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Just a heads-up: could mean nothing, but BioWare's Aaryn Flynn posted a science-y reply in the leak-related thread on GAF.


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#51
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Remember, that if the leak was a hoax (Case:Survivor 2299) then the devs would straight up deny any and all involment in it.

This hasn't happened.

Survivor 2299 was not denied right away. It went for quite some time until the devs debunked it.

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I was already leaning towards believing that the leak is accurate but I don't know what to make of this. It could be evidence of the leak's accuracy, or it could be AF just screwing with the fans.

 

TBH, since DAI I've been worried about there being a huge tonal shift in NME. This leak has only got me more worried but I can't wait to see some more details about this game. I'm very eager to have my pessimism disproved.



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The leak killed any excitement I had for the game. It sounds like Inqusition 2.0 and this was a very shallow and boring game. Please Bioware, don't turn my 2nd favorite gaming franchise into a Dragon Age ripoff.


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The Andromeda scenario is disgusting on so many levels. Leaving the Milky Way is the worst idea for a sequel they could have come up with.


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The leak killed any excitement I had for the game. It sounds like Inqusition 2.0 and this was a very shallow and boring game. Please Bioware, don't turn my 2nd favorite gaming franchise into a Dragon Age ripoff.


Who do You think it Seems a DA ripoff?

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I was already leaning towards believing that the leak is accurate but I don't know what to make of this. It could be evidence of the leak's accuracy, or it could be AF just screwing with the fans.

 

 

I'm almost certain the leak is accurate now, evidence is mounting.  

 

We had the post on twitter of the ARKCON Pathfinder Initiative Logo

 

twitter.com/Faburisu/status/532993438799519744

 

A twitter post on N7 Day of a strange looking relay that resembles the pattern on that logo

 

http://i.imgur.com/vO4vqtZ.jpg

 

Then we have the development images of the Galaxy map - it looks more like the Andromeda Galaxy than the Milky Way.  

 

Then we had the leak, whose reddit account was subsequently deleted.

 

Now we have Flynn debating the feasibility of long term interstellar colonisation depending upon the number of colonists and the genetic diversity.  



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The Andromeda scenario is disgusting on so many levels. Leaving the Milky Way is the worst idea for a sequel they could have come up with.

 

The trouble is they can't keep everybody happy any more because so many people seem to have unrealistic expectations.  Some people demanded that it had to be a sequel, a prequel was a big no no, yet many of the same people also wanted ME4 to take into account their ending to ME3, in other words they either wanted bioware to produce several separate games that would take into account the divergent endings to ME3 or they wanted the developers to canonise their specific ending to cater specifically to them.

 

I've said several times to people that we can either have a prequel set in the Milky Way, or we can have a sequel that's set in an unexplored region of space or so far in the future that it's very different to the Mass Effect we remember.  Yet it fell on deaf ears and people were still demanding a sequel and still expecting more than Bioware could deliver.  

 

Personally I'm not opposed to the new Galaxy route they are going down, but in all honesty I would have preferred a prequel set in the Milky Way because I felt there was a lot more exploring to do and a lot more stories to tell.  



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The Andromeda scenario is disgusting on so many levels. Leaving the Milky Way is the worst idea for a sequel they could have come up with.

 

Hahaha the reactions to it are amazing though.


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Hahaha the reactions to it are amazing though.

Meltdowns already delivering

 

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Now we have Flynn debating the feasibility of long term interstellar colonization depending upon the number of colonists and the genetic diversity.  

 

Great, more 'genetic diversity'.

 

So is that why we will only see humans featured in a significant capacity in ME:Next? Only we had the genetic chops to make it in the new galaxy, everyone else became inbred and died out?



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Great, more 'genetic diversity'.
 
So is that why we will only see humans featured in a significant capacity in ME:Next? Only we had the genetic chops to make it in the new galaxy, everyone else became inbred and died out?

There are other races. We saw a krogan at E3, and the leak mentions a krogan colony.

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The leak killed any excitement I had for the game. It sounds like Inqusition 2.0 and this was a very shallow and boring game. Please Bioware, don't turn my 2nd favorite gaming franchise into a Dragon Age ripoff.

Same for me :( Yes Bioware we dont want Inqusition copy paste 2.0 in space with boring and predictable story and ending.and for me 7 crew members are small number,8 is good 10 is best :)



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There are other races. We saw a krogan at E3, and the leak mentions a krogan colony.

 

 

But only the Krogan though. Yes, chances are that we will get other fan favorites, but is everyone else that didn't make the cut going to be left to rot in the milky way and/or replaced with knock-off Andromeda versions of themselves? 

 

So instead of the Batarians we get the 'Not-Batarians' or Khet, instead of the Protheans/Reapers we get the 'Not Protheans/Reapers' or the Remnant. Etc.



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So instead of the Batarians we get the 'Not-Batarians' or Khet, instead of the Protheans/Reapers we get the 'Not Protheans/Reapers' or the Remnant. Etc.

 

We know literally nothing about those two species.

 

The way people are overreacting to this is hilarious. 


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If this is true, I'll be 100% done with Bioware for rest of my life.

 

Guys, guys, I'm thinking of starting some sort of melodrama leaderboard. Do you think that thread would get closed?


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We know literally nothing about those two species.

 

The way people are overreacting to this is hilarious. 

