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[goishen]

If they do a ME:N 'Keep', I truly feel sorry for anyone having to program that logic.   I remember that dude from DA Keep saying woefully and very tired, "Yah, I'm the guy that programmed all of your choices into the logic engine."

[Karlone123]

It does actually. The Asari discovered the Citadel and founded the Council. The Citadel is practically an Asari colony that they later allowed other species to immigrate into. Having them be kicked off the Council might cater to a couple people on the BSN that really hate the faction, but realistically it doesn't make much sense. Wars don't typically end with the victors seeking sanctions against their allies. The Salarians shouldn't be getting kicked off either, despite the Dalatrass holding back Salarian resources for the war effort.

 

God bless the Turians for not holding back on anything.

[Pasquale1234]

Replace "the Council races" with "some Council race" and I agree. The Turians and Humans went balls out in the Reaper war, while the Asari were only protecting their own ass and Salarians were playing politics.

How soon we forget.

The Turians were too busy defending themselves until Shepard arranged for Krogan boots on Palaven.

"Tell you what, Shepard. Get us the best ground troops in the galaxy - you know, the guys we counted on to beat back the rachni threat a few centuries ago - and we'll throw some fleets your way. They're not too friendly toward us these days because of this little fertility adjustment thing we did to them. Oh, and then there's this bomb we secretly left on their planet."

[ZoliCs]

How soon we forget.

The Turians were too busy defending themselves until Shepard arranged for Krogan boots on Palaven.

"Tell you what, Shepard. Get us the best ground troops in the galaxy - you know, the guys we counted on to beat back the rachni threat a few centuries ago - and we'll throw some fleets your way. They're not too friendly toward us these days because of this little fertility adjustment thing we did to them. Oh, and then there's this bomb we secretly left on their planet."

 

Because they were the fist Council race to get hit next to the Humans. The difference is they had enough military strenght to actually defend their planet and not evacuate on day 1.

After that they even defended other race's homeworlds while their planet was on fire. In contrast to that the Asari and Salarians weren't hit first and they didn't give half a **** about other races.

[Iakus]

If they do a ME:N 'Keep', I truly feel sorry for anyone having to program that logic.   I remember that dude from DA Keep saying woefully and very tired, "Yah, I'm the guy that programmed all of your choices into the logic engine."

Especially given modded endings are also kinda popular....

[Pasquale1234]

Because they were the fist Council race to get hit next to the Humans. The difference is they had enough military strenght to actually defend their planet and not evacuate on day 1.

Yeah, I guess the human fleets retreated when they lost Arcturus to regroup - though Hackett does seem to talk about the human fleets reengaging.

I've often wondered how the Turians managed to continue to engage the reapers without taking unsustainable losses. I mean, Garrus even tells us they were losing multiple entire platoons at a time.
 

After that they even defended other race's homeworlds while their planet was on fire.

Well, the Volus are a Turian protectorate, so they have an obligation to defend them.
 

In contrast to that the Asari and Salarians weren't hit first and they didn't give half a **** about other races.

Salarian STG groups threw in with Hackett fairly early on. They might have been providing intel to the Turians, too. The codex (in ME1 at least) says the Turians rely on the Salarians for military intel (and the Asari for diplomacy). The Asari did not attend the first summit because they felt it would be a diplomatic nightmare, and they weren't wrong - the Dalatrass threw a hissy fit. There was a lot of reaper activity in Asari space very early on, and their fleets were defending their colonies. Ultimately, the Asari and Salarians were the only major races who committed support without first requiring Shepard to solve some problem for them.

But this is off-topic. My apologies.

[ZoliCs]

Yeah, I guess the human fleets retreated when they lost Arcturus to regroup - though Hackett does seem to talk about the human fleets reengaging.

I've often wondered how the Turians managed to continue to engage the reapers without taking unsustainable losses. I mean, Garrus even tells us they were losing multiple entire platoons at a time.

They had the largest military. There were more Turian Dreadnoughts than Asari and Salarian combined.

[The Elder King]

Especially given modded endings are also kinda popular....

I doubt they care much about them.
Though leaving for Androneda during the War might preserve them .

[Kabooooom]

They had the largest military. There were more Turian Dreadnoughts than Asari and Salarian combined.

Indeed. But beyond that, their entire society is militarized. Every Turian knew how to fight. They put up a hell of a resistance.

[Undead Han]

The Turians may have also been able to hold out, besides being so thoroughly militarized, because by the time Palaven was attacked the Reapers had also hit Illium, Khar'Shan, Earth, and possibly Irune as well. Add to the list probably lots of other colony worlds. With each planet the Reapers were probably losing ships for occupation, processing, subjugation of ongoing resistance, and the occasional battle casualty. By the time the Reapers hit Palaven the Reaper fleet was probably smaller than the one that had attacked Khar'Shan in the first days of the war.

[Shechinah]

I do not know if it has been mentioned but I believe it was said that because the turians had one of the largest fleets, the Reaper sent a larger force to counter it.

[Pasquale1234]

The Turians also had quite a bit of help. First the Krogan, and later Quarian / Geth support. Other races may have had support from the Quarians / Geth, but the situation I remember being specifically addressed involved Tali talking to a Turian on the Citadel, arranging for support from the Quarian fleet.

The other major races were mostly on their own - though they might have had some Quarian / Geth support after the Rannoch conflict was resolved.