Yeah you've also got Turians making thanix cannon based on sovereign. It's hardly a stretch to suggest the council working on a secret contingency plan in event sovereign didn't turn out to be the end of the story.
Exdcept when the war started the Council was totally divided with each one looking after their own borders first. HUmanity wa left twisting in the wind
And no one even considered talking to the krogan before Victus insisted on it.
How much use do you think a "dead" alien drive core would be?
A drive core is a piece of technology like any other. Hook it up to electricity and it will run. I think you're vastly overthinking this.
Scylla's tweet shows the supermassive black hole at the core of the Milky Way, so maybe that's the case? Additionally with a Reaper IFF the Omega-4 Relay grants easy (lol) access to the galactic core.
I'd be more willing to believe and accept a journey to the galactic core than Andromeda.
At least we know there's at least one relay that goes there.
Is there a reason the Council couldn't repurpose an existing dreadnaught? Certainly making additions and modifications would save a lot of time than building an Ark from the ground-up. Of course if that one concept art really does depict the Ark then it's certainly nothing like a dreadnaught.
Oh but they did:
Reaper power sources seem to violate known physical laws. Reapers usually destroy fuel infrastructure rather than attempting to capture it intact, indicating that Reapers do not require organic species' energy supplies. Consequently, the Reapers attack without regard for maintaining supply lines behind them, except to move husks from one planet to another. Unlike Citadel ships, Reapers do not appear to discharge static buildup from their drive cores.
I'll rephrase: This cycle doesn't have the technology to survive the journey. And it's highly unlikely the Reapers can keep their passengers alive either.
Yes, the Rapers themselves (potentially) have the ability to make it. We don't know how much fuel they require, or how they survive without discharging their cores. However, they do still build up heat, as the codex itself points out they are seen wreathed in lightning
Dreadnoughts are the largest combat vessels built by Council species. They're about one kilometre long. By comparison, the Reaper capital ships are 2km.
As of 2183, the turians had 37 dreadnoughts, the asari had 21, the salarians had 16, and the Alliance had 6 with another under construction. As of 2185, the dreadnought count was 39 turian, 20 asari, 16 salarian, and 8 human. By 2186, humans construct a ninth dreadnought, and the volus have built a single dreadnought of their own.
Since the Alliance only had one dreadnought under construction in 2183, but two more in 2185, they must have finished an entire *new* ship in the space of two years. The Turians built two more also.
In 2186 the Alliance had three more dreadnoughts than in 2183.
As for Normandy-class frigates, the Alliance had managed to construct a second one by 2185, SSV Ain Jalut. It was mentioned in ME2.
There's one glaring fact you are missing here. It's much easier to build something after you have a functional and working blueprint. You can be much more efficient and more elegant in its design. An "Ark" has never been built before and presumably it would be larger than any dreadnought. We are talking about a project on the scale of the Crucible, and even that was an unusual case as Admiral Hackett stated multiple times that it should have taken much longer if not for how simplistic the designs for it were (it also had a blueprint already).
Even the Crucible had the full backing of the entire galaxy's best and brightest building it making its construction much faster. Again, you fail to provide any evidence of who could have the resources to make such a ship. The Council would not do it for a variety of reasons because it would be too costly and the turians, salarians, asari, and humans would never back such a project without reason. As has already been established, the Council, and the galaxy at large (besides Cerberus), are blind to the threat of the reapers.
I think you're vastly overthinking this.
Is there a reason the Council couldn't repurpose an existing dreadnaught? Certainly making additions and modifications would save a lot of time than building an Ark from the ground-up. Of course if that one concept art really does depict the Ark then it's certainly nothing like a dreadnaught.
During the Reaper war, they'd need every warship they could get. And they only have a few dreadnoughts compared to their other warships.
I know our cycle doesn't have anything even close to Reaper-level technology, but now all of a sudden we will?
A funny thought occurred to me.
If they use Sovereign's core and keep it shielded to prevent indoctrination or taking control of the ship, what if Sovereign serves as the shackled AI for the next game?
During the Reaper war, they'd need every warship they could get.
This would be before the Reaper War, though.
If push comes to shove the Ark doesn't even have to be that big. With 1200 individuals they can repopulate all the races from the Milky Way.
