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[Malanek]

Well, I find it amusing as hell that the redditor that "leaked" this supposed reveal deleted his account.  He even said that he wasn't a troll ("check my post history",) but felt the need to delete his account.  I checked earlier today for giggles.  Good going "Benjamin."  It's easy to claim you're not a troll when you delete your account.

 

My husband is a redditor and I can tell you that folks don't have their accounts deleted for posting plausible sounding rumors.  That's just one of the reasons why my bullsh*t detector is going off. 

If he was a troll he wouldn't have deleted it so soon. It's possible he was under an NDA, that would make a lot of sense. Or he just didn't want the attention and he failed to realize this was going to explode. A troll does generally like the attention, at least for a bit.

[Iakus]

The thing can think whatever it wants. I destroyed it along with all its toys

The Catalyst is an idea. And ideas cannot be killed 

[Iakus]

can't think of much worse than bioware trying that.

I can.

 

I mean, we got ME3...

 

But yeah, it's not like Andromeda isn't just a way to legitimize doing just that.  With an extra dose of space magic to get the player character there.  And at the expense of the entire Mass Effect setting.

[Grieving Natashina]

If he was a troll he wouldn't have deleted it so soon. It's possible he was under an NDA, that would make a lot of sense. Or he just didn't want the attention and he failed to realize this was going to explode. A troll does generally like the attention, at least for a bit.

He had two days worth of making the internet crazy.  A bunch of gaming "news" sites picked up on this, and now the fanbase is all riled up.  Successful troll is successful, and he's got all the attention he ever wanted for his fan theory.  Why stick around when people like me and my husband can easily look up his post history and call him out on his crap?

 

I was around when the DA:I survey leaked.   Some posters keep saying that's the same thing, but it isn't.  That survey didn't have nearly that much information as the ME rumor did.  Also, when that was leaked, there was a few direct sources of screenshots of the survey itself.  That isn't the case here.  

 

This brings to mind something else though.  I do remember when someone from reddit posted a "leak" about DA:I that was almost completely false.  It was suspiciously similar to this "Benjamin" fellow.  Claimed to have gotten it from a survey, did a pretty plausible long post about the "totally true" information, gave no links whatsoever and deleted their account within 48 hours of posting his "leak."  It did do one thing: Get the fanbase up in arms and talking about the game.

 

Yep, this whole thing still stinks of horse manure.

[wright1978]

I can. It's what this leak says they are doing.

Guess it's personal preference. I infinitely prefer the supposed leak premise over lazy 'don't mention the war or any of the consequences of it'.

[Kabooooom]

Well, I find it amusing as hell that the redditor that "leaked" this supposed reveal deleted his account. He even said that he wasn't a troll ("check my post history",) but felt the need to delete his account. I checked earlier today for giggles. Good going "Benjamin." It's easy to claim you're not a troll when you delete your account.

My husband is a redditor and I can tell you that folks don't have their accounts deleted for posting plausible sounding rumors. That's just one of the reasons why my bullsh*t detector is going off.

Word on the Mass Effect reddit is that he deleted it because he wasn't sure if taking the survey constituted signing an electronic NDA, and he freaked when the thread exploded in popularity.

Supposedly.

[AresKeith]

Word on the Mass Effect reddit is that he deleted it because he wasn't sure if taking the survey constituted signing an electronic NDA, and he freaked when the thread exploded in popularity.

Supposedly.

 

So he's either a troll or really dumb for doing it in the first place 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Guess it's personal preference. I infinitely prefer the supposed leak premise over lazy 'don't mention the war or any of the consequences of it'.

Except  'don't mention the war or any of the consequences of it' is part of what the leak says they are doing. 

[Kabooooom]

So he's either a troll or really dumb for doing it in the first place

Eh, some of the posters in the Mass Effect reddit that knew him say he contacted them days to weeks prior to posting asking if he should do it, asking if it sounded legit, afraid that it would get him in trouble.

If he is a troll, he is an incredibly determined one. In it for the long con.

[AresKeith]

Eh, some of the posters in the Mass Effect reddit that knew him say he contacted them days to weeks prior to posting asking if he should do it, asking if it sounded legit, afraid that it would get him in trouble.

If he is a troll, he is an incredibly determined one. In it for the long con.

 

Wouldn't be the first one I've seen or heard of

[JeffZero]

When shinobi sends out emails and gets a confirmation from his sources I'm 99% on a leak being real. That guy knows things.

[Grieving Natashina]

If anyone wants to compare the rumor with the DA:I survey leak, take a look here.  Note the difference in how much they reveal the plot.

 

http://www.eurogamer...o-story-and-art

 

I was talking with my husband last night about internet behavior.  I know we live in an era where most people have been taught to be very skeptical about what they hear on the internet.  That even "insider information" is either wrong, or it turns out to be misunderstood.  I figure that's a given.  

 

Yet, it seems like some folks are ready to believe unsubstantiated claims for one reason: It proves they were right all along.  Whether it be because it's their greatest fear or their fondest hope, it's time to throw all disbelief out of the window.  All mediums suffer from this, but I think video games are the worst.

[wright1978]

Except  'don't mention the war or any of the consequences of it' is part of what the leak says they are doing.

