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[arathor_87]

I dont´t think many people care about that it will be a new protagonist. I can only speak for myself. But if the trilogy is completly ignored in the new game, Shepards story will feel a lot less epic. Even if it´s a new galaxy it would be retarded if the krogans, the asaris and the especially the humans forgot all about the events in the triology. After all, Shepard only saved their organics asses from being harvasted by an ancient race. It´s all about the choices and the characters. 

[ElitePinecone]

No, the Milky Way was just the stage. The people, the technology, and the lore made up the setting. 

 

If we go to a new galaxy, we lose two of those three things, and nearly use the first as well other than a few are along for the ride.

 

It's still subjective. For some people "Mass Effect" was the Mako or planet exploration or the retro sci-fi aesthetic or unlimited ammo, none of which were in the last two games. The borders between "Mass Effect" and "not Mass Effect" are entirely what a person thinks they are.

 

It's silly debating what makes up a series when that varies for each individual. It's sillier to insist that everybody has to accept that a game set in another galaxy wouldn't be "Mass Effect", because some people seem pretty fine with it. Your definition might be different, and that's fine, but there's no point trying to convince everybody else.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

And given the way ME3 ended two of those three are changed 

Changed does not equate to removed like this new "Mass Effect" game would do. 

 

It's still subjective. For some people "Mass Effect" was the Mako or planet exploration or the retro sci-fi aesthetic or unlimited ammo, none of which were in the last two games. The borders between "Mass Effect" and "not Mass Effect" are entirely what a person thinks they are.

 

It's silly debating what makes up a series when that varies for each individual. It's sillier to insist that everybody has to accept that a game set in another galaxy wouldn't be "Mass Effect", because some people seem pretty fine with it. Your definition might be different, and that's fine, but there's no point trying to convince everybody else.

I never said other people had to agree with me, so I don't get where you are getting that.

[wright1978]

Just to reiterate the point I was trying to make:

 

 

There's more to a setting than just slapping a name on it.   THe stuff that makes Dragon Age unique is a variety of things in its setting.  Same as Mass Effect.  If ME were to pull up stakes and relocate to a completely different location (even if that was feasible given the technology base) it wouldn't be Mass Effect because the stuff that Mass Effect was built upon would be gone.

 

As an example, does anyone here remember Stargate Universe?  Not a bad show, imo.  But it simply wasn't Stargate for me.

 

No, if they were to go with some sort of Ark Theory, it would be much more feasilbe to simply take a bunch of ships out into dark space, power down for a couple centuries, then return to the Milky Way.

 

Stargate Universe was an awful show. It had no redeeming features.

 

I still think if you take a bunch of the species into new galaxy some of what was Mass effect would remain. Is it perfect, certainly not but i can see why it might be appealing to them when the alternate is dealing with Casey's red blue green trainwreck in the Milky Way.

 

Ark theory only has use for new galaxy. It doesn't solve any of issues if they go into dark space and return to the milky way trainwreck centuries later.

[AresKeith]

 

Changed does not equate to removed like this new "Mass Effect" game would do. 

 

 

 

Nothing is being removed and references aren't really necessary 

[Iakus]

 

Ark theory only has use for new galaxy. It doesn't solve any of issues if they go into dark space and return to the milky way trainwreck centuries later.

It does if we follow Okeer's advice and simply ignore it.

[AresKeith]

It does if we follow Okeer's advice and simply ignore it.

 

ME3 has too many galaxy changed outcomes to be ignored

 

I'd rather if they just ended the series after 3 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Nothing is being removed and references aren't really necessary 

In a game series where how your choices will affect the game and series, yes references are neccesary. Otherwise it is blatant false advertising and lying. 

 

And yes, things are being removed. Things like the technology, the lore, and at least 99.999% of the races and characters. 

[wright1978]

It does if we follow Okeer's advice and simply ignore it.

 

Sounds more like canonising 'refuse ending' with a twist.

