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[goishen]

I can guarantee that either the wormhole theory is incorrect or we'll see memes out the ass, saying stuff like, "Can get you to another galaxy in an instant.  Yet, traveling to another star system takes hours."

[Kabooooom]

I can guarantee that either the wormhole theory is incorrect or we'll see meme out the ass, saying stuff like, "Can get you to another galaxy in an instant. Yet, traveling to another star system takes hours."

Using a preexisting wormhole is one thing, mastering the technology of wormhole manipulation to traverse space is quite another.

[ElitePinecone]

But we still need touchstones to remind us that this is Mass Effect, not a "spiritual successor" to Mass Effect.  Leaving the galaxy would remove these reminders, likely to the point where it might as well be a completely different IP.

 

Again though, this is pretty subjective. The line between "Mass Effect" and "not Mass Effect" is different for each person, and I don't think the setting is as important for everybody as it is for you. I understand that leaving the galaxy might make you doubt if this is a ME game, but I pretty strongly disagree that it's a big enough change to warrant being called a completely new IP. That sort of language is vaguely hysterical. 

 

The team have already said they've included familiar races and techology like the Mako to make the game "feel" like a Mass Effect one, and from what they've shown so far it's looking pretty good to me. 

[Torgette]

Again though, this is pretty subjective. The line between "Mass Effect" and "not Mass Effect" is different for each person, and I don't think the setting is as important for everybody as it is for you. I understand that leaving the galaxy might make you doubt if this is a ME game, but I pretty strongly disagree that it's a big enough change to warrant being called a completely new IP. That sort of language is vaguely hysterical. 

 

The team have already said they've included familiar races and techology like the Mako to make the game "feel" like a Mass Effect one, and from what they've shown so far it's looking pretty good to me. 

 

I feel like having a citadel-esque ark, a normandy-esque scout ship, a multi-species crew of turians/asari/krogan/etc., the mako, humanity, etc. are already heavy in "familiar faces" much less if we see a character from the old trilogy even if not in person. At one point in time Mass Effect 1 was pretty alien - the only thing familiar about that game was when you could land on the moon - but over time these alien locations became like an in-universe second home. I don't think Andromeda will have any harder of a time doing that, the only thing that will be missing are those blade-runner-esque city scapes.

[Vazgen]

[themikefest]

If they do the ark thing I like to have a cook onboard. Too bad Rupert Gardner can't be on it since he could be dead. I would enjoy having his calamari gumbo for a meal

[ZoliCs]

I wonder what qualifies these people to be on an "ark". 

 

Because I want to see to the best and worst -- and the most idiotic - of each species. Or am I just going to get the most intelligent Volus crew, and the most ideal Asari and Turians, etc..

 

I want scientists, criminals, soldiers, drug addicts, swindlers, or whatever. This only happens in a natural environment.

 

Well they could have the "best and brightest" on the Ark and then jump a few generations after they arrived in Andromeda and have all those you listed.

[von uber]

So we are still going with the 'The Ark leaves before the endings' complete arse pull?

[ElitePinecone]

I feel like having a citadel-esque ark, a normandy-esque scout ship, a multi-species crew of turians/asari/krogan/etc., the mako, humanity, etc. are already heavy in "familiar faces" much less if we see a character from the old trilogy even if not in person. 

 

Yeah, and I suspect a lot of that is actually a deliberate attempt to connect this game with the older ones - or at least, to provide enough familiar stuff among all the new elements. 

 

It's like the project leads all sat down in a room and said "what are the pillars of a "Mass Effect" game?" and then went off and put all of them in. There's a personal starship, a vehicle, alien races, a big Citadel-esque hub, etc.

[dreamgazer]

So we are still going with the 'The Ark leaves before the endings' complete arse pull?

 

So far, yeah, Noah's Space Ark is still a viable running theory. 

 

[themikefest]

So far, yeah, Noah's Space Ark is still a viable running theory. 

 

Another possible theory is I've seen folks post about is a wormhole. If that's the case, how about this wormhole takes the ark/ship in the future, but remains in the Milky Way except in an area we haven't been to before? 

[themikefest]

Well.... I already had Space Jesus. And Space Judas (Legion). And even Space Magdalene (Jack).

 

Might as well add Space Noah to the list.

What about space chess{Samantha)? Hahaha

[Torgette]

Yeah, and I suspect a lot of that is actually a deliberate attempt to connect this game with the older ones - or at least, to provide enough familiar stuff among all the new elements. 

 

It's like the project leads all sat down in a room and said "what are the pillars of a "Mass Effect" game?" and then went off and put all of them in. There's a personal starship, a vehicle, alien races, a big Citadel-esque hub, etc.

 

I think it makes sense to bridge that gap with the familiar and once we're settled in they can go crazy (even within this first game).

 

I wonder what qualifies these people to be on an "ark". 

 

Because I want to see to the best and worst -- and the most idiotic - of each species. Or am I just going to get the most intelligent Volus crew, and the most ideal Asari and Turians, etc..

 

I want scientists, criminals, soldiers, drug addicts, swindlers, or whatever. This only happens in a natural environment.

 

It really depends on when it all takes place, if it's during the reaper war it's going to be hectic and piecemeal. If it's before the war then it could be an almost Cerberus-esque sterile processing operation where they only take the best DNA of each species, maybe even engineer out diseases and bad personalities. I'd prefer the former because it's more interesting, I still think the best group to go would be the people/aliens who built the crucible.

[goishen]

I wonder what qualifies these people to be on an "ark". 

