People love to state that 99% of TMW is yet unexplored, but that doesn't mean there aren't already space-faring species with mass relay networks we simply haven't encountered in those areas.
Sure. In fact it's already happened at least once (the rachni)
That actually makes the pathfinder Initiative as a Star Treky "exploring strange new worlds" a better selling point. Who knows what other races are out there, and what their intentions might be?
I like this idea. It brings a frontier feel to the relay network
Similar to the frontier feel of being in Andromeda. The wild west, except in space!
I just got an idea about the Reapers in Andromeda. Assuming the races of the galaxy did manage to get there somehow.
So, say, the Reapers were in Andromeda, had an established relay network and cycles. Some cycle built a Crucible and destroyed the Reapers alongside mass relays. They can have the races of Andromeda rebuild the relays and keep the familiar mass relay travel in ME:Next. Or they can have the relays destroyed and have us explore the galaxy via regular FTL. It's a way to explore the consequences of one specific ending without canonizing any of the trilogy endings 
Similar to the frontier feel of being in Andromeda. The wild west, except in space!
Yeah but with less lore breakage 
I just got an idea about the Reapers in Andromeda. Assuming the races of the galaxy did manage to get there somehow.
So, say, the Reapers were in Andromeda, had an established relay network and cycles. Some cycle built a Crucible and destroyed the Reapers alongside mass relays. They can have the races of Andromeda rebuild the relays and keep the familiar mass relay travel in ME:Next. Or they can have the relays destroyed and have us explore the galaxy via regular FTL. It's a way to explore the consequences of one specific ending without canonizing any of the trilogy endings
Great, canonize Destroy without canonizing Destroy! I'm sure that'll go over great. 
99% of the galaxy is unexplored, that leaves a lot of potential to tell new stories.
The whole concept of running away while the galaxy is fighting for its existence is defeatist in nature, so it does in a way render the whole point of saving it moot.
Yeah but with less lore breakage
There's ways to get to Andromeda without breaking too much lore at all, but everyone's so wedded to this Reaper-war era Ark ship idea to consider it.
Great, canonize Destroy without canonizing Destroy! I'm sure that'll go over great.
Hehe, why not? Explore the consequences without negating the impact of Shepard's choice. They can even set two other games in different galaxies exploring the consequences of Control and Synthesis. It will actually increase the impact of ME3 endings, rather than negate them
I've brought this up several times - but the whole 99% thing is inaccurate. It doesn't matter much, because the galaxy is unfathomably huge, but we know with certainty that the relay network does NOT cover the entire galaxy.
Indeed, we even know that primary relays (not secondary relays) are separated by an average of thousands of light years, leaving vast swaths of space uncovered by the network and unfeasible to access via conventional FTL.
Why this is, is never explained. We know that there is a large region surrounding the center of the galaxy by about 15,000 light years in which life bearing planets are rare or nonexistent. Personally, I suspect that the Reapers merely seeded relays in the galaxy in all star systems that could potentially give rise to life over billions of years (as well as systems containing valuable resources), of which the number would be significantly lower than the total number of stars in a galaxy. Creating a network otherwise would be enormously wasteful and impractical.
So, does the network cover all 200-400 billion stars of the galaxy? No, it definitely does not, and people repeatedly saying it does, doesn't make it true.
That is absolutely massive. There are PLENTY of stories that could be told in unexplored regions of the Milky Way relay network. So, does the network cover all 200-400 billion stars of the galaxy? No, it definitely does not, and people repeatedly saying it does, doesn't make it true. But even a very, very, very low estimate has it covering billions, as the galaxy itself is huge.
Did your read one of my earlier posts?
The galaxy has approximately 100 billion stars its unlikely that the network would be able to cover the whole galaxy.
I clearly stated that its unlikely that the relay network covers the entire galaxy due to share number of stars, at no point did I say the network covers the entire galaxy.
