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[Nohvarr]

You mean the same Quarians who are always looking for fuel and necessities, sending their children out to do it as a rite of passage. They are no more knowledgeable about intergalactic travel than the Raloi. 

If we're using Reaper tech fuel is no longer a concern, only food which the Quarians have solved with their liveships.

 

 

 

Yeah they got the thanix canon.  But not to the levels that a Reaper's gun can manage.  The thanix is still Reaper-Lite at best, or else the war wouldn't have been so desperate.

 

Dosen't have to be Reaper level to make it feasible, just getting within range changes the possibilities considerably.

 

 

 

No, I want you to explain how the ark would solve the problem of keeping it's crew alive, fed, hydrated, etc for a centuries long voyage as well as when they are actually there.

 

The Migrant Fleet has already solved all three issues

 

From the Codex: Quarians also serve volunteer rotations aboard the three Liveships which form the heart of the Fleet. Enormous vessels which are recognised as being incredible feats of aerospace and agricultural engineering, the Liveships provide much of the food for the quarian Migrant Fleet.

 

So it's well within the lore.

 

How will they reverse engineer stasis pods by the time the Reapers attack when they only discovered the ones on Ilos only two years ago.

 

They managed to reverse engineer the Thanix Canon in less time so it's reasonable to assume this is plausible

 

And what about when they arrive? They have no idea if there will be food or water or air that can sustain them when they get there, so the ship will have to be the source of that.

 

Already covered with the Migrant fleet.

[Paridave]

Then they might as well have called it something other than "Mass Effect"

I do believe the game was named after the Mass Effect Relays so not having relays would be a major flaw.

 

As for the leak, evidently something similar dropped before DAI and that turned out to be a lot of Ha Ha Ha.  One thing it does do is put the franchise high on the chat list;  sooooo many people are talking about it.  And I do believe the original leak has now been deleted....  hhhmmm.

[dreamgazer]

Yeah, if they're going to hack Reaper drive cores for this journey, it'll have to be in a post-war, post-indoctrination environment.

[CronoDragoon]

I do believe the game was named after the Mass Effect Relays so not having relays would be a major flaw.

It's true that not having relays takes away some of ME's iconic identity. However, the Mass Effect is a result of element zero, which is the real heart of this (and also accounts for important gameplay stuff like biotic powers).

There's plenty of things you could do with eezo that aren't mass relays.

[The Elder King]

I do believe the game was named after the Mass Effect Relays so not having relays would be a major flaw.
 
As for the leak, evidently something similar dropped before DAI and that turned out to be a lot of Ha Ha Ha.  One thing it does do is put the franchise high on the chat list;  sooooo many people are talking about it.  And I do believe the original leak has now been deleted....  hhhmmm.

Nope, the leak before DAI's announcement was true; there was another, which contained some false (or outdated) info but some true one as well.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If we're using Reaper tech fuel is no longer a concern, only food which the Quarians have solved with their liveships.

Haven't cracked how to make Reaper-tier cores, so that's not an option. 

 

The Migrant Fleet has already solved all three issues

 

From the Codex: Quarians also serve volunteer rotations aboard the three Liveships which form the heart of the Fleet. Enormous vessels which are recognised as being incredible feats of aerospace and agricultural engineering, the Liveships provide much of the food for the quarian Migrant Fleet.

The liveships have to constantly be resupplied as well, and they have several of them. There are no such options in the void between galaxies, and only one ark ship. 

[Heimdall]

Haven't cracked how to make Reaper-tier cores, so that's not an option. 
 

The liveships have to constantly be resupplied as well, and they have several of them. There are no such options in the void between galaxies, and only one ark ship.

There doesn't have to be only one Ark ship.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

There doesn't have to be only one Ark ship.

If they mass produce this technology, it is an even bigger slap in the face of their established setting, lore, and technology. 

[CronoDragoon]

There doesn't have to be only one Ark ship.

There doesn't, but based on Aaryn Flynn's post I think there will be. He talked about ~160 people being what you'd need for a sustainable population, and that you'd need to "build a pretty big ship" to accomodate them. It's unclear to me whether the Tempest would be the ark ship or your personal exploration ship, though.

[dreamgazer]

There doesn't, but based on Aaryn Flynn's post I think there will be. He talked about ~160 people being what you'd need for a sustainable population, and that you'd need to "build a pretty big ship" to accomodate them. It's unclear to me whether the Tempest would be the ark ship or your personal exploration ship, though.

 

That'd be 160 for one species, though, right?

[CronoDragoon]

That'd be 160 for one species, though, right?

 

Good point. Still, if new/rare technology is the way they are going, building one huge ship for all species might be their only option.