 

 

True, but the way that the Khet are described in that survey leak sure paints them as the raider/slaver/pirate archetype that the Batarians originally held in the setting. There is only so many concepts and ideas that can go around when creating alien species before you start to have overlap. 

 

Yes, I am overreacting (I will try and calm down a bit) but I just don't see how BioWare plans to populate an entirely new galaxy and not have one or more of the new species they create winding up as essentially a re-skin of a species from the first 3 games. I mean people weren't too happy with the 'Not-Mordin' the 'Not-Rachni Queen' and the 'Not Legion' characters in ME 3, how will they react to that being (potentially) applied to an entire alien species?


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It would help if you didn't take that 'survey' (without an NDA... it was a RANDOM survey! RANDOM!) for real.

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Same for me :( Yes Bioware we dont want Inqusition copy paste 2.0 in space with boring and predictable story and ending.and for me 7 crew members are small number,8 is good 10 is best :)

While I'd like more companions, only in Me2 We had more them 7 squadmates.
The Fact that the active party is still limited to 3 members including the MC might've influenced this.

Bioware's main plot aren't generally original (and the ME trilogy is the same).

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It would help if you didn't take that 'survey' (without an NDA... it was a RANDOM survey! RANDOM!) for real.

 

 

Isn't the whole point of this thread about discussing the supposed leak? I am just posting my opinion on the leak (if) the survey happens to be true, no point in talking about what we don't know.

 

If nothing else, debates like this help show how the fan base would react to a particular scenario. My stance on said scenario is that I don't care for it.



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Isn't the whole point of this thread about discussing the supposed leak? I am just posting my opinion on the leak (if) the survey happens to be true, no point in talking about what we don't know.
 
If nothing else, debates like this help show how the fan base would react to a particular scenario. My stance on said scenario is that I don't care for it.


I think there's nothing to debate. Have you seen the thread in which the survey was leaked?

The guy claims he does random surveys for some extra cash. Guy also claims there was no NDA.

Ok, cool. Why would Bioware or EA drop this survey on people who don't necesarily play games? Why not enforce an NDA?

It reeks. From every crack and orrifice.

edit: http://www.reddit.co...vey_about_mass/

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Isn't the whole point of this thread about discussing the supposed leak? I am just posting my opinion on the leak (if) the survey happens to be true, no point in talking about what we don't know.

 

If nothing else, debates like this help show how the fan base would react to a particular scenario. My stance on said scenario is that I don't care for it.

 

I get what you are saying, but I don't think BioWare really can "win" at all because of what happens at the very end of Mass Effect 3.  A lot of the complaints about what might happen with an ark ship can also be applied to advancing the galaxy too many years.  I also doubt people would want a direct sequel that would either picking one of the three endings and going from there or streamlining the end of ME3 so all three endings could happen.  So no matter what they do people are going to be upset and say the same things.

 

Now I think people might be looking too closely on each rumor specifically.  To me I doubt that BioWare is going to advance the time frame too much because it would require basically starting over and all the lore is gone and continuing right after the effects of Mass Effect 3 would be major problems too for they would definitely be accused of "my decisions don't matter" because they would have to try and make a single game that encompasses all three choices at the end of pick one to continue the game from (the worst option in my opinion).

 

Personally I am getting a Titan A.E. feel from all the comments from BioWare and the leaked information that may or may not be true combine that with something like Star Trek Voyager .  So you would have an ark ship that leaves our galazy around the time of Mass Effect 1 and they go through a Mass Relay that has no known connection back home for the long distance relays are single directional.  The ark ship aspect is that they have taken several people from the different species on the Council to keep that part of the lore alive.  Now depending on how something like that works out I think they could easily have a similar feel to previous Mass Effect games because to me at least the lore was more about the characters you interacted with and not the places.  Of course I am probably 100% wrong because I just came up with this idea reading this thread, but still anything is possible.



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Personally I am getting a Titan A.E. feel from all the comments from BioWare and the leaked information that may or may not be true combine that with something like Star Trek Voyager .  So you would have an ark ship that leaves Earth around the time of Mass Effect 1 and they go through a Mass Relay that has no known connection back home for the long distance relays are single directional.  The ark ship aspect is that they have taken several people from the different species on the Council to keep that part of the lore alive.  Now depending on how something like that works out I think they could easily have a similar feel to previous Mass Effect games because to me at least the lore was more about the characters you interacted with and not the places.  Of course I am probably 100% wrong because I just came up with this idea reading this thread, but still anything is possible.


As if that wouldn't break the lore.

Using relays with no known destination is forbidden, remember? The Rachni, the First Contact War.

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So what would be the problem with not worrying and enjoying the game for what it is, when it eventually arrives?

I had a ton of fun with DAI, so I'm looking forward to driving around even larger regions in the SP and MP next Mass Effect.


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As if that wouldn't break the lore.

Using relays with no known destination is forbidden, remember? The Rachni, the First Contact War.

 

I didn't or forgot, but then they could always just destroy the relay. I am not saying anything is true for who knows what is really going to happen, for all we know he decided to use his knowledge on sustainable populations to join in the discussion.



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Yeah, he's been around the DA forums for awhile now.

Ah, so that's why he brought up the "heroism" in Modern Warfare 3's ending in that melodramatic DAI ending thread. It all makes sense now.

On topic, I'm not sure if this leak is true or not, but I'm also not sure what some people are expecting as far as continuing the franchise goes. ME3's endings greatly limited possibilities. Something is going to have to be done to get around that issue.