The galaxy has several hundred billion stars its really hard to believe that the mass relay's are linked to every star cluster in the galaxy.:
And I'm suggesting that, unless you have additional info about the relay network, your previous statement is not supported by lore.
Lore says there are a number of inactive relays mapped and known by council races. Each of them would have a partner somewhere, likely an unmapped area.
People love to state that 99% of TMW is yet unexplored, but that doesn't mean there aren't already space-faring species with mass relay networks we simply haven't encountered in those areas.
The galaxy has several hundred billion stars its really hard to believe that the mass relay's are likened to every star cluster in the galaxy.
It's actually one of the reasons why people say that a move to another galaxy is unnecessary. An unexplored area of the Milky Way has the same potential of development for new species, technology and characters as a new galaxy while still preserving some iconic elements of Mass Effect - mass relays.
We know they aren't in every system, and perhaps not in every nebula.
I suspect the reapers tend to put them in systems where they expect organic life to erupt - and perhaps create some sort of patchwork in other areas to make it easier for them to check there.
Sort of like having a bus stop on every corner in heavily populated areas, and a mile apart where population is sparse.
Even that will only cover a small portion of the galaxy.
Even that will only cover a small portion of the galaxy.
IIRC, the leak indicates the game will take place in some star cluster with hundreds of systems. I'd guess travel will be such that relays won't be needed.
With how big the cluster would have to be, Relays would be needed to be efficient.
That depends on how you define "cover".
Wouldn't be surprised if there are star clusters in between relay's that the network doesn't account for.
Any part of TMW with relays would also have had a reaper presence and the ending issue. Relays could have been damaged / destroyed, life forms synthesized.
Whether any of us individually care if they canonize an ending, they have already said they aren't going to do that.
IIRC, the leak indicates the game will take place in some star cluster with hundreds of systems. I'd guess travel will be such that relays won't be needed.
We did discuss it once, didn't we? The damaged relay idea.
Or they can homogenize endings into one, preserving only minor differences, like they did with the rachni.
They have options, the key here is to figure out which option is the least antagonizing and fitting with their vision for the next game.
No matter how much % are covered by the relay network, by The RGB-explosion reaches every corner of the galaxy.
A ME4 in the milkyway would be affected by the ME3 endings one way or another. Is that really so hard to comprehend?
No matter how much % are covered by the relay network, by The RGB-explosion reaches every corner of the galaxy.
A ME4 in the milkyway would be affected by the ME3 endings one way or another. Is that really so hard to comprehend?
Scientifically speaking, it is very hard to comprehend...but I get your point in the context of this argument.
No matter how much % are covered by the relay network, by The RGB-explosion reaches every corner of the galaxy.
A ME4 in the milkyway would be affected by the ME3 endings one way or another. Is that really so hard to comprehend?
Not necessarily. The wave has limits, that's why it spreads through the relays. It is even visible in the ending cutscene - the explosion disperses with distance.
Not necessarily. The wave has limits, that's why it spreads through the relays. It is even visible in the ending cutscene - the explosion disperses with distance.
It probably follows the Inverse-Square Law. When you double the distance the intensity is reduced to 1/4 the initial; and the same reduction each time it doubles thereafter. Following that it disperses rather quickly no matter how powerful the initial wave was.
I'd say the cutscene obviously shows that the whole galaxy is affected. Every splosion covers big areas and the wavefront travels with extreme FTL velocity.
The whole ending wouldn't make much sense otherwise, would it?
I'd say the cutscene obviously shows that the whole galaxy is affected. Every splosion covers big areas and the wavefront travels with extreme FTL velocity.
The whole ending wouldn't make much sense otherwise, would it?
The cutscene shows only half of the galaxy affected. That the wave affects the entire galaxy is a logical extrapolation. But if the writers decide to lock a portion of the galaxy with a damaged/destroyed relay, it won't contradict the ending. Reapers take their time with harvest. They, for example, didn't start harvest of the asari until later in the game and didn't even start harvesting salarians if I'm not mistaken. It is possible that they simply didn't get to that part of the galaxy.
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