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[Pasquale1234]

Think of it this way:

JK Rowling starts writing a series of books about a witch/wizard who lives in a remote area. No Hogwart's, no Ministry of Magic, no Quidditch matches, no contact with Harry Potter's wizarding world.

It would not make Harry's journey and defeat of Voldemort any less meaningful.

Any mention of Harry and his friends, Hogwart's, etc., would only serve to bring back references to that setting that might somehow diminish the new protagonist due to the reader's associations. People were very invested in Harry's story, and Rowling would do well to avoid references so as to give the new character and setting a chance to capture the reader's imagination, just as Harry did.

[Br3admax]

Wow. 16 pages of how the fans think their opinion of a setting is more important than the author who creates it. **** like this is why BioWare should ignore this place far more than it already does. 

[Sion1138]

People post opinions and your conclusion is that they think them more important than the author's?

 

Can anything actually be discussed here without accusations of self-importance?

[LinksOcarina]

It's pretty much the entire point of Ark Theory

 

And this is an assumption that they had time to gather resources, use FTL drives and drift in space for hundreds of years to get to another galaxy to colonize it almost Battlestar Galactica Style.

 

Anyone else find that idea to be a little bit out there as a possibility? Isn't just much more sensible to believe the re-opened a Mass Relay, or is that too easy?

 

I think the problem is people are assuming way too much about something we barely know about right now, I have yet to see a timetable on when this game is even taking place. If it's 2185 then I would give the theory more creedence. 

[dreamgazer]

Anyone else find that idea to be a little bit out there as a possibility?

Absolutely.

[AresKeith]

And this is an assumption that they had time to gather resources, use FTL drives and drift in space for hundreds of years to get to another galaxy to colonize it almost Battlestar Galactica Style.

 

Anyone else find that idea to be a little bit out there as a possibility? Isn't just much more sensible to believe the re-opened a Mass Relay, or is that too easy?

 

I guess it depends if a Mass Relay can launch a ship to another galaxy 

[Heimdall]

And this is an assumption that they had time to gather resources, use FTL drives and drift in space for hundreds of years to get to another galaxy to colonize it almost Battlestar Galactica Style.

Anyone else find that idea to be a little bit out there as a possibility? Isn't just much more sensible to believe the re-opened a Mass Relay, or is that too easy?

A Mass Relay doesn't solve the problem, it leaves open the possibility of return and the influence of the ME3 endigs.

My version of Ark Theory involves a secret society with knowledge of the Reapers making preparations for the past decade, so time isn't such an issue.

[Iakus]

Absolutely.

Me too.

 

But then I also think it's a little out there that people don't comment about reanimatnig a corpse or plugging a battery into the Citadel can rewrite biology.  So what do I know?

[Br3admax]

People post opinions and your conclusion is that they think them more important than the author's?

 

Can anything actually be discussed here without accusations of self-importance?

If they were saying, "I don't like this," that's one thing. Saying, "This isn't a Mass Effect game because it doesn't cater to me," is stupid. Being entitled to your opinion doesn't make you entitled to be an ass. 

[Rannik]

TL;DR: Dragon Age Inquisition, in space.

 

Let's hope is not real... 

 

Edit: As far as the whole new galaxy thing goes, I'd definitely prefer a canon ending or even a soft-reboot over throwing everything out the window.

 

The more I know about the game, the less it sounds like Mass Effect to me, it hurts to see one of my favourites (if not my favourite, because it kinda was Revelation Space made videogame) sci-fi franchise turn into something else... but I guess they don't really have a choice if they want to please the muh decisions crowd. 

[The Arbiter]

TL;DR: Dragon Age Inquisition, in space.

 

Let's hope is not real... 

 

Edit: As far as the whole new galaxy thing goes, I'd definitely prefer a canon ending or even a soft-reboot over throwing everything out the window.

 

The more I know about the game, the less it sounds like Mass Effect to me, it hurts to see one of my favourites (if not my favourite, because it kinda was Revelation Space made videogame) sci-fi franchise turn into something else... but I guess they don't really have a choice if they want to please the muh decisions crowd. 

we are on the same boat, a Restart / Reboot or heck even going down the Deus Ex decision in Canonizing something just to fix things is way better in my humble opinion than this new train wreck we are heading... but you and I know that's not happening... it's been 3 years.

 

3,285 days                                       1,095 days
78,840 hours                                    26,280 hours

4,730,400 minutes                           1,576,800 minutes

17,029,440,000 seconds                  5,676,480,000 seconds

 

too little too late

[katamuro]

we are on the same boat, a Restart / Reboot or heck even going down the Deus Ex decision in Canonizing something just to fix things is way better in my humble opinion than this new train wreck we are heading... but you and I know that's not happening... it's been 3 years.

 

3,285 days

78,840 hours

4,730,400 minutes

17,029,440,000 seconds

 

too little too late

 

I have just been thinking that all this could have been handled way better. Personally I like that games have alternate endings but I also think that in such games the developers and writers need to have one ending that is canon. 

