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[Vortex13]

I am willing to accept a transition to Andromeda, but I really, really, really, really, really (you get the idea) hope that the narrative is not going to have humanity front and center again, and please, for the love of God, no Cerberus.

 

 

I would like to see the story explore the marooned nature of the Milky Way refugees, to delve into how we all have to work together. I want to see the narrative deal with the implications of our colonization of Andromeda, not just in how different the new galaxy is, but also explore the ramifications of what could be considered an imperialist expansion or invasion of the natives' territory. I would like to see the plot shine all the factions involved in the title in a morally ambiguous light; I don't want to see humanity and the rest of the refugees portrayed as white knights bravely beating back the evil aliens that inhabit Andromeda. I would like to see species like the Keht have more depth than a cheap knock off of the Batarians, or another 'Evil, jerk hole race'; maybe show how its the refugees' rapid colonization that is pushing them to attack us, as we take their resources and worlds. 

[LinksOcarina]

They did, but the same happened with DAI. They showed off the Human Inquisitor when the game was going to be a human-only protagonist. So likewise what we see now may not be the end result. 

 

Only reason more races were added was due to a time extension for development, which in turn lead to some game rewrites and the like.

 

Truth be told, I honestly doubt that we will see playable races in this one, mainly because there are too many races to worry about with their own macro-politics to consider. 

[Heimdall]

Only reason more races were added was due to a time extension for development, which in turn lead to some game rewrites and the like.

Truth be told, I honestly doubt that we will see playable races in this one, mainly because there are too many races to worry about with their own macro-politics to consider.

If it did happen I imagine it would be limited to human/asari/turian. That could be manageable. Though I doubt it too.

[LinksOcarina]

If it did happen I imagine it would be limited to human/asari/turian. That could be manageable. Though I doubt it too.

 

Salarian as well.

 

Probably all the council races in the end, meaning Krogan, Quarian, and the like will be outside of it. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Salarian as well.

 

Probably all the council races in the end, meaning Krogan, Quarian, and the like will be outside of it. 

Yeah, I always pictured it as: 

 

Asari: Female only(monogendered race)

Human: Male and Female

Salarian: Male only(Females stay on homeworld) 

Turian: Male and Female

 

So a total of 6 different bodies, less than DAI. 

[Majin Paul]

Honestly, if they were to have Mass Effect 4 be a reboot or use a different galaxy just as a way to ignore the first three games, my opinion of Bioware would simply  drop to the lowest level possible and I'd probably not even get the game. 

[Heimdall]

Salarian as well.

Probably all the council races in the end, meaning Krogan, Quarian, and the like will be outside of it.

My only problem with the Salarians is that, where a Turian could use the same voice clip with some sort of filter, Salarians have a distinctive fast talking speech pattern that I'm not sure could be replicated in the same way.

[Heimdall]

Yeah, I always pictured it as:

Asari: Female only(monogendered race)
Human: Male and Female
Salarian: Male only(Females stay on homeworld)
Turian: Male and Female

So a total of 6 different bodies, less than DAI.

5 bodies really, since Asari can share everything with human females.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

5 bodies really, since Asari can share everything with human females.

That's true, unless they want the asari to have slightly different bodies now. Like how Liara in ME3 seemed to have scales or something similar in appearance. 

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[Hanako Ikezawa]

My only problem with the Salarians is that, where a Turian could use the same voice clip with some sort of filter, Salarians have a distinctive fast talking speech pattern that I'm not sure could be replicated in the same way.

All they would have to do is play it at a faster rate, like 110-120% normal speech. I'm almost certain that's what they did in past games. 

[Heimdall]

That's true, unless they want the asari to have slightly different bodies now. Like how Liara in ME3 seemed to have scales or something similar in appearance.

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Well that's a matter of the skin, not body model. They could still share all armor models and animations in cutscenes.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well that's a matter of the skin, not body model. They could still share all armor models and animations in cutscenes.

Ah, okay. I get what you mean now. 

Yeah, the Asari could use the exact same animation skeleton and armor models as the human female. 

[Heimdall]

All they would have to do is play it at a faster rate, like 110-120% normal speech. I'm almost certain that's what they did in past games.

Maybe, if so then that would be doable. Thankfully, unlike DA, those four species are relatively the same size so making sure things match up in cutscenes would be less of a problem.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Maybe, if so then that would be doable. Thankfully, unlike DA, those four species are relatively the same size so making sure things match up in cutscenes would be less of a problem.

Yeah. Asari and Humans are the same height, there are Turians who are human height, like Nihlus and Nyreen, and Salarians only seen tall because of their antennae-like protrusions which can be off-camera if the need to keep the camera at the same height. 

[ElitePinecone]

That might not be as big of an issue for the colonists if the ship departs during the Reaper War. The colonists might have already lost most their immediate family and friends in the war. There might not be much left to miss. 

 

Well yeah, it's not much of an issue at all for them, because the ark would only be leaving if somebody thought the galaxy had a very real possibility of losing the war. 

 

But if they do somehow reestablish contact with the Milky Way and find out that it's safe to return, I don't necessarily think it would be hugely appealing to try. Cryosleep is all well and good but history would advance by centuries by the time they got back.

[Shechinah]

(to ElitePinecone) That would be darkly humorous:

 

The Ark Crew: "The war's over? We can go home!"

