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[Iakus]

Always with the hyperboles...

Not really.  In essence, that's what it would take in the ME universe to get to Andromeda alive.

[ZoliCs]

Not really.  In essence, that's what it would take in the ME universe to get to Andromeda alive.

Hardly. Even FTL travel to Andromeda is possible. Failing that there's still wormhole or any other stuff the writers can come up with.

[Iakus]

Hardly. Even FTL travel to Andromeda is possible. Failing that there's still wormhole or any other stuff the writers can come up with.

FTL travel will either kill the crew (and likely destroy the ship anyway unless it's a Reaper.  Even then it's problematic) or take millions of years, and good luck finding a power source that'll last that long.

 

A wormhole would be yet another piece of no-foreshadowing space magic meant to solve a problem the writers made for themselves.

[ZoliCs]

FTL travel will either kill the crew (and likely destroy the ship anyway unless it's a Reaper.  Even then it's problematic) or take millions of years, and good luck finding a power source that'll last that long.

 

A wormhole would be yet another piece of no-foreshadowing space magic meant to solve a problem the writers made for themselves.

No it wouldn't, but I won't go into this again. I had enough circular arguments in the last few days as it is.

[Drone223]

FTL travel will either kill the crew (and likely destroy the ship anyway unless it's a Reaper.  Even then it's problematic) or take millions of years, and good luck finding a power source that'll last that long.

 

A wormhole would be yet another piece of no-foreshadowing space magic meant to solve a problem the writers made for themselves.

I've started agreeing with you a lot more lately.

[Arcian]

Dunno what's so important about milkyway.
Is Fallout New Vegas "just as if it was another IP"?

Jimmies Status: Rustled. Fallout 3 is only tangentially a sequel to Fallout 1 and 2 while New Vegas is the legit sequel. If anything, Fallout 3 is "just as if it was another IP".

But to answer your question: North America is the setting of Fallout. Last I checked, Vegas was located in North America.

A more appropriate comparison would be a Fallout game set anywhere but North America. That would mean no vaults, no Brotherhood of Steel, no ghouls, no Super Mutants, no Deathclaws or any other FEV-mutated wildlife like Cazadores.

[von uber]

Part of it yes. It was also in Valinor and Númenor, neither are Middle Earth. And the rest of it was in a part of Middle Earth that was never visited again (since it was destoryed).

 

So all of this bitching of Andormeda is grasping at straws. If ME:N were in a never explored, contained part of the Milky Way would you cry about that? And if it's already a new setting, what does it matter if it's in the Milky Way or Andromeda?

 

Valinor and Numenor were part of Middle Earth. Numenor still is, but underneath the waves.

Your analogy still doesn't work. Part of Middle Earth was destroyed after the downfall, but Tolkein didn't go 'right, sod this, off to somewhere else'. He carried on basing the story in Middle Earth, because the place is central to its story.

[Heimdall]

Jimmies Status: Rustled. Fallout 3 is only tangentially a sequel to Fallout 1 and 2 while New Vegas is the legit sequel. If anything, Fallout 3 is "just as if it was another IP".

But to answer your question: North America is the setting of Fallout. Last I checked, Vegas was located in North America.

A more appropriate comparison would be a Fallout game set anywhere but North America. That would mean no vaults, no Brotherhood of Steel, no ghouls, no Super Mutants, no Deathclaws or any other FEV-mutated wildlife like Cazadores.

Except in this scenario most of the alien species are being brought to Andromeda with us. Even a few Varren could come along. The only thing missing are the factions (Maybe?) which got totally shuffled and decimated in ME3 anyway and the physical locations, which mostly change up every game anyway.

[Iakus]

I've started agreeing with you a lot more lately.

Scary isn't it? 

[ZoliCs]

But to answer your question: North America is the setting of Fallout. Last I checked, Vegas was located in North America.

And Andromeda is located in the Local Group just like the Milky Way

 

Seriously though, this arbitrary line most of you draw at what counts as acceptable change of setting and what not is ridiculous.

[ZoliCs]

Valinor and Numenor were part of Middle Earth. Numenor still is, but underneath the waves.

Your analogy still doesn't work. Part of Middle Earth was destroyed after the downfall, but Tolkein didn't go 'right, sod this, off to somewhere else'. He carried on basing the story in Middle Earth, because the place is central to its story.

