Personally I doubt the geth or quarians will be in the next ME game. If the ship leaves after Rannoch how can you account for choice, and if it's before Rannoch how can you possibly get both of them on board with the idea, let alone contact the geth for it?
There are some Quarians and Geth who are fine with being with each other, as seen in the MP since it is canon.
Not techincally but I rounded up, anyway long lived races like the Asari or Krogan could do that. Or the Geth.
Doubt the council will entrust the preservation of the galaxy to AIs who have willingly sided with the killing machines everyone's running away from.
You're going to need a good number of Asari and Krogan, and plan for countless other engineering, maintenance, and health issues that could arise.
They are willing to entrust the Crucible to both Geth and Rachni, both of whom have had not very good track records. Desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose.
There are some Quarians and Geth who are fine with being with each other, as seen in the MP since it is canon.
Not before Rannoch. The geth are all Reaper-controlled.
Personally I doubt the geth or quarians will be in the next ME game. If the ship leaves after Rannoch how can you account for choice, and if it's before Rannoch how can you possibly get both of them on board with the idea, let alone contact the geth for it?
There were Quarian exiles and such. I'm pretty sure there were some on Ilum in ME2 for example. As for the Geth, I don't know, but I hope they figure something out because they are awesome. Like the Geth Prime Platoon for example.
Not before Rannoch. The geth are all Reaper-controlled.
Not necessarily. We know the Geth can disconnect themselves from the Consensus. The Heretics did that in ME1 and even the Heretics on the Heretic Station did that from other Heretics. Same can happen, but it is the Geth who disconnect from the Heretics this time.
Having the Andromeda exploration happen after the events of ME3, for whatever reason, would silence a good number of my grievances with the idea.
Well I'm very much a fan of them departing beforehand. I suppose you could have them depart after if you claimed they were individuals fleeing shepalyst's rule, individuals who had reversed their synthesis process and felt the urge to escape that blight, or pure pioneers in destroy etc.
With terminology like that, I wonder what ending you supported in ME3.
With terminology like that, I wonder what ending you supported in ME3.
Quite mild terminology in my book, mainly put in because I was imagining the stance of a group of pioneers compelled to undo them and flee to andromeda.
It'd be easier if regardless of ending, they were doing it for the same reason.
It'd be easier if regardless of ending, they were doing it for the same reason.
They are willing to entrust the Crucible to both Geth and Rachni, both of whom have had not very good track records. Desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose.
Personally I doubt the geth or quarians will be in the next ME game. If the ship leaves after Rannoch how can you account for choice, and if it's before Rannoch how can you possibly get both of them on board with the idea, let alone contact the geth for it?
That would be fine. We finished their story, one way or another in ME3.
I would like this new galaxy idea more if it was not just a clumsy transplant of all things Mass Effect (or popular with the fanbase) to a new area to avoid the ending. We can leave some things behind, their inclusion would be contrived, and since they already had an exhaustive arc in the original trilogy it's not like the writers would even be doing much with them anyways.
Also as people here are always going on about choice, wouldn't it seem a little odd that ME3 lets you annihilate the Geth or Quarians and then they magically reappear in ME4?
That would be fine. We finished their story, one way or another in ME3.
We finished everyone's story 
Has anyone here actually thought about, what the survey described, we are doing in the andromeda galaxy? It says " to establish a new home for humanity". So why do we have to make a new home for humanity. That would mean that something happened to the milky way. Your ideas?
Reapers?
Bioware will dig their own grave if they choose to restart the whole franschise. Many people fell in love with Mass Effect thanks to the trilogy. To neglect all this..it will not be good for Bioware. The rage on the Mass Effect 3 endings will be nothing compared to the rage if they choose to restart the whole franchise. And if they respect their fans, they will not to this. Personally, I will not buy the next Mass Effect game if this is the case.
