It doesn't even trigger the final achievement, and you get everyone killed. Chalk that up to a non-transferable world state.
Afaik Shepard dying in ME2 was offically stated to be non-canon. No such statement I have seen about Refuse. So it's canon until stated otherwise.
Let's be honest, if there was the "middle finger" ending, it was that one. "Fine, you win, but everybody's dead ha!"
And that wouldn't make you angry? That's rather disrespecting to the choice if your Destroy ending gets railroaded together with Synthesis
I'd actually prefer a "noncanon-canon" ending. As long as my preferred ending is still available while playing ME3, why should I care?
And that wouldn't make you angry? That's rather disrespecting to the choice if your Destroy ending gets railroaded together with Synthesis
Not as much as ignoring it entirely and throwing it out like trash while they literally run away from it.
Let's be honest, if there was the "middle finger" ending, it was that one. "Fine, you win, but everybody's dead ha!"
And that wouldn't make you angry? That's rather disrespecting to the choice if your Destroy ending gets railroaded together with Synthesis
@imran911
First of, calm down with the caps man. There's really no point in using them and it's annoying more than anything.
I'm going to explain to you why I like the Ark Theory.
- It's connected to the Trilogy's story. Sending an Ark ship to another galaxy in case we fail to defeat the Reapers.
- It leaves what happens in the Milky Way after ME3 up to my imagination (up to a certain point of course)
- No need for a canon ending, which would frustrate alot of people.
- No need for a reboot/restart or whatever you want to call it.
- It brings even more new stuff in the MEU.
- The idea of sending people to colonize Andromeda is pretty amazing. Just to think of how they would organize themselves, who would lead them, etc.
- It allows Mass Effect to go forward.
- It's just a story among many others in the MEU.
It's not like the Milky Way is gone. Who knows, maybe in another Mass Effect game we'ĺl be in the Milky Way again.
When did the Ark project start?When did it all happen?How did it happen under our noses during the 3 previous games?
A project like like would take years and years and years to be implemented,it's a huge project.While we were playing ME1-3 and knew the Reapers were coming, the rest of the races had to learn it the hard way only at the very last minute.The whole Ark theory requires preparation, when did that happen?
I mean, the premise is interesting but they would have a LOT of explaining to do and it needs very good writing to get the stor to make sense.
I don't see how this is an implicit admission that they "screwed up"? They ended the Trilogy the way they wanted to end it back then. It was always intended for this to be the last Shepard game.
If the ME3 ending was super awesome and successful and fans loved it...Something tells me that they would have stayed in the Milky Way galaxy.
But that's just me.
Except it's not the same.
With the Ark they just bypass the Trilogy for a new fresh setting. Whatever choice you made in ME1-3 still happened in your Mass Effect.
If it's set in the Milky Way though they either make a canon Shepard, in which case your choices not just doesn't matter but actually erased, or they homogenize your choices. Considering the bitching about homogenizing some minor choices so far I can't imagine anyone (especially you who is constantly bitching) be happy with the later.
If you can't comprehend the difference there you are clueless.
Thanks, this is a nice succinct way to put it.
Except it's not the same. With the Ark they just bypass the Trilogy for a new fresh setting. Whatever choice you made in ME1-3 still happened in your Mass Effect.
If it's set in the Milky Way though they either make a canon Shepard, in which case your choices not just doesn't matter but actually erased, or they homogenize your choices. Considering the bitching about homogenizing some minor choices so far I can't imagine anyone (especially you who is constantly bitching) be happy with the later.
That's exactly how I see it too.
When did the Ark project start?When did it all happen?How did it happen under our noses during the 3 previous games?
A project like like would take years and years and years to be implemented,it's a huge project.While we were playing ME1-3 and knew the Reapers were coming, the rest of the races had to learn it the hard way only at the very last minute.The whole Ark theory requires preparation, when did that happen?
I mean, the premise is interesting but they would have a LOT of explaining to do and it needs very good writing to get the stor to make sense.
1. It would be a secret. There's no reason for Shepard to know about it, but there's more than a few why (s)he shouldn't.
2. It's not that big of a project. Most of the tech is already ready for it. They just need some upgrades.
When did the Ark project start?When did it all happen?How did it happen under our noses during the 3 previous games?
