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[Grieving Natashina]

I'm not trying to speak for every member of the ME forums, but I have noticed something.  There is a lot of folks that have a preferred ending, but have come out and posted in favor of making Destroy canon.  Trying to claim that there isn't a "canon ending" strikes me as BioWare trying to have their cake and eat it too.  

 

"Yeah, there was this galactic threat hundreds/thousands of years ago called the Reapers.  Some person named Shepard defeated it, but the details have been lost to time.  Oh and we decided to leave the Milky Way for some reason afterward.  The details have been lost to time, but I think it had something to do with the galaxy after the Reapers were dead.  No one has tried to contact the Milky Way since.  No one remembers why we haven't tried, since the details have been lost to time."

 

That sounds extremely weak to me.   

 

I don't give a rat's behind about whether or not we're in the Milky Way or not.  I guess I'm afraid of everything being so far removed and so distant in an attempt to make none of the endings canon, it's going to lose some of it's identity.  I know I'm a newer fan, and I know that some of the others in this thread have been around the forums since ME2.  So this is just the thoughts I've had kicking around over the last couple of weeks.  

 

Imho, BioWare should do with ME like they did with DA: Enforce some of their own canon.  For instance, Anders lives after Awakening no matter what; The Orlesian Warden (PC for DA:A if the Hero died) never existed; Cullen did not become a tyrant in the Ferelden Circle; the writers created a reason why the mage Warden didn't get his/her boon, ect.  I feel the ME team would be better served in making an ending canon, but they could surprise me and really make it work.  Otherwise, welcome to a crapton of tweets and posts asking about the fate of the Milky Way while the devs give the same answers over and over again.

[themikefest]

 

"Congrats, you just turned every species in the Mass Effect universe into quarians."

Does that mean we will build our own version of the geth?

[Soultaker08]

Bioware deleted or hid it. They do that to threads sometimes.

Isnt that a little bit strange? My hopes are up again that the survey leak is bullsh#t

[Han Yolo]

All that talk about milkyway makes me hungry.

 

But, even if the game is set in another galaxy there would still be the issue that ppl look green with the synthesis ending.

[Drone223]

Since when does hyperbole literally infer that every single human, salarian, asari, and turian engineer in the entire galaxy is devoted to constructing the crucible? Especially when all of the other species were skeptical of it for the majority of the war?

Working on something that could save the galaxy is better than doing nothing and letting the reapers win. Not to mention no one is going to last long against the reapers on their own.

[Grieving Natashina]

Does that mean we will build our version of the geth?

The Cycle must continue.

 

Isnt that a little bit strange? My hopes are up again that the survey leak is bullsh#t

No, not really.  If it devolved into folks yelling at each other and being jerks about it, then the mods will close/delete those threads.

[The Elder King]

Isnt that a little bit strange? My hopes are up again that the survey leak is bullsh#t

As far as I recall they did the same With the DAI leak, Which was legit.

[Kabooooom]

Working on something that could save the galaxy is better than doing nothing and letting the reapers win. Not to mention no one is going to last long against the reapers on their own.

Since when were the races of the galaxy that pragmatic instead of self-absorbed in the nuances of their own politics and internal conflicts?

Again, the Asari and Salarians actively dragged their feet for the majority of the war. They mostly didnt contribute to the crucible during that time. To not contribute to any fall back plans of their own would be lunacy.

[wright1978]

 

No, not really.  If it devolved into folks yelling at each other and being jerks about it, then the mods will close/delete those threads.

It hadn't devolved into any such thing though as far as I could see.

[Grieving Natashina]

It hadn't devolved into any such thing though as far as I could see.

I was asleep when they took down the thread.  I was taking a guess there. <shrug>  

[Iakus]

How matters rather a lot. Basing a game in the Milky Way and avoiding whether there's reapers, genetically raped synthesised beings, broken relays, geth, quarians etc seems utterly impossible. Either you're canonising an ending or creating a new canon ending.

It's totally possible.  Just don't have any of that in the game.  Don't canonize anything, just say the reapers were stopped, and don't refer to how.  Just leave it as a Noodle Incident

[Iakus]

Does that mean we will build our own version of the geth?

The Catalyst seemed to think so 

[Kabooooom]

It hadn't devolved into any such thing though as far as I could see.

There's plenty of other threads discussing it, including the original reddit one and the one on NeoGaf with three historically reliable industry insiders lending their support to it. I seriously doubt Bioware closed it for secrecy, if that's what you're implying. If it is truly real, and I'm not convinced, the cat is already out of the proverbial bag.

