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[Guanxii]

A theoretical wormhole between two points in our galaxy based on cosmic strings would require inordinately massive quantities of negative energy which is not naturally abundant, difficult to create in small quantities with giant particle accelerators and there is certainly not enough of the stuff within the known galaxy to make this trip even remotely theoretically possible. A wormhole spanning millions of light years would still take upwards of decades on end probably millennia to traverse and to keep it open for any extended period of time would be next to impossible.

 

The present races being capable of creating a wormhole to reach Andromeda is not even sci-fi it's complete fantasy b.s.

[Dr. rotinaj]

If the leak is true then it looks like the beginning of the game will be reminiscent of ME2's beginning. We'll all have to heavily suspend our disbelief and accept that the premise makes no sense.

 

I'm not fond of the idea of abandoning the Milky Way. There is so much unexplored content. We could learn more about Batarians, we could have gone to more colonies in the Traverse, we could have explored the Terminus systems. We could have even gone way back to the Prothean times. According to Javik there were tons of conflicts and different races back then. If Bioware wanted to completely change the setting, why not set the game in the Prothean Empire? Apart from the exploration focus that reeks of DAI, this is my biggest gripe with the leak. There are so many interesting things that have been introduced but remain unexplored but they would all be abandoned to start fresh.

 

I mean there's potential that the Andromeda stuff will be interesting, but the Milky Way stuff was already interesting.

[Malanek]

A theoretical wormhole between two points in our galaxy based on cosmic strings would require inordinately massive quantities of negative energy which is not naturally abundant, difficult to create in small quantities with giant particle accelerators and there is certainly not enough of the stuff within the known galaxy to make this trip even theoretically possible. A wormhole spanning millions of light years would still take upwards of decades on end probably millennia to traverse and to keep it open for any extended period of time would be next to impossible.

 

The present races being capable of creating a wormhole to reach Andromeda is not even sci-fi it's complete fantasy.

Hmmm, like the energy discharged from the crucible firing. Lasting only a fraction of a second, the wormhole would implode after sucking a bunch of ships through.

[Steppenwolf]

Then think of it this way:
I'd rather have a punch in the nose than a kick to the groin.

OK, then don't act like you just want to preserve the lore when you actually don't care about the lore. Just say you would prefer one thing over the other.

A theoretical wormhole between two points in our galaxy based on cosmic strings would require inordinately massive quantities of negative energy which is not naturally abundant, difficult to create in small quantities with giant particle accelerators and there is certainly not enough of the stuff within the known galaxy to make this trip even theoretically possible. A wormhole spanning millions of light years would still take upwards of decades on end probably millennia to traverse and to keep it open for any extended period of time would be next to impossible.
The present races being capable of creating a wormhole to reach Andromeda is not even sci-fi it's complete fantasy b.s.

Mass Effect has always been fantasy BS. The Beacon? Biotics? Mass relays? Project Lazarus? Every intelligent race in the galaxy but one is humanoid? It's never been hard sci-fi. They come up with ideas and make up fantasy BS to justify them. They could just say you get to the Andromeda galaxy via blackhole and it would be par for the course for this series.

[von uber]

This is Mass Effect.

 

 

Not Andromeda. You might as well call it an entirely different franchise.

[Guanxii]

OK, then don't act like you just want to preserve the lore when you actually don't care about the lore. Just say you would prefer one thing over the other.


Mass Effect has always been fantasy BS. The Beacon? Biotics? Mass relays? Project Lazarus? Every intelligent race in the galaxy but one is humanoid? It's never been hard sci-fi. They come up with ideas and make up fantasy BS to justify them. They could just say you get to the Andromeda galaxy via blackhole and it would be par for the course for this series.

I suppose nothing they will ever do will ever be any more ridiculous than synthesis already is.

 

I still think if we are going to Andromeda the least cringe-worthy explanation for me would be if we simply follow the reaper trail through the citadel relay to see where it leads only to find out that every galaxy has it's own citadel and relay network all linked up together on an infinite scale and whatever is out there can reach us through it just as quickly as the reapers did.