[AresKeith]

In a game series where how your choices will affect the game and series, yes references are neccesary. Otherwise it is blatant false advertising and lying. 

 

Did you expect your choices to affect the next ME game after ME3?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Did you expect your choices to affect the next ME game after ME3?

Yes, I did. Because that's what Bioware said. 

[Dobby]

Yawn

[AresKeith]

Yes, I did. Because that's what Bioware said. 

 

Where did Bioware say your ME3 choices will affect the next game?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Where did Bioware say your ME3 choices will affect the next game?

For years, including during Mass Effect 3, they've been saying how your choices will affect the future installments of the series. That was one of the main selling points of the Mass Effect franchise. 

[PCThug]

We don't know if the events of the trilogy will be referenced in the next game or not. It's a little early to get stressed and pressed over this.

[AresKeith]

For years, including during Mass Effect 3, they've been saying how your choices will affect the future installments of the series. That was one of the main selling points of the Mass Effect franchise. 

 

You're taking that quote too literal, because that doesn't mean the choices within the trilogy would affect a game outside of them

[Hanako Ikezawa]

We don't know if the events of the trilogy will be referenced in the next game or not. It's a little early to get stressed and pressed over this.

Yes, we do. This game will have to take place centuries after the first three, which means to reference the past games would have to involve referencing what happened with the Reapers. Since they won't be doing that, it means that they won't be referencing the games at all. 

 

You're taking that quote too literal, because that doesn't mean the choices within the trilogy would affect a game outside of them

Then why say it during ME3's pre-release, since that game was known to be the final game of the Shepard Trilogy? 

[Kabooooom]

Yes, we do. This game will have to take place centuries after the first three, which means to reference the past games would have to involve referencing what happened with the Reapers. Since they won't be doing that, it means that they won't be referencing the games at all.

Then why say it during ME3's pre-release, since that game was known to be the final game of the Shepard Trilogy?

They wont be referencing the ending to the trilogy, probably, but they could easily reference Shep's actions and choices as they would be irrelevant to the new setting.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They wont be referencing the ending to the trilogy, probably, but they could easily reference Shep's actions and choices as they would be irrelevant to the new setting.

So like reference only stuff from the earlier games, for example Shepard defeating the Collectors? Still makes all of ME3 pointless. 

[The Elder King]

In a game series where how your choices will affect the game and series, yes references are neccesary. Otherwise it is blatant false advertising and lying. 
 
And yes, things are being removed. Things like the technology, the lore, and at least 99.999% of the races and characters.

Wouldn't Some races (beside humans) Return even Considering the leaks?
The majority of characters woudn't return anyway. Outside Krogans and asari, the Other species don't ha Sto arrivando! Lifespan long enough to survive after two-three centuries.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wouldn't Some races (beside humans) Return even Considering the leaks?
The majority of characters woudn't return anyway. Outside Krogans and asari, the Other species don't ha Sto arrivando! Lifespan long enough to survive after two-three centuries.

Hence the at most 0.001% left out in my post. We'll have a few members of a at most a few races along for the ride, but that's still throwing their civilizations away. 

Also, humans wouldn't survive the trip either unless we are a descendant of the people who started the voyage. 

[GalacticWolf5]

Cryostasis and A.I. piloted Ark ships.

There are your answers.

[Kabooooom]

So like reference only stuff from the earlier games, for example Shepard defeating the Collectors? Still makes all of ME3 pointless.

No, if they left towards the end of the war, they could reference the outcomes of both the Genophage and Rannoch arcs.

I just can't wait until the third game where it turns out that a Remnant can join your squad if you pay for cut content dlc.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Cryostasis. A.I. piloted Ark ships.

There are your answers.

I know they are going to do that. Or some super Relay, though it's have to be the size of a star, sends them to Andromeda. 

[wright1978]

The survey mentions a Krogan and doing a loyalty mission for him involving other Krogans.

That would very much imply colonists of other races as well as humans.

Basically its transplanting cuttings of numerous races to new location if it comes to pass.