A project like like would take years and years and years to be implemented,it's a huge project.While we were playing ME1-3 and knew the Reapers were coming, the rest of the races had to learn it the hard way only at the very last minute.The whole Ark theory requires preparation, when did that happen?
I mean, the premise is interesting but they would have a LOT of explaining to do and it needs very good writing to get the stor to make sense.
We told the Council about Sovereign on Eden Prime, and when we met it again on Virmire.
The turian councilor was dismissive all throughout the trilogy, but I totally wouldn't put it past the asari to organise an ark contingency once they learned what happened to the Protheans. They hid the existence of the Prothean VI on Thessia for millennia.
As for secrecy, there are things that are "need-to-know". Shepard isn't even the most senior person in the Alliance, never mind the Council or the galaxy. As people have said there are plenty of reasons why they wouldn't be told about it, including not wanting to undermine the war effort.
An ark would only be used in the absolute worst case scenario, when all hope was lost and the extinction of every species was assured. For that reason, it would have to be the most secret thing in the galaxy. It's the ultimate back-up plan, and if it failed there wouldn't be any others.
The asari councilor even obliquely hints at something like an ark after Thessia, when she says she would need to put plans in motion to ensure the preservation of civilisation. They could easily use that one line as a way to introduce a secret asari ark project that is opened to some representatives of the other races.
Remember Farscape? The wormhole took Browder halfway across the galaxy. Or there are other space-time wormholes like in Star Trek timeline reboot. This is probably the story avenue they are going to take to create a separate story from the events in the Milky Way or create an alternate/concurrent reality, kind of like Fringe. A wormhole is a way to avoid the technology issues of the 150-500 year journey to the Andromeda Galaxy as well as any indoctrination issues by strapping Reaper tech onto ships.
The way the Krogan colony ship is mentioned makes me think this mission will be similar to the Battlestar reboot (there are reboots everywhere). My guess is the council will be maintained by having representatives from each species ship (Salarian, Human, Asari, Krogan, and whomever else) and perhaps other ships such as research and fuel vessels.
To me the most obvious point to start the preparations is the end of ME1. You've got Ilos with its bays of vacant functional cryo tubes which could be converted for use. Ilos is also likely to have tight security and secrecy due to its relay link to the Citadel. Then there's the whole weak argument about Sovereign. In Leviathan we learn humanity managed to secure enough of it to be pretty it was something extraordinary. The council working on a contingency plan in the event the Reapers do actually find another way would make them look more competent. I could see the Turian councillors personal feelings about the reaper threat as not stopping contingency being developed.
Keeping it secret from Shephard at all stages would make complete sense given the Reapers special focus on him.
The only individual they might have struggled to keep it a secret from is the Shadowbroker but he might very well have hidden all evidence to use as a bargaining chip in his later dealings with the Reapers/Collectors, hence Liara's lack of knowledge of it.
To me the most obvious point to start the preparations is the end of ME1. You've got Ilos with its bays of vacant functional cryo tubes which could be converted for use. Ilos is also likely to have tight security and secrecy due to its relay link to the Citadel. Then there's the whole weak argument about Sovereign. In Leviathan we learn humanity managed to secure enough of it to be pretty it was something extraordinary. The council working on a contingency plan in the event the Reapers do actually find another way would make them look more competent. I could see the Turian councillors personal feelings about the reaper threat as not stopping contingency being developed.
Keeping it secret from Shephard at all stages would make complete sense given the Reapers special focus on him.
The only individual they might have struggled to keep it a secret from is the Shadowbroker but he might very well have hidden all evidence to use as a bargaining chip in his later dealings with the Reapers/Collectors, hence Liara's lack of knowledge of it.
At least the MEHEM folks won't get too upset from the de-canonization of their fan-fic.
Yeah did seem to be so you don't want to deal with the brutalist, here ha ha.
Yeah I really don't want to see my ending and all my choices disrespected in order to hack the bloody corpse of the universe into a homogenised state.
Would be utterly cheap too.
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If the ME3 ending was super awesome and successful and fans loved it...Something tells me that they would have stayed in the Milky Way galaxy.
But that's just me.
You are right of course there is no proof but it seems likely
Bioware always does the same and goes to extremes
DA2 was not well received so they just went in a completely new direction with Inquisition
ME3 wasn't liked that much either and all that controversy with the endings made them do a reboot of the franchise so its not connected anymore
At least the MEHEM folks won't get too upset from the de-canonization of their fan-fic.
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