[The Elder King]

We knew for a while that MEN would have a similar approach to DAI in regards of the open world and exploration. The into elemental in the leak that seems to be originated from DAI is the Strike missions (and that's only in theory). The supposed main plot being exploration based isn't at all based on DAI, since the latter's plot is the Classic Ancient evil threat plot.
I mean, I do have concerns on Bioware finding a better balance between the open world-exploration and the story (with hopefully some Classic side-quests), but that's based on what we already knew about the game.

[Legenlorn]

DAI was suppose to have more features but they got cut due to last gen console problem. The info in the leak points to features very similar to those cut from DAI. And we know that what the DA team worked out while working with the FB engine was sent ober to the ME team.

[The Elder King]

DAI was suppose to have more features but they got cut due to last gen console problem. The info in the leak points to features very similar to those cut from DAI. And we know that what the DA team worked out while working with the FB engine was sent ober to the ME team.

The only cut feature i fan think of based on the leak is the Keep system (the one shown at PAX). Which was a really interesting.
But even then, I wouldn't say they're trying to copy DAI, but that they're Simply following thief model about an open world game. Which I really hope it's an improved one in regards of DAI.

[Legenlorn]

The only cut feature i fan think of based on the leak is the Keep system (the one shown at PAX). Which was a really interesting.
But even then, I wouldn't say they're trying to copy DAI, but that they're Simply following thief model about an open world game. Which I really hope it's an improved one in regards of DAI.

I did not want to imply that they copied anything. Just that they the keep system that could not be used for DAI gave the possibility for the colonies system described in the leak. Also, in DA the keeps were suppose to be attacked from time to time which seems also to be the case for the strike team operations in MEN.

[Sion1138]

If they were saying, "I don't like this," that's one thing. Saying, "This isn't a Mass Effect game because it doesn't cater to me," is stupid. Being entitled to your opinion doesn't make you entitled to be an ass. 

 

That's a fairly arbitrary line to draw.

[ZoliCs]

That's a fairly arbitrary line to draw.

Not really. They are not far off from saying things like "ME2 is not Mass Effect because it doesn't have a Mako". Just as unreasonable and selfcentered.

[Sion1138]

Not really. They are not far off from saying things like "ME2 is not Mass Effect because it doesn't have a Mako". Just as unreasonable and selfcentered.

 

Still an opinion that you ought not to get worked up about.

 

It's unreasonable but apparently, that person thought the Mako an integral component to the identity of Mass Effect. Certainly they are within their rights to think that.

 

And it doesn't in any way imply that they deem their opinions 'more important' than the author's. How could they possibly think that?

 

Tell them you disagree, if you need to. It's a discussion after all.

[ZoliCs]

Stop with your fanboyism

Some are pissed at this soft reboot and they have every right to be its basically throwing the whole Trilogy out of the window

People could stop with the irrational hating as well.

 

New setting =/= throwing the trilogy out of the window.

Homogenizing choices, canonizing ending in order to appease minor demands like staying in the Milky Way without any reason = throwing the trilogy out of the window.

 

I never wanted or expected my choices from the Trilogy mattering in some big way in ME4 but at least it should take place in the same galaxy and "feel" like the Mass Effect we know and love

 

Why should it stay in the Milky Way? Was ME3 not a Mass Effect because they didn't stay in the Terminus Systems?

Also how do you know ME:N won't feel like the Mass Effect you know and love?

[Balkankerverkoper]

Why should it stay in the Milky Way? Was ME3 not a Mass Effect because they didn't stay in the Terminus Systems?

Also how do you know ME:N won't feel like the Mass Effect you know and love?

 

Because it would be a waste just leaving a galaxy which has so much more potenital en much more left to explore. You do know how large the Milky Way is right?

[ZoliCs]

Because it would be a waste just leaving a galaxy which has so much more potenital en much more left to explore. You do know how large the Milky Way is right?

What difference does it make if Planet X is in Andromeda or the Milky Way?

[Balkankerverkoper]

Think of it this way:

JK Rowling starts writing a series of books about a witch/wizard who lives in a remote area. No Hogwart's, no Ministry of Magic, no Quidditch matches, no contact with Harry Potter's wizarding world.

It would not make Harry's journey and defeat of Voldemort any less meaningful.

Any mention of Harry and his friends, Hogwart's, etc., would only serve to bring back references to that setting that might somehow diminish the new protagonist due to the reader's associations. People were very invested in Harry's story, and Rowling would do well to avoid references so as to give the new character and setting a chance to capture the reader's imagination, just as Harry did.

 

That's practically starting a new franchise, which is not the case here, if I am correct. You couldn't call it Harry Potter could you?

[CronoDragoon]

That's practically starting a new franchise, which is not the case here, if I am correct. You couldn't call it Harry Potter could you?

This is veering into semantics. Are people really just complaining about it being called Mass Effect? I doubt it; they are complaining that the actual game being developed doesn't have the setting/content they want. Accordingly what they call it is sort of irrelevant.

For example, if this coming game was just called Pathfinder, is everyone suddenly cool with moving to Andromeda and leaving the Milky Way? Or would the main complaint still be the "franchise" leaving the Milky Way with no coming "Mass Effect" game set in the Milky Way?