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Besides which, any place the races of the galaxy can go, the Reapers can follow, and get there faster anyway.

 

Why would they follow, though?

 

For all we know their mandate only extends to the Milky Way. They're led by a broken child AI still following orders it received millions of years ago. 


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Thats exactly what I was thinking

Same, or at least the core-part that was later expanded (if the game takes place some time after arrival and initial settlement). One would think all the races would want to preserve the hypothetical Ark as the starting point of new civilization



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Again, did that with DAI only to be drug further down. 

 

This way works better. I've been burned by too many things in my life. I need to stop being optimistic. 

 

This I can understand. I was excited about DAI... preordered, bought books and everything. 

 

Now I'm done with Dragon Age. Don't want to derail here, but I'm gonna try not to look back.



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Again, did that with DAI only to be drug further down. 

 

This way works better. I've been hurt by too many things in my life. I need to stop being optimistic. 

 

At this rate you might wanna step back from gaming for a bit then


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Why would they follow, though?

 

For all we know their mandate only extends to the Milky Way. They're led by a broken child AI still following orders it received millions of years ago. 

 

Someone said this earlier, but I don't see why their mandate would extend to only the milky way. They're trying to solve a general problem. The harvest is only a stop gap solution. Not the answer to their problems. And if they're asking general questions about synthetic/organic relations, it would seem that they would look for answers everywhere if they could (like other galaxies). But they don't have the capability.



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This I can understand. I was excited about DAI... preordered, bought books and everything. 

 

Now I'm done with Dragon Age. Don't want to derail here, but I'm gonna try not to look back.

Well, I mean I like DAI, but that only happened after assuming the worst about it. It still has pretty much nothing on my wish list I had for it and everything I had on my fear list. 

 

Same with this. If I assume the worst about ME: Next, I may actually find it enjoyable by the time it comes out. 

 

 

At this rate you might wanna step back from gaming for a bit then

Why? Gaming is one of the only escapes I have.



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Someone said this earlier, but I don't see why their mandate would extend to only the milky way. They're trying to solve a general problem. The harvest is only a stop gap solution. Not the answer to their problems. And if they're asking general questions about synthetic/organic relations, it would seem that they would look for answers everywhere if they could (like other galaxies). But they don't have the capability.

 

Because the AI's objective is only for the Milky Way



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Because the AI's objective is only for the Milky Way

 

Sure about that? 

 

Spoiler



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How would you feel if they canonized a ending or just rewrote it out?

Canonizing an ending would suck.

 

Rewriting it out, so there is no canon ending besides "The Reapers were stopped" would be fine


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Because the AI's objective is only for the Milky Way

 

Since when? Leviathan never said that. It was trying to solve an abstract problem. Not a concrete one about the milky way specifically. And Leviathan said that it wouldnt relent until it found it's answer. The Harvest isn't the answer...  only a "best for now" solution. It keeps looking for other things. It's why it perked up when talking about Synthesis. It's tried before, but failed. If it knew that other galaxies might provide answers here, it would have used them.


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Sure about that? 

 

Spoiler

 

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Why would they follow, though?

 

For all we know their mandate only extends to the Milky Way. They're led by a broken child AI still following orders it received millions of years ago. 

Or their tech limits their grasp to just the Milky Way.



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I see no reason why the Reapers wouldn't go to other galaxies to try to solve the problem the Catalyst was given to solve. Makes more sense then them taking 50,000 year naps. 



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Someone said this earlier, but I don't see why their mandate would extend to only the milky way. They're trying to solve a general problem. The harvest is only a stop gap solution. Not the answer to their problems. And if they're asking general questions about synthetic/organic relations, it would seem that they would look for answers everywhere if they could (like other galaxies). But they don't have the capability.

 

If we accept that, though, then there's no reason why they wouldn't have expanded across the universe in the millions of years since their creation. I hardly think they'd stop at Andromeda. 