Don't post if you don't even know what Middle Earth means. K thx bye.

[Heimdall]

Valinor and Numenor were part of Middle Earth. Numenor still is, but underneath the waves.
Your analogy still doesn't work. Part of Middle Earth was destroyed after the downfall, but Tolkein didn't go 'right, sod this, off to somewhere else'. He carried on basing the story in Middle Earth, because the place is central to its story.

Middle Earth is a continent, not a world.

[Iakus]

And Andromeda is located in the Local Group just like the Milky Way

 

Seriously though, this arbitrary line most of you draw at what counts as acceptable change of setting and what not is ridiculous.

Yeah!  I mean, what's a few million light years?

 

/sarcasm

[ZoliCs]

Yeah!  I mean, what's a few million light years?

 

/sarcasm

In a fictional world where ships can travel 5.5k-11k times the speed of light? Not much.

[von uber]

Don't post if you don't even know what Middle Earth means. K thx bye.

Are you six years old? This seems to be the response of one.

Yes, middle earth applies to the continent (I confess I am guilty of using middle earth as a shorthand for the fictional place Tolkien created), but valinor and numerous were adjacent and separated by an easily passable sea. They in effect form part of the same area, with the same races inhabiting those places and sharing a common history, where the actions in one place affect the other.

It is entirely different to going to another galaxy.

[Torgette]

And Andromeda is located in the Local Group just like the Milky Way

 

Seriously though, this arbitrary line most of you draw at what counts as acceptable change of setting and what not is ridiculous.

 

Yeah, I seriously don't mind visiting another galaxy so long as it feels believable and there's variety (one thing that bothered me about DAI is how there's really only 1 urban area in the whole game and it's extremely tiny and feels depopulated).

[ZoliCs]

It is entirely different to going to another galaxy.

 Like I said, don't treat your arbitrarily drawn line of what is an acceptable change of setting and what is not as a gospel.

[von uber]

Like I said, don't treat your arbitrarily drawn line of what is an acceptable change of setting and what is not as a gospel.

I'm not. You are the one drawing parallels with Tolkien here and how a change of setting for that wouldn't make any difference.

But then I guess lotr is a vastly superior piece of work than me; one with such a greater depth of lore and internal consistency that a change in setting is impossible.

[Heimdall]

I'm not. You are the one drawing parallels with Tolkien here and how a change of setting for that wouldn't make any difference.

But then I guess lotr is a vastly superior piece of work than me; one with such a greater depth of lore and internal consistency that a change in setting is impossible.

The comparison is made less viable by the lack of variables in lotr.

Tolkein frankly never had the problems that face the ME writers.

[ZoliCs]

I'm not. 

Yeah, right. Sure doesn't look like it:

 

It is entirely different to going to another galaxy.

 

 

You are the one drawing parallels with Tolkien here and how a change of setting for that wouldn't make any difference.

I didn't start it, if you would bother to check up on it you'd see that I was replying to someone who did...

Sorry that I try to defend my point of view by disproving foolish notions 

[ZoliCs]

Tolkein frankly never had the problems that face the ME writers.

Indeed. Not to mention LotR and the other books set in the same fantasy world took decades to finish and it wasn't even interactive.

[Arl Raylen]

I wonder how they will explain Andromeda. The technology in the ME Universe is downright primitive compared to a lot Sci Fi...Reapers represented sort of the pinnacle of technology as they understood it and they still never bothered to go reap other galaxies.

 

The ME Universe is sort of similar to Alastair Reynolds revelation space series, and the only races to cross galaxies in that story were fairly god-like.

[Arcian]

In a fictional world where ships can travel 5.5k-11k times the speed of light? Not much.

At 5.5k-11k times the speed of light travelling a distance of a couple of millions of light years will take several centuries of uninterrupted FTL flight. "Not much" betrays your lack of knowledge on the matter.

[Iakus]

In a fictional world where ships can travel 5.5k-11k times the speed of light? Not much.

 

Sure.

 

Except Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away.

[Drone223]

Sure.

Except Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away.

Don't forget not being able to discharge the static build up in the ship and being in FTL non-stop would begin to take a toll on the drive core even for one or two centuries.