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Just a heads-up: could mean nothing, but BioWare's Aaryn Flynn posted a science-y reply in the leak-related thread on GAF.


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#76
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So what would be the problem with not worrying and enjoying the game for what it is, when it eventually arrives?

I had a ton of fun with DAI, so I'm looking forward to driving around even larger regions in the SP and MP next Mass Effect.

 

That isn't the BSN way.


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Relays are supposedly indestructible, according to the ME1 lore. I think people would've already tried throwing asteroids at them. Heck, the codex says they can survive a supernova intact,

 

Arrival shows that they're not indescrutible, but it was a silly piece of retconning that I think should be quietly ignored if they ever set something in the Milky Way again. 

 

(Because if Arrival is true and relays can be destroyed by an asteroid, why the hell haven't more been destroyed by random natural asteroid impacts over the millions of years since their construction? And surely people would've already tried firing large things at them when they first noticed the "indestructability")


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Relays are supposedly indestructible, according to the ME1 lore. I think people would've already tried throwing asteroids at them. Heck, the codex says they can survive a supernova intact,

 

Arrival shows that they're not indescrutible, but it was a silly piece of retconning that I think should be quietly ignored if they ever set something in the Milky Way again. 

 

(Because if Arrival is true and relays can be destroyed by an asteroid, why the hell haven't more been destroyed by random natural asteroid impacts over the millions of years since their construction? And surely people would've already tried firing large things at them when they first noticed the "indestructability")

 

I really don't remember much Mass Effect lore, so I am going to just concede that I spent a whole five minutes coming up with that theory and really don't want to put more thought into it. :)



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So what would be the problem with not worrying and enjoying the game for what it is, when it eventually arrives?

I had a ton of fun with DAI, so I'm looking forward to driving around even larger regions in the SP and MP next Mass Effect.

Because the Mass Effect series is a wildly inconsistent franchise, and this would take it up to eleven.

 

I enjoyed DAI too, despite some problems with the gameplay.  But at least it felt like Dragon Age.  This description sounds like "generic sf adventure #2301



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That isn't the BSN way.

 

That's true  :D

(doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice)

 

Let's face it, BioWare rather painted themselves into a corner with ME3.

After initial concern I've come to terms with Control as a reasonable (and ironic) ending to ME3.

(Though I have so much galactic readiness from multiplayer that I could have any ending after 5 minutes, if it would let me ;) ).

 

As far as the next instalment is concerned, there will be some highly invested individuals who whatever BioWare do next, will throw a vocal and melodramatic 'I'm done' (hopefully not accompanied by endless whining about their retirement on the forums).

 

A good slice of BioWare's customers for the next ME will not have been on board when ME1 was released, and as this will be a mass market release I don't expect a hardcore approach that will alienate casual gamers. It will not be AAA HD PoE in space, it just won't be.



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(Because if Arrival is true and relays can be destroyed by an asteroid, why the hell haven't more been destroyed by random natural asteroid impacts over the millions of years since their construction? And surely people would've already tried firing large things at them when they first noticed the "indestructability")


You don't know if it never happened before. Just because you don't see, doesn't mean it's not happening. It very possible that it has happened in previous cycles or even in our own cycle while we were not spacefaring.
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That's true  :D

(doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice)

 

Let's face it, BioWare rather painted themselves into a corner with ME3.

After initial concern I've come to terms with Control as a reasonable (and ironic) ending to ME3.

(Though I have so much galactic readiness from multiplayer that I could have any ending after 5 minutes, if it would let me ;) ).

 

As far as the next instalment is concerned, there will be some highly invested individuals who whatever BioWare do next, will throw a vocal and melodramatic 'I'm done' (hopefully not accompanied by endless whining about their retirement on the forums).

 

A good slice of BioWare's customers for the next ME will not have been on board when ME1 was released, and as this will be a mass market release I don't expect a hardcore approach that will alienate casual gamers. It will not be AAA HD PoE in space, it just won't be.

 

I do agree and I know there is going to be a group of people that will be here extremely upset on launch day about how "BioWare betrayed us with this crazy idea that doesn't many any sense".

 

If this is anything like the leak that happened with Mass Effect 3 with the "leaked script" things can change and this might have been an early idea.



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If this is anything like the leak that happened with Mass Effect 3 with the "leaked script" things can change and this might have been an early idea.

 

Has to be said, BioWare's record with leaks is not exactly stellar,

not necessarily due to reasons within their control...



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Firing off a long-form survey (quite different from the Inquisition one) to random participants that fleshes out several pages of mechanics and setting details was, assuredly, within BioWare's control. I still smell shenanigans.
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That isn't the BSN way.

 

I just had to comment after this.  I whole-heartedly agree with this sentiment.  The meltdowns I have seen in the last hour after reading about the leak on GS have reached Three-Mile Island level of heat, and quickly approaching Chernobyl-level.  After 2 years of barely reading these forums I find it hillarious that this is still the status quo.