[GalacticWolf5]

But, even if the game is set in another galaxy there would still be the issue that ppl look green with the synthesis ending.

Not at all actually. The Ark ships leave the Milky Way before the Crucible is activated (because we have no reason to go to Andromeda if we already defeated the Reapers).

[Soultaker08]

As far as I recall they did the same With the DAI leak, Which was legit.

Wouldnt that be like admitting it?

Noooo :s

[wright1978]

It's totally possible.  Just don't have any of that in the game.  Don't canonize anything, just say the reapers were stopped, and don't refer to how.  Just leave it as a Noodle Incident

can't think of much worse than bioware trying that.

[themikefest]

The Catalyst seemed to think so 

The thing can think whatever it wants. I destroyed it along with all its toys

[wright1978]

There's plenty of other threads discussing it, including the original reddit one and the one on NeoGaf with three historically reliable industry insiders lending their support to it. I seriously doubt Bioware closed it for secrecy, if that's what you're implying. If it is truly real, and I'm not convinced, the cat is already out of the proverbial bag.

Yeah not saying it means anything, it was just rather odd.

[cap and gown]

can't think of much worse than bioware trying that.

 

Why? It seems perfectly legit to me.

[felipejiraya]

BioWare outright deleted the original thread about the leak? Strange.

[Malanek]

At this stage I think the survey is almost certainly legitimate. We have also seen the galaxy map for the next game and about 3 years ago Casey (when he was still at bioware) said...

 

I'll miss the familiarity of going to work every day in a whole galaxy that we created. By the end of the series it had become a universe that we knew as well as anything in the real world, and we knew exactly what kind of experiences we wanted to create and how to go about it.

On the next Mass Effect game, we're starting fresh - we're developing a completely new fictional universe that'll be the basis of a new generation of gameplay and storytelling. It's an exciting time, and the best part is that I'll continue to work with the team that created the Mass Effect series as we push forward.

 

All of this really does sound like we are heading to a new galaxy. Personally my order of preference of how they would do things would have been

 

1) Sequel, canon ending in the milky way.

2) Reboot in new galaxy

3) Sequel, imported save set in milky way

4) Prequel, spinoff etc

 

So while I'm not getting my first pick it is more appealing to me than some other options, and I do think they can make a good story (and game for that matter) under any of these premises.

 

There are some advantages in a new galaxy. The biggest one is that they can introduce new advanced species without having to answer the question about how they avoided the reapers. Same for introducing new technology. There is a lot of freedom for that sort of stuff.

 

I would also point out that we don't know from this leak how we get from the milky way to andromeda. The popular ark theory has issues with it. Why didn't they turn around when the reapers were destroyed? How did they get the technology? Why would you take Krogan, Volus, Geth, Quarian, Vorcha etc? Why wouldn't the crucible still effect them? Why would we want to play someone who ran away instead of fighting the reapers?

 

I prefer an accident. After the crucible was activated a giant wormhole is created in the surge of energy and swallows a large chunk of the fleet, leaving them stranded in Andromeda. I think it is more elegant and leaves far fewer questions.

 

But we don't even know it is a one way trip. The piece of wording in leak spoke about determining the fate of humanity. That simply doesn't make sense unless the milky way can still be effected. Perhaps you were sent through to explore Andromeda and find something that would threaten the milky way?

 

Anyway, I'm just delighted to get more info. Bioware may be annoyed at the leak but I think it is good. It is the biggest chunk of info we have got so far, it is non-spoilerish. It's good for the game imo and I would love for Bioware to confirm this soon.

[Grieving Natashina]

Well, I find it amusing as hell that the redditor that "leaked" this supposed reveal deleted his account.  He even said that he wasn't a troll ("check my post history",) but felt the need to delete his account.  I checked earlier today for giggles.  Good going "Benjamin."  It's easy to claim you're not a troll when you delete your account.

 

My husband is a redditor and I can tell you that folks don't have their accounts deleted for posting plausible sounding rumors.  That's just one of the reasons why my bullsh*t detector is going off. 

[themikefest]

yep. As I've posted before. Until Bioware says whatever about the new ME game, I won't worry about what other sources say or post

[Grieving Natashina]

yep. As I've posted before. Until Bioware says whatever about the new ME game, I won't worry about what other sources say or post

Slightly off topic, but thanks for reminding me.  Before the weekend is up, I need to get started on my massive Eden Prime updates.  Organizing that is going to be a pain, but I get a kick out of hanging out with you and the others in the "What did you do today."  Plus, I'm looking forward to showing my album to my dad.  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

can't think of much worse than bioware trying that.

I can. It's what this leak says they are doing.