Exdcept when the war started the Council was totally divided with each one looking after their own borders first. HUmanity wa left twisting in the wind
And no one even considered talking to the krogan before Victus insisted on it.
A funny thought occurred to me.
If they use Sovereign's core and keep it shielded to prevent indoctrination or taking control of the ship, what if Sovereign serves as the shackled AI for the next game?
WTB Sovereign GPS.
Don't really see how. Can you point out how it is a big assumption?
Well for starters, you are dealing with the assumption of absolutes. It is either this way or that way, when the reality of the situation is you don't know anything more or less than anyone else on this forum, save for some developers.
Second it is assumed something will be retocnned to fit the story. Well, for one, game-lore should never be concrete because it leads to discussions such as this entire thread; basically us nerds arguing over the minute details of a fantastical setting. Marrying ourselves to lore and what is said to be true, is not always the truth. For example, how the Prothean's were handled thus far has been great, because it showcased how the study of history is based not always on the evidence given to us, but the assumptions of the evidence at face and contextual value, and how it can always be wrong, and usually is.
Lastly, we know it's taking place some time after the events of Mass Effect 3, we don't know when. The assumption is the move to another galaxy will eliminate the need to talk about the Milky Way, or that it was done during the war as a contingency plan. That is pure speculation,w hich has been passed on as probable due to this whole conversation thus far, despite being an assumption of the details.
So yeah, seems like a big assumption to me on what it all entails.
If push comes to shove the Ark doesn't even have to be that big. With 1200 individuals they can repopulate all the races from the Milky Way.
Ever since mentioning that game, I can't stop seeing the similarities between Star Ocean: The Last Hope's premise and Mass Effect: Next's premise.
Even the opening trailer for the former can fit for the latter, just replace the World War 3 part with Sovereign's offensive/the Reaper War and the creating the SRF with creating the ARKCON.
I have to admit, I could get behind this new Mass Effect game if I look at it through the lens of it Bioware's attempt at a Star Ocean game.
The Council would not do it for a variety of reasons because it would be too costly and the turians, salarians, asari, and humans would never back such a project without reason. As has already been established, the Council, and the galaxy at large (besides Cerberus), are blind to the threat of the reapers.
I'm going to stop engaging with you, because to be honest the way you say stuff like this with nothing to back it up is really aggravating.
Just wait to see what Bioware do, and don't be surprised if we end up heading to Andromeda on an ark ship built in secret before the end of ME3.
Trying to liberate an already fallen system from a superior enemy who is already advancing on other worlds would have been suicidal. Don't see how that relates to cooperatively working on a project before doomsday arrives on your doorstep.
Yeah, but they weren't even helping each other. Everyone was looking out for themselves. Refusing to share resources until the Cerberus coup.
I'm going to stop engaging with you, because to be honest the way you say stuff like this with nothing to back it up is really aggravating.
Just wait to see what Bioware do, and don't be surprised if we end up heading to Andromeda on an ark ship built in secret before the end of ME3.
Except, I've indicated several times that my source to back up my assertions are the games, themselves... Whereas your "argument" is based on rumor and speculation, neither of which have any support. Just admit that the idea of this "Ark theory" in the capacity you have described it is highly unlikely and unreasonable given what was actually happening in the game. I'm not saying it's not possible at all (albeit very unlikely), but surely BioWare will have a better way of explaining this new ship construction if it is, in fact, true.
I have to admit, I could get behind this new Mass Effect game if I look at it through the lens of it Bioware's attempt at a Star Ocean game.
Is that including the staff required to keep the ship operational?
Not techincally but I rounded up, anyway long lived races like the Asari or Krogan could do that. Or the Geth.
Personally I doubt the geth or quarians will be in the next ME game. If the ship leaves after Rannoch how can you account for choice, and if it's before Rannoch how can you possibly get both of them on board with the idea, let alone contact the geth for it?
Having the Andromeda exploration happen after the events of ME3, for whatever reason, would silence a good number of my grievances with the idea.
As long as they address the endings, like why people who chose Synthesis wouldn't have the circuits or why the Reapers didn't tag along.
And if they have it so some Geth survived Destroy, though this more for personal reasons than the others. I don't want to not have my favorite race along.
Yeah, but they weren't even helping each other. Everyone was looking out for themselves. Refusing to share resources until the Cerberus coup.
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