 

You can count me as someone who abolutely hated the endings to ME3, it was a gut-punch.  And you can also count me as having absolutely no problem with this new direction if it is true.  It would be a soft-reboot, but with how they let Hudson paint them into a corner with the ME3 endings they had little if any choice.  The outcomes were so wildly varying that they would have had to cannonize one, which would have inevitably pissed off all the other supporters.  Synth would have been out, because, come on... So it would probably have been down to Destroy or Control.  Refuse would have put them into the same situation as the Ark option, just like Protheans on Ilos, only in the Ark option you can actually have a much larger group of survivors, include as many of the major races as you want, and explore an entirely new setting.

 

My money is on there being a secret Ark program by the Asari and/or Silarians incase the main plan failed.  Which would be totally believable IMO based on those two race's motivations.  Once the relay network gets shut down and the Citadel gets transported to Earth they give the green light to leave.  That way you can have the Quarians/Geth and at least some cured Krogans, but sidestep the messy problem with the endings. 

 

Anyway, thats just my two cents on the matter.


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Firing off a long-form survey (quite different from the Inquisition one) to random participants that fleshes out several pages of mechanics and setting details was, assuredly, within BioWare's control. I still smell shenanigans.


Which is what I have been saying for a while now... but everyone just keep ignoring it and acting like this is 'the real deal' because some dude with a cult following on a forum sent some emails (to who?) and got confirmation (from someone at EA/BW who apparantly would love to lose his/her job).

It reeks. From every crack and orrifice.

But this is the BSN. We'd rather get upset about maybes then wait for some solid information.

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I mean c'mon people. This was a random survey for random people. Not gamers, RANDOM PEOPLE.

I lack the words to express how stupid that is. So here, have some more gifs:

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My money is on there being a secret Ark program by the Asari


ME3 heavily implies this after Thessia in the conversation with the Asari councilor.
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So about 160 people were sent out on an expedition to colonize a new galaxy...possibly



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You don't know if it never happened before. Just because you don't see, doesn't mean it's not happening. It very possible that it has happened in previous cycles or even in our own cycle while we were not spacefaring.

 

True, I guess.

 

My point was more that they were initially written to be indestructible and everlasting, and then that got dropped because somebody decided it was cool to make one explode and kill 300,000 batarians. In a DLC that looked to be designed solely as an excuse to have Shepard back on Earth for the start of the third game.

 

(And to make it even less consequential, the colony's destruction was given like three lines of dialogue in ME3, and we never even had a trial or anything at the start of the game, so they ruined the mass relay lore for no reason.)

 

(Oh, and Arrival's "mass relay destruction wipes out a solar system" was one of the main reasons some fans freaked out about the first version of the endings that supposedly destroyed the entire galaxy, so Bioware's writers shot themselves in the foot *twice* because of one lousy decision and a criminal lack of foresight.)



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ME3 heavily implies this after Thessia in the conversation with the Asari councilor.


Yes, what is it she says? Something about "continuity of civilization" needing to be assured, I think.
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#91
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Yes, what is it she says? Something about "continuity of civilization" needing to be assured, I think.

 

Darn, maybe this possible plot line was hiding in plain sight?



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I'd like to know where the Asari kept an Eezo core the size of a star hidden. And how it didn't bring the galactic economy and infrastructure down in the process of its construction. Or how their civilization was even able to built it since it would take hundreds of thousands of years to build something of that size, despite them only being around for less than fifty thousand. 



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I'd like to know where the Asari kept an Eezo core the size of a star hidden. And how it didn't bring the galactic economy and infrastructure down in the process of its construction. Or how their civilization was even able to built it since it would take hundreds of thousands of years to build something of that size, despite them only being around for less than fifty thousand. 

 

wat


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Why would Bioware or EA drop this survey on people who don't necesarily play games? Why not enforce an NDA?

Why are you asking us? Everyone thinks it's silly and basically asking yourself for a leak and yet all publishers do it all. the. time. for their big games and we have dozen of leaks like this for different games every year



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I would say that given all of the hub-bub, I would expect Bioware folks to be very careful about what they post/say, etc.  

 

In other words: If all of this was just patently false, I wouldn't expect him to chime in. 

 

Or he could be trolling. LOL



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I would say that given all of the hub-bub, I would expect Bioware folks to be very careful about what they post/say, etc.  

 

In other words: If all of this was just patently false, I wouldn't expect him to chime in. 

 

Or he could be trolling. LOL

 

Maybe he's learning from Ed Boon :P


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wat

What's confusing you about that? 



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If there are Krogan on the Ark are they cured of the genophage?

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Given the state of technology, I don't think genetic diversity would be an issue. Sperm banks and frozen embryos would be easy to take along, and could provide broad genetic diversity.

They also have genetic modification technology.

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Why?

They don't have to. If people want to go all nuts on unoffical information, that's their problem, not EA's or BW's.

Hell, they might even be glad people are discussing things that aren't true.




I agree plus this is good for them people are not stalking the next mass effect even harder now lol I dare say its getting more popular then DAI .