I get you, we invested 100's of hours into the world, lore and characters of 1-3 and 3 kind of ended on a cliffhanger without closure for Shep and friends. That said a reboot was likely regardless - the story demanded it by ending the reaper threat, there was no ending to 3 that didn't leave a massive mark on the milky way. Even assuming you get the ideal ending of Shep and co. surviving, what's the likelihood they'd still be going on romps through the galaxy instead of rebuilding their homes? If a reboot is necessary anyways, then an emergency escape to another galaxy seems pretty exciting - we can meet new characters, new locations, etc. and get that same feeling everybody got with Mass Effect 1 again. I think letting the devs be creative is important here, though I do think without closure that anything new will still live in the shadow of what came previously at least for that initial "break-in".
(btw, first time posting here since 2011, feels good)
Dreadnoughts are the largest combat vessels built by Council species. They're about one kilometre long. By comparison, the Reaper capital ships are 2km.
As of 2183, the turians had 37 dreadnoughts, the asari had 21, the salarians had 16, and the Alliance had 6 with another under construction. As of 2185, the dreadnought count was 39 turian, 20 asari, 16 salarian, and 8 human. By 2186, humans construct a ninth dreadnought, and the volus have built a single dreadnought of their own.
Since the Alliance only had one dreadnought under construction in 2183, but two more in 2185, they must have finished an entire *new* ship in the space of two years. The Turians built two more also.
In 2186 the Alliance had three more dreadnoughts than in 2183.
As for Normandy-class frigates, the Alliance had managed to construct a second one by 2185, SSV Ain Jalut. It was mentioned in ME2.
I like this post because it's full of actual numbers and stuff.
I get you, we invested 100's of hours into the world, lore and characters of 1-3 and 3 kind of ended on a cliffhanger without closure for Shep and friends. That said a reboot was likely regardless - the story demanded it by ending the reaper threat, there was no ending to 3 that didn't leave a massive mark on the milky way. Even assuming you get the ideal ending of Shep and co. surviving, what's the likelihood they'd still be going on romps through the galaxy instead of rebuilding their homes? If a reboot is necessary anyways, then an emergency escape to another galaxy seems pretty exciting - we can meet new characters, new locations, etc. and get that same feeling everybody got with Mass Effect 1 again. I think letting the devs be creative is important here, though I do think without closure that anything new will still live in the shadow of what came previously at least for that initial "break-in".
(btw, first time posting here since 2011, feels good)
A cliffhanger? It may not have spelled out the individual fates of Shepard's friends, but I'd hardly call it a cliffhanger.
Reasonable thought, but the Crucible ultimately wasn't a Council project and this ark will be scrutinized differently based on the mission parameters. Especially if this ark planning started around the time Sovereign attacked in ME1.
As part of the Citadel Council, The Systems Alliance will be involved. Thus they can help vouch for the other races.
So... This just hit me. What if the reason we move to the other galaxy is in fact not because we want to but because we are forced to. And by that I mean not because of exploration and expansion reasons but because something from that galaxy atacked us. Think about it. The andromeda galaxy was not being erased every 50 000 years, so something there could prosper for a long time. Maybe the reapers even went there but were pushed back. Now that something knows where the reapers came from and wants to expand and that is the thing humanity needs to get the needed tech for defeating.
How does that sound?
We have no idea if the Andromeda galaxy was harvested or not, though evidence implies it was since the Reapers have a mandate to preserve all life and can make the trip.
If push comes to shove the Ark doesn't even have to be that big. With 1200 individuals they can repopulate all the races from the Milky Way.
Actually - for all we know, they already have colony ships that would not require much in the way of retrofitting to convert them to much longer distance ark ships. The major species have been doing colonization for awhile now.
Also - for all we know, existing dreadnoughts may have been designed with the capacity to carry thousands of additional personnel, perhaps in statis pods - in cargo bays, crew quarters, whatever. Again, some retrofitting for longer distances, and an ark ship is born.
Well the Collector Ship could house tens of thousands, if not hundred-thousands, of people.
I belive the exact phrase was that it could contain every human colonist in the Terminus Systems and still have room left for Earth.
Also as people here are always going on about choice, wouldn't it seem a little odd that ME3 lets you annihilate the Geth or Quarians and then they magically reappear in ME4?
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