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[AresKeith]

Why would the Catalyst mention it?

"Oh, and yeah, we do this in Andromeda and Triangulum too, so neener-neener."

 

Well he is a brat lol

 

Let me ask one thing: Do you respect the reapers? Because I do. I want to destroy them, but don't see them as mere janitors. After all, they are computers... and if anything, that means they are process oriented and algorithmic, not just task based. An AI would always be mindful of underlying logic, it would simply "think", and not just "do", and improve upon tasks given to them or question whether the task is even worth doing. And they would be "curious" about new data that improves these tasks further.

 

I think they just churn out the Harvests simply because no other opportunity has changed the parameters yet. But the thing is, opportunity would abound in the unknown (like another galaxy). They would seek that, if they could. They want to change the parameters..

 

Nope I don't respect the reapers, I honestly thought the entire Reaper plot-line was just a mess 

 

Also my ME3 is kinda rusty, but didn't the Starchild/Reapers originally start the Crucible or atleast knew what it was?

[themikefest]

Apparently, one running theory is that the Reapers are capable of traveling to Andromeda, yet don't because they have a headache and aren't in the mood.

Or they all sit around in darkspace smoking cigars and playing cards discussing about how well the previous harvest went. 

[wright1978]

Why would the Catalyst mention it?"Oh, and yeah, we do this in Andromeda and Triangulum too, so neener-neener." There isn't a regular supply, though.Assuming the only reason they exist is to "rape, torture, kill and indoctrinate" instead of follow a mandate about exerting order over the chaos of organic evolution, why wait 50k years for one galaxy to respawn when you can bounce between three galaxies (and their little cousins and nephews for kicks and giggles) every 10-15k? Even that seems lazy.

They like really long 50k year lie ins in bed in dark space.

[AresKeith]

It knew about the Crucible, but didn't start it... (doesn't care to tell you who did either.. according to the Catalyst, it doesn't matter because you don't know them anyways lol).

 

When he said that I started to think it was his creators that did it.

 

Didn't that dialogue disappear after the Leviathan DLC came out too?

[AresKeith]

No, that's all still there. He said that about his own creators too, but the DLC adjusted it, yeah. The Crucible is another story... and he doesn't attribute it to either himself or Leviathan.

 

edit: Excuse me for saying "he" and "his". I'm lazy.

 

That dialogue is so weird, because from what I think about it the Crucible's main function seems to be Synthesis (since it's only available when it's complete and undamaged)

 

So either the Starchild or the Leviathan's (or both) has something to do with it 

[Heimdall]

It's said that it was added to countless times by different cycles... someone could've come up with synthesis, but hit a brick wall. Control and Destruction seem like it'd be the first and main uses. When people are fighting giant evil robots, they usually go for control and destruction. I imagine some hippy discovered the plans and added synthesis...

Control maybe, but Destroy only happens if you damage the Crucible. That couldn't have been part of the original design.

[AresKeith]

It's said that it was added to countless times by different cycles... some normal species could've come up with synthesis, but hit a brick wall (while Shepard's cycle completes it). Control and Destruction seem like they'd be the first and main uses. When people are fighting giant evil robots, they usually go for control or destruction. I imagine some hippy discovered the plans and added synthesis...

 

I think Control might have been an add-on by the countless cycles, because Synthesis was their main goal right? And the Crucible just happens to be the component to finally pull it off for them

[AresKeith]

You could be right.. but I'm not sure why it would lie about who the creator was.

 

 

I do like this idea though of Destroy being some later hack. This gives even more credit to organic ingenuity.

 

Technically he isn't lying about it, just not telling you lol

[themikefest]

That dialogue is so weird, because from what I think about it the Crucible's main function seems to be Synthesis (since it's only available when it's complete and undamaged)

 

So either the Starchild or the Leviathan's (or both) has something to do with it 

 

It's said that it was added to countless times by different cycles... some normal species could've come up with synthesis, but hit a brick wall (while Shepard's cycle completes it). Control and Destruction seem like they'd be the first and main uses. When people are fighting giant evil robots, they usually go for control or destruction. I imagine some hippy discovered the plans and added synthesis...

 

Control maybe, but Destroy only happens if you damage the Crucible. That couldn't have been part of the original design.

 

This is what I posted about the Crucible and possibly how each option was added

[Son of Shepherd]

Can you guys stop with these ridiculous hyperboles. Intergalactic travel is possible in the ME lore. Is colonizing another planet possible in GoT or Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings? **** no.

 

In Star Wars colonizing other planets is possible. So ok then, it would be like a new Star Wars not set in a galaxy far, far away. 

 

We're talking about the ramifications of a fictional world being irrevocably changed, not whether travelling outside the locations is possible. 

[pdusen]

Because our cycle doesn't have technology capable of intergalactic travel but does have technology capable of interstellar travel. 

 

Stop pretending you know more than you do.

[von uber]

The options available are part of the citadel, not the crucible. The crucible is just a power source.

 

Which raises a billion other questions, no wonder (it seems) we are off to Andromeda.

[Torgette]

The options available are part of the citadel, not the crucible. The crucible is just a power source.

 

Which raises a billion other questions, no wonder (it seems) we are off to Andromeda.

 

Yep, the "switches" have nothing to do with the Crucible - they were always part of the Citadel, so maybe the Keepers made them, or somebody just got really lazy with the writing

[themikefest]

The options available are part of the citadel, not the crucible. The crucible is just a power source.

 

Which raises a billion other questions, no wonder (it seems) we are off to Andromeda.

I'm sure you may remember this thread about where Shepard is in relation to the Citadel and crucible.

 

This post gives a detailed look at the crucible before docking with the Citadel

[Torgette]

I'm sure you may remember this thread about where Shepard is in relation to the Citadel and crucible.

This post gives a detailed look at the crucible before docking with the Citadel

Thanks for the links, hadn't seen these before

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Stop pretending you know more than you do.

No. I'm allowed to state what the games tell us. 

[Heimdall]

No. I'm allowed to state what the games tell us.

Not after it's been repeatedly explained and proven to you that you're wrong about that.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Not after it's been repeatedly explained and proven to you that you're wrong about that.

It has yet to be explained or proven wrong by facts. At best, it is battling assertions and assumptions with assertions and assumptions. 

But for the sake of sanity, let's not try this again expecting different results.

[Heimdall]

It has yet to be explained or proven wrong by facts. At best, it is battling assertions and assumptions with assertions and assumptions. 
But for the sake of sanity, let's not try this again expecting different results.

I've already shown you the precedent for such technology in previous exchanges, all within the lore. Your refusal to accept that doesn't refute it.

I will not humor your blockheaded stubbornness any further

[marcelo caldas]

BW is ditching Milk Way, but I bet we'll hear about Cerberus abord the pathfinding flotila!!!