*Centuries later*

The Ark Crew: "Hey guys, we're bac-"

*New war has broken out*

The Ark Crew: "*sigh* Okay, back into the ship, everyone.. Maybe we'll catch peace time next time."

[Kabooooom]

Well, a fairly big impediment to regular contact between the Milky Way and Andromeda is the centuries of travel required to traverse the distance. If we're using regular drives, a round trip would take something like 1100 years.

It's not exactly a one-way trip, but it would make going back and forth constantly a pretty impractical thing - if only because the other side would've changed significantly by the time you got there. Even using cryosleep, a trip to Andromeda and back again could mean everyone you've ever known is dead and centuries of galactic history has passed.

Well, regular indirect contact could be made via QEC's. I wonder if that is how they will tie in communication with the milky way to the colonists? It would allow exposition of a post-choice Milky Way without the complicated issues of actually incorporating a plot or setting into it. They could just have a contactee report the outcome of synthesis, control, destroy and how the galaxy is rebuilding. Maybe even mention other choices Shep made too like the genophage.

[Heimdall]

Well, regular indirect contact could be made via QEC's. I wonder if that is how they will tie in communication with the milky way to the colonists? It would allow exposition of a post-choice Milky Way without the complicated issues of actually incorporating a plot or setting into it. They could just have a contactee report the outcome of synthesis, control, destroy and how the galaxy is rebuilding. Maybe even mention other choices Shep made too like the genophage.

Could also be used to edge in a cameo of characters from the trilogy, probably Liara, maybe Grunt.

[ElitePinecone]

Could also be used to edge in a cameo of characters from the trilogy, probably Liara, maybe Grunt.

 

Couldn't Grunt be dead though? Even Liara could be dead if she was a squadmate during a low-EMS ending. 

 

They could do it that way, but I reckon it'd be a random new character if they wanted to go the QEC route. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Couldn't Grunt be dead though? Even Liara could be dead if she was a squadmate during a low-EMS ending. 

 

They could do it that way, but I reckon it'd be a random new character if they wanted to go the QEC route. 

Chances are since it is a small cameo they would have it be Grunt, Liara, or Wrex if they are alive and a replacement character if they are not. Like how they did it in ME3. 

[ElitePinecone]

Chances are since it is a small cameo they would have it be Grunt, Liara, or Wrex if they are alive and a replacement character if they are not. Like how they did it in ME3. 

 

I guess it depends on how big the cameo is, yes. 

 

DAI had small cameos from old characters if they were alive, but that was often just a single conversation. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I guess it depends on how big the cameo is, yes. 

 

DAI had small cameos from old characters if they were alive, but that was often just a single conversation. 

If they do some cameos, I agree that it will be likely very small and short.  They probably don't want too much focus taken away from the new characters.

[Heimdall]

If they do some cameos, I agree that it will be likely very small and short. They probably don't want too much focus taken away from the new characters.

Probably, this would literally just be a status checkup on the Milky Way Galaxy. Possibly even optional.

[Epyon5757]

I don't understand the hate for a new galaxy.  I mean, Shepard et. al. just destroyed the most serious existential threat imaginable in the Milky Way.  It doesn't make much sense to go the prequel route (before the Reaper War) because we already know the outcome of the major events for hundreds of years before the Reaper War.  Anything that would be galactically altering in a prequel setting would affect the balance of the ME Trilogy as we currently know it.  Likewise, how do you go and do something in the Milky Way AFTER the Reaper War?  There's not really a way to have a BIGGER threat to the species/galaxy than the Reapers, and a threat to the universe in general seems like it'd be literally impossible to win.  Hell, the galaxy BARELY won against the Reapers...and even THAT took an...unusual ending.

 

ME, for me, is characterized by the character development and gameplay characteristics for the different classes.  My guess is that these remain similar.  I felt the story with ME1 was lacking up until the Virmire missions, and I absolutely hated the monotony of the Mako explorations.  That being said - if they were to smooth out the driving/combat aspect of the Mako and give something to do rather than "take five minutes to drive from point A to point B" or "get over this nearly impassable mountain ridge," I could appreciate it more.

 

I have no real problem with them choosing to explore another galaxy.  It makes sense, and they can move the setting, say, 500-700 years in the future.  Liara would still be alive and could be used as an advisor, but everyone else would be dead.  What I DON'T want to see is a repeat in the new galaxy of the Reaper threat/war.  If they're going to rehash the same basic story in a new galaxy, better to just remaster the original trilogy and bundle it with the DLC.

[Vortex13]

I have no real problem with them choosing to explore another galaxy.  It makes sense, and they can move the setting, say, 500-700 years in the future.  Liara would still be alive and could be used as an advisor, but everyone else would be dead.  What I DON'T want to see is a repeat in the new galaxy of the Reaper threat/war.  If they're going to rehash the same basic story in a new galaxy, better to just remaster the original trilogy and bundle it with the DLC.

 

 

Totally agree on that point.

 

I don't want to see ME:Next pitting us against the 'Not-Reapers' of Andromeda, nor do I want to see a rehash of resolved story arcs. Make the plot about a band of refugees struggling to survive in an alien environment. There is no need to try and top the Reapers, or have the PC going out to be the chosen savior of humanity; especially when something as trivial as a ruptured O2 tank would spell the end for all people trying to flee to the new galaxy.