At least in a new galaxy, milky way and choices made are intact if not the location of the story rather than basing it in the Milky Way and somehow trying to tiptoe round what are major events and pretend they didn't happen. In a new galaxy it's much easier to reference varied player influenced Milky Way world state than doing so within the Milky Way via different qet transmissions if they so wish.

[Iakus]

Guess it's personal preference. I infinitely prefer the supposed leak premise over lazy 'don't mention the war or any of the consequences of it'.

Moving to Andromeda is lazy too.  If caught between two lazy premises, I go with the one that doesn't try to completely frak over the setting.

[Malanek]

Moving to Andromeda is lazy too.  If caught between two lazy premises, I go with the one that doesn't try to completely frak over the setting.

I wouldn't use the word lazy. They have to design and create lore for an entire new galaxy, is a huge amount of work. 

[wright1978]

Moving to Andromeda is lazy too.  If caught between two lazy premises, I go with the one that doesn't try to completely frak over the setting.

Like I said preferences. I'll go for the one that doesn't frak over all my choices to preserve the setting. At least the canonising route is honest about doing that. New galaxy may be a lazy premise but if it preserves races, preserves my choices by virtue of the move and introduces a new interesting area I'll take that as the least bad path as far as I'm personally concerned.

[Grieving Natashina]

When shinobi sends out emails and gets a confirmation from his sources I'm 99% on a leak being real. That guy knows things.

I've never even heard about this person until a couple of days ago.  He knows things... like that (according to his own tweet) Mass Effect might have a trailer at E3 last year?  Sure, he was right about that, but anyone that had been following the BSN knew that much.   I was on the DA forums and I knew that before he said anything.  That's not knowing anything, that sounds like someone making a safe guess.

 

What other things has he been right about before?  I'm willing to suspend some of my skepticism, but I'd like to see some evidence if you have it handy.  

[The Elder King]

Moving to Andromeda is lazy too.  If caught between two lazy premises, I go with the one that doesn't try to completely frak over the setting.

  

I wouldn't use the word lazy. They have to design and create lore for an entire new galaxy, is a huge amount of work.

I agree With Malanek. While between the Two options I prefer the MW, they're still doing a lot of Work in creating New lore lore, culture, technology for Andromeda.

[Kabooooom]

If anyone wants to compare the rumor with the DA:I survey leak, take a look here. Note the difference in how much they reveal the plot.

http://www.eurogamer...o-story-and-art

I was talking with my husband last night about internet behavior. I know we live in an era where most people have been taught to be very skeptical about what they hear on the internet. That even "insider information" is either wrong, or it turns out to be misunderstood. I figure that's a given.

Yet, it seems like some folks are ready to believe unsubstantiated claims for one reason: It proves they were right all along. Whether it be because it's their greatest fear or their fondest hope, it's time to throw all disbelief out of the window. All mediums suffer from this, but I think video games are the worst.

I was skeptical too. Three different "insiders" with a historically good track record have thrown in their support for this leak. I'm still skeptical, but either it is an elaborate con from one person and three other reputable sources are in on it, its real, or its mass hysteria secondary to a con that has sucked in everyone including Shinobi and company.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I wouldn't use the word lazy. They have to design and create lore for an entire new galaxy, is a huge amount of work. 

   I agree With Malanek. While between the Two options I prefer the MW, they're still doing a lot of Work in creating New lore lore, culture, technology for Andromeda.

No, they don't. While it is in a new galaxy, the game only takes place in a stellar cluster, not the entire galaxy.

[The Elder King]

No, they don't. While it is in a new galaxy, the game only takes place in a stellar cluster, not the entire galaxy.

It's still a lot of Work To do.

[Grieving Natashina]

I was skeptical too. Three different "insiders" with a historically good track record have thrown in their support for this leak. I'm still skeptical, but either it is an elaborate con from one person and three other reputable sources are in on it, its real, or its mass hysteria secondary to a con that has sucked in everyone including Shinobi and company.

Yes, I keep being told this.  I also have been reading the love fest for this person on NeoGAF and these other "insiders" as well.  One of which I know is a moderator for a popular gaming site that has gotten into trouble before for spreading rumors.  I did a quick google search on NeoGAF and even fairly recently they were called out for encouraging rumors.  

 

I've been told for two days now that I'm supposed to trust these people with their "respected history."  Yet, I haven't seen any links that have proven this.   The closest I've seen was, "They might show a trailer at E3 2014 for Mass Effect."  Which was rumored long before that tweet.  Okay, so far I've seen him right about something that might happen.

 

That's why I'm requesting the links.  I'd like to try to judge for myself.  

[Malanek]

 

No, they don't. While it is in a new galaxy, the game only takes place in a stellar cluster, not the entire galaxy.

 

Lol, splitting hairs much? 

 

The leak did say "Explore 100s of solar systems (over 4x size of Mass Effect 3)"

[Iakus]

I wouldn't use the word lazy. They have to design and create lore for an entire new galaxy, is a huge amount of work. 

And how long until Andromeda is no longer a viable setting?  Do we move again?  

[AresKeith]

And how long until Andromeda is no longer a viable setting?  Do we move again?  

 

Well I doubt they'll do another Reaper-ish plot again