld is not enough (we weren't even on Palaven), it would've been better for the story as well. Thessia felt very rushed for one.


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Me too. I'm gona miss the Citadel and Omega and the Homeworlds. But porbably we gona feel the same way about the Helius Cluster after the next game I imagine.

 

Exactly, if I ever miss the Citadel, I can go back and play three games and two plot twists worth of Citadel. I like that with Andromeda BioWare can get creative with the setting again.


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I completely agree.  If ME3 had not included so many galaxy altering choices up to and including the endings, I would be all for a game set in the Milky Way.  The way things are, I don't really think its doable in a satisfying way.

 

I don't know. Even if they held back on the choices what enemy could they make in the Milky Way that could challange the united Galaxy?



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Exactly, if I ever miss the Citadel, I can go back and play three games and two plot twists worth of Citadel. I like that with Andromeda BioWare can get creative with the setting again.

 

Yep, when people feel the trilogy didn't matter or they miss it they should just go back and replay it.


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Me too. I'm gona miss the Citadel and Omega and the Homeworlds. But porbably we gona feel the same way about the Helius Cluster after the next game I imagine.

 

I also agree with the bolded part. They should've done more with the Homeworlds especially. 1 mission on each Council race's homeworld is not enough (we weren't even on Palaven), it would've been better for the story as well. Thessia felt very rushed for one.

 

I was hella annoyed about Palaven and Thessia

 

I also wanted to go back to Ilium (even came up with a MP idea for it)



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I don't know. Even if they held back on the choices what enemy could they make in the Milky Way that could challange the united Galaxy?

Well, just how united would it be?  That's the interesting question, as various species try to claim new influence and supremacy in a galaxy of weakened superpowers.

 

The threat wouldn't have to be exterior.



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It was bound to happen http://en.wikipedia...._Way_collision 



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It was bound to happen http://en.wikipedia...._Way_collision 

 

 

Funny that's the

 

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Infantile? I am going to let that pass since you didn't understand the meaning of what I wrote. Let me explain it to you in the words that you can understand.

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I knew exactly what you meant, and I think you know what I meant, and I think you're being very disingenuous and entitled. Your personal opinion of what something means doesn't make it everyone's opinion, or the objective truth, out anything like that. Many posts between the two of ours back me up. Arguing that just because Shepard's story is over, and the Reapers' story is over, and that we'll never revisit them, makes the whole thing meaningless, is really ridiculous and small minded. If that's how you personally feel, welcome to it, but for a great many of us, the ME trilogy will always have great intrinsic meaning, no matter what comes after. Also saying that a game set elsewhere isn't mass effect, well, that would be someone's personal opinion, not subjective fact. It's ridiculous that people have to keep pointing out these same things over and over. It's like arguing with kids, or fundamentalists, or idiots, or trolls.

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How do you address the ending of me3 if you go to andromeda? Or do you just ignore it?
How can the reaper war and shepard (and the function of the crucible she chose) not be referenced in some way?
With synthesis and control the reapers are still around. Is this just ignored? No reference made to it? How to explain what these 1000s of 2km long spaceships are up to?
Otherwise we are at destroy and a Canon ending. And then you might as well have just stayed in the milky way.

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Arguing that just because Shepard's story is over, and the Reapers' story is over, and that we'll never revisit them, makes the whole thing meaningless, is really ridiculous and small minded. 

 

"Look! Frodo just destoyed the One Ring! It's finally over!" - Legolas

"****, I guess the battle of Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith doesn't matter anymore. Fml." - Gimli


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#370
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How do you address the ending of me3 if you go to andromeda? 

 

What do you want addressed about it? There's the Extended Cut, head-canon the rest. Easy.


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How do you address the ending of me3 if you go to andromeda? Or do you just ignore it?
How can the reaper war and shepard (and the function of the crucible she chose) not be referenced in some way?
With synthesis and control the reapers are still around. Is this just ignored? No reference made to it? How to explain what these 1000s of 2km long spaceships are up to?
Otherwise we are at destroy and a Canon ending. And then you might as well have just stayed in the milky way.

 

The theory is that the Ark leaves before the Reaper War ends as a contigency plan if the galaxy loses to the Reapers.



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How do you address the ending of me3 if you go to andromeda? Or do you just ignore it?

 

Possibly have it set during ME3 before the ending (or for some centuries after, I personally don't see it)

 

How can the reaper war and shepard (and the function of the crucible she chose) not be referenced in some way?

 

Who says they (with the exception of Shepard) won't be?

 

With synthesis and control the reapers are still around. Is this just ignored? No reference made to it? How to explain what these 1000s of 2km long spaceships are up to?

 

Same as the first answer I gave

 

Otherwise we are at destroy and a Canon ending. And then you might as well have just stayed in the milky way.

 

They could canonize Destroy, but obviously they won't



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What do you want addressed about it? There's the Extended Cut, head-canon the rest. Easy.


Fine. Are the reapers coming with us on this jaunt to set to a reaper colony? Maybe harbinger wants a holiday planet.
Maybe it's an expedition sponsored by control shep.
Maybe one of the squadmates is a banshee.

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Fine. Are the reapers coming with us on this jaunt to set to a reaper colony? Maybe harbinger wants a holiday planet.
Maybe it's an expedition sponsored by control shep.
Maybe one of the squadmates is a banshee.

 

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The Ark had to leave before they deployed the Crucible to escape the ending choices.



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I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The Ark had to leave before they deployed the Crucible to escape the ending choices.

It's pretty much the entire point of Ark Theory