 

You could also see how BioWare would like this for endgame stakes in the new game, as a threat targeting the Ark Ship is basically a much smaller scale of a "galactic threat" but with equally dire consequences.

[Nohvarr]

Haven't cracked how to make Reaper-tier cores, so that's not an option. 

They cracked the Thanix Canon, are you sure they haven't cracked this one near the end of the war, especially since the Crucible opened up new possibilites with their tech?

 

 

 

The liveships have to constantly be resupplied as well, and they have several of them. There are no such options in the void between galaxies, and only one ark ship.

 

They have three, and where are you getting the idea the live ships are being constantly resupplied?

 

 

 

If they mass produce this technology, it is an even bigger slap in the face of their established lore and technology.

 

Not sure why that would be, I mean once the Geth have the tech they can build that stuff as fast as you like. If the Geth aren't around the other races could at least make three of them, and that's all you'd need since the Liveships provide for millions of Quarians and there are only three of them.

[ZoliCs]

There doesn't, but based on Aaryn Flynn's post I think there will be. He talked about ~160 people being what you'd need for a sustainable population, and that you'd need to "build a pretty big ship" to accomodate them. It's unclear to me whether the Tempest would be the ark ship or your personal exploration ship, though.

 

Link? 160 seems low.

[Iakus]

That'd be 160 for one species, though, right?

 

Unless we really want to see what a quarian/krogan hybrid looks like...

[Iakus]

 

Dosen't have to be Reaper level to make it feasible, just getting within range changes the possibilities considerably.

 

You're still talking about a leap of drive core discharge every few weeks/months to centuries

[dreamgazer]

Unless we really want to see what a quarian/krogan hybrid looks like...

 

Don't tempt them.

 

Don't tempt this fanbase, either.

[Heimdall]

We weren't discussing core discharge. I said there were problems to overcome, and started with life support and necessities.

How will they reverse engineer stasis pods by the time the Reapers attack when they only discovered the ones on Ilos only two years ago.

And what about when they arrive? They have no idea if there will be food or water or air that can sustain them when they get there, so the ship will have to be the source of that.

We were discussing core discharge, then you started going off about life support as something Reapers didn't need without warning as if you thought it was relevant to the argument. But whatever...

Who's to say those were the first stasis pods discovered? The races of the galaxy have been studying Prothean tech for thousands of years. Maybe they just never had a pressing need to develope stasis pods. Perhaps the secret society in my scenario has been working on producing them for years, having discovered some themselves or gotten access to the beacon on Thessia.

As for when they arrive. Certainly the ships would need massive supply bays. Ideally they'd have facilities like the Liveships to help take the pressure off. Inevitably, it would be an issue though, you're right, but they could keep most of the passengers in stasis until they found a suitable planet to settle on.

[CronoDragoon]

Link? 160 seems low.

 

From http://genetics.thet...org/ask/ask113:

Conclusions. As you can see, this is a tough number to figure out. It all depends on the founders' genes. Too many "bad" genes with too few founders and you end up with a sickly group that probably won't survive. If you increase the number of people or decrease the number of "bad" genes, the group's chances go way up.

So, given the average number of bad genes in people, 160 is about the right number to give a good chance for survival. We'll have to build a pretty good-sized space ship to colonize another planet!
(Or maybe 70...a recent study at http://www.livescien...._settlers.html suggests that North America may have been settled by only 70 people!)"

More here - [/size][/background][/font]http://en.wikipedia....ce_colonization

[Nohvarr]

You're still talking about a leap of drive core discharge every few weeks/months to centuries

Our tech jumped ahead 200 years from the Prothean data store.....how far do you think it'll jump with access to Reaper tech?

[dreamgazer]

Link? 160 seems low.

 

Here's where GM Aaryn Flynn's head is at about the numbers (with sources):

 

http://www.neogaf.co...5#post160811725

[AresKeith]

Don't tempt them.

 

Don't tempt this fanbase, either.

 

We need to see what a Turian/Quarian Hybrid looks like first

[The Elder King]

About the Number of ships, if the leaked info are true the Krogans have their own colony ship.

[Iakus]

Our tech jumped ahead 200 years from the Prothean data store.....how far do you think it'll jump with access to Reaper tech?

Assuming it doesn't get loose and kill all our guys?

 

Plus, like I said before, if this stuff gets cracked post-war, you have rendered one or more endings noncanon.

[CronoDragoon]

We need to see what a Turian/Quarian Hybrid looks like first

 

[Iakus]

About the Number of ships, if the leaked info are true the Krogans have their own colony ship.

Unless you sabotage the genophage and get most of their remaining fertile females killed at Kelphic Valley of course...