 

And even if that were true, and they were in heaps of galaxies, why weren't the Milky Way races absolutely annihilated by an overwhelming number of Reapers? 

 

I suspect that the writers at Bioware really don't want to address the Reapers ever again, given the mess of ME3 and Leviathan, and Montreal will want to do something else regardless. So... if they come up at all, I reckon it'll be handwaved that they are restricted to our galaxy.



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I see no reason why the Reapers wouldn't go to other galaxies to try to solve the problem the Catalyst was given to solve. Makes more sense then them taking 50,000 year naps. 

 

If that was true then their numbers would be even greater than it was in ME3 to the point where the war would've been over as soon as they arrived



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If that was true then their numbers would be even greater than it was in ME3 to the point where the war would've been over as soon as they arrived

And if they're doing more than 1 galaxy then why not all hundred billion of them.



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Colonization and exploration seems to be the order of the day according to the supposed leak. You don't need to go to Andromeda to explore new regions of space and i'll believe it when I see it at E3. As stated previously the ME3 ending only continues to remain the elephant in the room so long as you don't even bother to attempt to address it. I don't care how they re-establish canon just do it now so that our galaxy isn't forever left in a ruined abandoned state.

Canonizing an ending would suck.
Rewriting it out, so there is no canon ending besides "The Reapers were stopped" would be fine


So ignoring the endings is fine so long as they don't try to do anything new?

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I see no reason why the Reapers wouldn't go to other galaxies to try to solve the problem the Catalyst was given to solve. Makes more sense then them taking 50,000 year naps. 

Would that mean the catalyst jumps from one Citadel in one galaxy to another Citadel in another galaxy? 



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And if they're doing more than 1 galaxy then why not all hundred billion of them.

Maybe they employ other species to do their dirty work in those 100 billion galalxies



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Maybe they employ other species to do their dirty work in those 100 billion galalxies

 

At some point the "insane machine intelligences destroying life across the universe" trope of sci-fi becomes ridiculously bleak if they've already consumed millions of galaxies, or whatever. 

 

It also immediately changes the Reapers from merely being the dominant force in our galaxy to being the dominant force in, what... the universe? And Shepard's trilogy was just about deciding the fate of one galaxy, while meanwhile a bajillion other Reapers continue to reap all across the universe? 

 

I think it elevates the Reapers to a position in the universe that the writers will not want, post-ME3.



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At some point the "insane machine intelligences destroying life across the universe" trope of sci-fi becomes ridiculously bleak if they've already consumed millions of galaxies, or whatever. 

 

It also immediately changes the Reapers from merely being the dominant force in our galaxy to being the dominant force in, what... the universe? And Shepard's trilogy was just about deciding the fate of one galaxy, while meanwhile a bajillion other Reapers continue to reap all across the universe? 

 

I think it elevates the Reapers to a position in the universe that the writers will not want, post-ME3.

 

It makes them more ridiculous than they already were



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The endings ruined one game. We shouldn't let it ruin another nor run away to another galaxy.

 

Amalgamate them, most people either dislike or don't care about the endings. Lets keep the trilogy locations (plus Palaven) as "home base" while exploring the unknown. Heck, this would be 'safer' than ditching and moving to another galaxy. The next game will be heavily scrutinized, and I believe that having the trilogy's history will add depth and stability to the new story. Otherwise, we'll just more easily notice the inevitable parallels between ME4's setting and the trilogy's.

Personally, what matters far more than the ending is referencing the fate of Shepard and the Normandy's crew.



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So ignoring the endings is fine so long as they don't try to do anything new?

There's plenty of new things they can do the Milky Way.

 

Hundreds of billions of stars, remember?

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There's plenty of new things they can do the Milky Way.

 

Hundreds of billions of stars, remember?

 

That basically all got affected by the Crucible 



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That basically all got affected by the Crucible 

So we ignore the Crucible.

 

That's the point of Ark Theory anyway.