 

Because I want to see to the best and worst -- and the most idiotic - of each species. Or am I just going to get the most intelligent Volus crew, and the most ideal Asari and Turians, etc..

 

I want scientists, criminals, soldiers, drug addicts, swindlers, or whatever. This only happens in a natural environment.

 

 

This is what stopped me from writing fanfic of the Ark.  Who decides who goes and who stays?  Do you send your best fighters?  In that case, you'll prolly lose the reaper war.  Do you send your most brilliant scientists?  In that case, you prolly won't finish the crucible and thus, lose the reaper war.  Engineers, same.  Etc, etc.

 

Obviously you would want to send a mix of them.  But what happens when they get there (assuming that CryoSleep happened)?  It is nature that given a new set of circumstances that one would want to flourish under those circumstances, be they perceived or not.  And then, a certain percentage would become criminals.  As Jack said of Illium, "Illium is one bad day from becoming Omega."   So then, why not send criminals?   If they are going to flourish under our system, why not send them to the other system and let them reign havoc over there? 

 

It's a very interesting question.  

 

EDIT :  The best answer that I could come up with was that it was rushed...   The captain only had a solar day (24 hours) to fly into a system, meet with the leader, get everybody onboard, and then they were off to the other systems.   This would ensure that it would be a mix of everybody.  

[Heimerdinger]

I agree.

Shep semi-hallucinated the whole thing: It was an attempt by the Catalyst/Reapers to directly influence his mind (which they prove they already can do by manifesting as the child) in an attempt to make him abandon his mission while he bled out at the Citadel controls.

But Shep succeeds, somehow. All the rest of the galaxy knows is that the Crucible worked, it shorted the Reapers shields and the fleet fought them and won conventionally.

Now moving on to a next story in the Milky Way...

Honestly, I would be 100% fine with that.

 

Yeah, I made a post about this option some time ago. The only variable would be Shepard dead/Shepard alive. Galaxy is the same, reapers are gone. Got dismissed fast though, something like "IT disproved by EC, now GTFO".

 

..I tried.

[Kabooooom]

Yeah, I made a post about this option some time ago. The only variable would be Shepard dead/Shepard alive. Galaxy is the same, reapers are gone. Got dismissed fast though, something like "IT disproved by EC, now GTFO".

..I tried.

I wish people would realize how much more preferable this would be than literally any other option.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, I made a post about this option some time ago. The only variable would be Shepard dead/Shepard alive. Galaxy is the same, reapers are gone. Got dismissed fast though, something like "IT disproved by EC, now GTFO".

 

..I tried.

I wish people would realize how much more preferable this would be than literally any other option.

Addresses the endings? Check

In a way that keeps to the lore? Check

Allows us to feel connected to past games? Check

 

Yeah, I have no problem with your idea. 

[Helios969]

Well.... I already had Space Jesus. And Space Judas (Legion). And even Space Magdalene (Jack).

 

Might as well add Space Noah to the list.

What is wrong with you.  You forgot the most important one of all.  Space Hamster!

 

I can envision it now.  A stowaway space hamster escapes onto a planet and begins to breed with the Andromeda version of the Tribble to unleash a highly evolved super hamster that with a few dozen generations is overrunning the galaxy.

[dreamgazer]

I wish people would realize how much more preferable this would be than literally any other option.

Eh, you'd have to do a lot of hand-waving to conventionally destroy every single Reaper across the galaxy ID4-style before their shields go back up.

[Kabooooom]

Eh, you'd have to do a lot of hand-waving to conventionally destroy every single Reaper across the galaxy ID4-style before their shields go back up.

Not really. Just make it so it permanently disabled their shields. How? Who knows. We didn't even know how the Crucible worked in the first place. It's a Christmas Miracle.

Meanwhile, it is significantly less hand waving then the red, green and blue endings. So, trading a pile of crap for a small turd - that's a trade off I would be up for, especially if it meant avoiding a new galaxy as the setting.

I'm fine with Andromeda, dont get me wrong. But lets be honest. If they do it, its because of the endings. The endings were horrible, and it isn't even really subjective. People have written literary analyses for why the endings were horrible, lol. They were so bad, they received pop culture references. Even people unfamiliar with ME3 know it as "oh yeah that game with the terrible endings right?". One guy even told me he was unwilling to play the trilogy because of what he heard.

And a new galaxy is "maintaining player choice and artistic integrity". Well, how about an alternative? Man up, and retcon the endings. The Starchild sequence already was written to be deliberately surreal. So finish the job. Imply it was a dream-like sequence, never address the nature of it: People would debate whether Shep was indoctrinated, whether the reapers were trying to merely influence his mind, or whether he just hallucinated the whole thing while he hemorrhaged his vascular volume on the floor of the Citadel tower. Who cares?

The alternative - moving the story forward in the same setting - appeals to me more than maintaining the validity of the ending choices.

[themikefest]

I would just have the crucible fire its beam of whatever  as soon as the arms to the Citadel are fully opened destroying all reapers.  Shepard doesn't have to take the magic carpet ride up to the decision chamber. Simple

[Kabooooom]

I would just have the crucible fire its beam of whatever as soon as the arms to the Citadel are fully opened destroying all reapers. Shepard doesn't have to take the magic carpet ride up to the decision chamber. Simple

This would be simpler, maybe even preferable. My proposal was more an attempt to maintain the actual ending of ME3 in some degree, but retcon the reality of it and thus the galaxy-wide consequences of it.

I think if any game is set in the MW, this is arguably way more preferable than picking a canon ending. But if they had to pick a canon ending, pick destroy. Or homogenize destroy and control and retcon synthesis. Anything but synthesis.