[Iakus]

OK, then don't act like you just want to preserve the lore when you actually don't care about the lore. Just say you would prefer one thing over the other.
 

I do care about the lore.  That's why I want to stay in the Milky Way, rather than throw away 99% of the galaxy just because ME3 had a sucky ending.

 

I have seen zero compelling reason to twist lore into a pretzel yet again when anything that can be done in Andromada can be done as easily more more easily in the Milky Way.

[Grieving Natashina]

I just had a theory about the Andromeda idea.  What if we aren't going to Andromeda, but rather something comes in from Andromeda and we have to study/explore in an a previously uncharted region of the Milky Way?  Remember, after the Rachni Wars, no one was allowed to open a relay to an unknown location (which is why the first Contact War happened.)  I've been wondering if the inactive relays were affected by the beam.  Neither the Starchild nor the devs ever said, and I'm fine with them expanding on the idea of an inactive relay.   Thinking about it further, with the Reapers gone, other races from outside of the galaxy might have intergalactic travel and could have come to us.  This would not only allow us to stay in the Milky Way, but also get to explore uncharted areas.  As many have pointed out, there is still most of the Milky Way untouched.

 

Andromeda might be the theme, but it doesn't have to be the player destination.  Now, I could see us ending up the for the end game ala the Omega Relay in ME2, but I feel there is a good chance the majority of the game isn't happening there.  I'm not trying to say my theory is the right one, or even that good of one.  However, it seems more plausible than just up and leaving the galaxy.

 

/two credits

[Malanek]

I just had a theory about the Andromeda idea.  What if we aren't going to Andromeda, but rather something comes in from Andromeda and we have to study/explore in an a previously uncharted region of the Milky Way?  Remember, after the Rachni Wars, no one was allowed to open a relay to an unknown location (which is why the first Contact War happened.)  I've been wondering if the inactive relays were affected by the beam.  Neither the Starchild nor the devs ever said, and I'm fine with them expanding on the idea of an inactive relay.   Thinking about it further, with the Reapers gone, other races from outside of the galaxy might have intergalactic travel and could have come to us.  This would not only allow us to stay in the Milky Way, but also get to explore uncharted areas.  As many have pointed out, there is still most of the Milky Way untouched.

 

Andromeda might be the theme, but it doesn't have to be the player destination.  Now, I could see us ending up the for the end game ala the Omega Relay in ME2, but I feel there is a good chance the majority of the game isn't happening there.  I'm not trying to say my theory is the right one, or even that good of one.  However, it seems more plausible than just up and leaving the galaxy.

 

/two credits

Yeah, the leak doesn't actually confirm ark theory. There are a few things it could mean, what you suggest is still possible.

 

There was the line "As you uncover who the Remnant were, and the mysteries their ruins contain, you are drawn into a violent race to find the source of their forgotten technology that will determine the fate of humanity." which actually supports what you said because it is hard to determine the fate of humanity if you have nothing to do with 99.99% of humanity.

[Steppenwolf]

I have seen zero compelling reason to twist lore into a pretzel yet again

Then why are you advocating for exactly that?

when anything that can be done in Andromada can be done as easily more more easily in the Milky Way.

No it can't. There could never be a sense of isolation or the same sort of desperation in the Milky Way because you would never be far from familiar territory.

This is Mass Effect.

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Not Andromeda. You might as well call it an entirely different franchise.

This is Mass Effect.

[MrFob]

Well, so how about this one: In about 3.75 billion years, Andromeda is predicted to collide with the Milky Way anyway. They did say the new game may take place in the far future. Maybe we don't even have to leave here to get to Andromeda anymore. We'll just wait it out

More convenient and easier on the drive core.

[xPez]

This is Mass Effect.

 

*snip*

 

Not Andromeda. You might as well call it an entirely different franchise.

 

You realise that if someone didn't know what galaxy ME was set in, none of your pictures would make them think "Oh, it's the Milky Way".

 

I actually thought the point you were making was that Mass Effect is all about the characters and not the location, which I agree with, so I was a bit disappointed when I got to the bottom of the post.

