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[ZoliCs]

Because they were tasked with one thing. Bringing "order to the chaos of evolution". They didn't just care about the Milky Way, but a wider abstract problem. And they were on a quest for a real solution. The Harvest wasn't their solution. But a temporary set up... until they found something better. It's why it perked up when you unlock synthesis. It wants new ideas like that. And if they were capable of going to other galaxies all this time, they would have been interested how others address the organic/synthetic problem.

 

http://masseffect.wi.../Reaper#Purpose

 

 

For millions of years, the Reapers existed for the sole purpose of ensuring the ongoing existence of organic life in the galaxy

[Heimdall]

Oooh! Can the Reapers come through the wormhole too?

maybe the wormhole will collapse as soon as they cross.

 

There was a game called Nexus: The Jupiter Incident that had that premise.  An Ark ship was sent through a wormhole only for it to collapse and was assumed destroyed.  A hundred years later, the PC flies through another wormhole and discovers that the survivors established a thriving colony and employ their military as mercenaries for their alien benefactors.

[CronoDragoon]

Oooh! Can the Reapers come through the wormhole too?

 

There's a magical anti-Reaper shield you see.

 

Spoiler

created by the Remnants

[7twozero]

How long was Javik asleep? How many stasis chambers were on Ilos? Y'all remember Ilos right? I'm sure a great deal of tech was harvested from Ilos and Javik's stasis pod.

Why not put everyone to sleep during the voyage?

Don't need Reaper tech for everything.

Around 50000 years wasn't it? Give or take a few weeks.

[Iakus]

There's new speculation that a wormhole might come into play

 

So do we get a choice to play Matthew MaConaughey or Anne Hathaway?

[ZoliCs]

maybe the wormhole will collapse as soon as they cross.

 

There was a game called Nexus: The Jupiter Incident that had that premise.  An Ark ship was sent through a wormhole only for it to collapse and was assumed destroyed.  A hundred years later, the PC flies through another wormhole and discovers that the survivors established a thriving colony and employ their military as mercenaries for their alien benefactors.

 

I'd prefer FTL over wormhole. I guess wormhole could work too if they actually do something with it, not just "We got here through a wormhole....end of story".

[Heimdall]

So now it's a just specific/concrete solution instead of a philosophical/abstract one? That all they're merely concerned about is being stewards of the Milky Way? And not all of this underlying stuff about synthetic conflict.

 

That just makes these crappy endings even more crappy than they are. They were supposed to be problem solvers. Not janitors.

See, it just doesn't really hold up if you think about it.  If the Reapers really had the resources to constantly monitor and purge advanced civilizations from every galaxy in the universe then there's no way we could have defeated them and there would be more Reapers on the way to finish the job anyway (Since there's no way they do this one galaxy at a time, there have to be multiple fleets).  The Reapers and the ending only make any sort of sense if they are confined to the jurisdiction of their creators.

[goishen]

Why are we taking the leaks so seriously?   It gives us something to talk about.  We're all little twelve year old school girls/boys running around the yard gossiping about something.

 

For once, I'm glad to have a place where I can be a twelve year old school boy gossiping about something.  God, that was a long time ago.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

http://masseffect.wi.../Reaper#Purpose

Remember the Codexes are written as the galaxy perceives the information, thus can be wrong. They referred to the Protheans as the builders of the Citadel and Mass Relays in ME1. The cycle has no idea if Reapers go to other galaxies, so for all they know it is just the Milky Way. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

See, it just doesn't really hold up if you think about it.  If the Reapers really had the resources to constantly monitor and purge advanced civilizations from every galaxy in the universe then there's no way we could have defeated them and there would be more Reapers on the way to finish the job anyway (Since there's no way they do this one galaxy at a time, there have to be multiple fleets).  The Reapers and the ending only make any sort of sense if they are confined to the jurisdiction of their creators.

Or the Reapers can only access the galaxies in our local galaxy group, meaning only about 3 big galaxies and a few dozen dwarf galaxies.

[Heimdall]

Or the Reapers can only access the galaxies in our local galactic cluster. 

If the Reapers truly have a universal mandate, why stop there?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If the Reapers truly have a universal mandate, why stop there?

Because even they have technological limits they haven't surpassed yet. 

[spinachdiaper]

I can see the coming NME advertising now...Got Reapers?

[dreamgazer]

maybe the wormhole will collapse as soon as they cross.

There's a magical anti-Reaper shield you see.
 

Spoiler

created by the Remnants

[Rosstoration]

Reapers had to build the relays in the first place, that means travelling across the entire galaxy just using FTL.

 

Harbinger is possible 4 billion years old, it's pretty safe to assume they branched out to other galaxies at some point, I think it was brought up during either Mass Effect 1 or 3, the question of if there are other reapers in other galaxies.

 

I'm guessing the dark energy dropped plot might rear it's head again and some Reaper super-relay might be able to catapult a ship by harnessing the dark energy of entire stars or something - like Haestrom. All speculation.

[Heimdall]

Because even they have technological limits they haven't surpassed yet. 

They've had millions of years, if they felt the need for a universal solution, I imagine they could have conjured it by now, maybe created a relay and sent it across the distance.

 

Besides, we already know the reapers spend the time between cycles between the galaxies in dark space.  Not taking a grand tour.  If there are other fleets, then the ME3 ending failed to end the threat and we're back to square one.

 

Really, it only makes sense that the Reapers be confined to the Milky Way.

[Heimdall]

Reapers had to build the relays in the first place, that means travelling across the entire galaxy just using FTL.

 

Harbinger is possible 4 billion years old, it's pretty safe to assume they branched out to other galaxies at some point, I think it was brought up during either Mass Effect 1 or 3, the question of if there are other reapers in other galaxies.

 

I'm guessing the dark energy dropped plot might rear it's head again and some Reaper super-relay might be able to catapult a ship by harnessing the dark energy of entire stars or something - like Haestrom. All speculation.

You're going to have to source that, because I'm fairly certain they haven't mentioned it.

 

And it isn't a safe assumption.  Why would it be?

[Iakus]

Reapers had to build the relays in the first place, that means travelling across the entire galaxy just using FTL.

 

Harbinger is possible 4 billion years old, it's pretty safe to assume they branched out to other galaxies at some point, I think it was brought up during either Mass Effect 1 or 3, the question of if there are other reapers in other galaxies.

 

I'm guessing the dark energy dropped plot might rear it's head again and some Reaper super-relay might be able to catapult a ship by harnessing the dark energy of entire stars or something - like Haestrom. All speculation.

So the Reapers have Tardis technology?

[laudable11]

The stasis isn't the issue there. This would be mobile, and FTL drives can't run continuously for hundreds of years. Not even the Reapers overcame this over millions of years. They would've gone to Andromeda if it was that simple.

They don't need to run for centuries. Hit maximum attainable FTL speed and "drift" whilst still accelerating due to Newton's law.

Also the pilgrims can use Prothean stasis tech to survive the centuries long journey.

As for breaking, that can be done in small increments months in advance of "touchdown". (clearly achievable with FTL drives)

So what's the problem...besides personal dislike?

[AresKeith]

It's not simply personal dislike. I don't care where the next game takes place per se. So long as I can make people drink their own poison, I'm cool.

 

But I'm trying to wrap my head around this. And this whole idea of the Reapers just caring about the Milky Way bothers me. It turns them into mere custodians.

 

They basically were deadly custodians