[dreamgazer]

So, What's next? We just keep waiting till the official announcement?

E3, probably, and much griping until then. New allegiances will form, proclamations about fanbase loyalty will be made, hyperbole will be spouted.

[The Elder King]

So, What's next? We just keep waiting till the official announcement?

Yup. Though I doubt it'll happen before E3.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If that was true then their numbers would be even greater than it was in ME3 to the point where the war would've been over as soon as they arrived

It should have been, to be honest. They should have hit the Citadel first, turned off the Relay Network, and then clean up one sector at a time. But Bioware had to give the Reapers the idiot ball or else it wouldn't be much of a game. 

 

Would that mean the catalyst jumps from one Citadel in one galaxy to another Citadel in another galaxy? 

Possibly. Explains why he wasn't there in ME1. Hadn't moved into his Milky Way home yet. 

 

The direct continuation of the series has more issues to deal with besides your choice of color. There's the fates of the Krogan, Quarians, Geth and Rachni. BioWare should just leave those races out of the game?

Wouldn't be surprised if they leave out the last three anyway.

[Winterking]

Refuse has the issue of everyone dead.

Refuse shouldn't be considered at all if the endings are to be mentioned in the next Mass Effect just like Shepard dying in the Suicide Mission wasn't considered for Mass Effect 3.

[Grieving Natashina]

E3, probably, and much griping until then. New allegiances will form, proclamations about fanbase loyalty will be made, hyperbole will be spouted.

Remember the Fishquistion thread?  I could see a Fish Effect thread coming out of the insanity that's bound to happen on this forum in the coming months.

[SofaJockey]

... "As you uncover who the Remnant were, and the mysteries their ruins contain, you are drawn into a violent race ...

 

Remnant's, hmmm, where does that sound familiar...

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Remember the Fishquistion thread?  I could see a Fish Effect thread coming out of the insanity that's bound to happen on this forum in the coming months.

Sounds like a better game than this leaked one. Closer to being an actual Mass Effect game too. 

[Winterking]

Yeah, the leak doesn't actually confirm ark theory. There are a few things it could mean, what you suggest is still possible.

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Agreed. For all we know the next Mass Effect takes place thousands years after the Reaper War and we are going to the Andromeda Galaxy for other reasons other than escaping the Reapers.

Maybe the Citadel Relay plays a role in this since it links directly to dark space thus shortning the distances between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
 

[AresKeith]

Sounds like a better game than this leaked one. Closer to being an actual Mass Effect game too. 

 

[von uber]

You realise that if someone didn't know what galaxy ME was set in, none of your pictures would make them think "Oh, it's the Milky Way".

 

I actually thought the point you were making was that Mass Effect is all about the characters and not the location, which I agree with, so I was a bit disappointed when I got to the bottom of the post.

 

The characters and races that inhabit the places - they are all tied together. It gives them history and depth and creates a believable place.

Transfer those races somewhere else and you lose that, and thus the depth of the universe. They might as well be any aliens.

[Iakus]

Then why are you advocating for exactly that?
 

I';m advocating less pretzel-twisting.  Not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

No it can't. There could never be a sense of isolation or the same sort of desperation in the Milky Way because you would never be far from familiar territory.

 Yet again

 

HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF STARS!!!

 

This galaxy is freaking BIG!!!  Plenty of room to get lost in it.

[RIPRemusTheTurian]

The part that worries me the most is the focus on humanity. I'd prefer it if our exploration was a joint effort between different race's governments.

 

Are we going to end up dominating the exploration attempts of other races, the "savage lands", and the "warring alien races"? Will our turian, krogan, and quarian companions join the human utopia colony because "humans know best", and they've seen the error in their traditionalist/aggressive/nomadic ways? Does the ability of inter-galactic travel come from "human ingenuity"? Are we so entitled that we need to claim our own freaking galaxy?

 

Bioware made such unique and interesting alien races that it feels like a disservice to call them 'aliens'. I hope they aren't discounted, when there's still so much more they could do, and they're personally more compelling to me than the average N7 or Alliance officer.