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Just a heads-up: could mean nothing, but BioWare's Aaryn Flynn posted a science-y reply in the leak-related thread on GAF.


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#101
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I'd like to know where the Asari kept an Eezo core the size of a star hidden. And how it didn't bring the galactic economy and infrastructure down in the process of its construction. Or how their civilization was even able to built it since it would take hundreds of thousands of years to build something of that size, despite them only being around for less than fifty thousand.


Making a looot of assumptions, there.
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Man, I don't know how to feel about this... everything that we know, planets, cultures, locations and characters are going to be literally be removed from existence if the rumors are right. They're basically doing a "soft" reboot of the Mass Effect franchise.

It's hard to let all the characters from the past trilogy go, but the whole Milky Way? Damn son....

IT'S A RESTART BRAHHH.... I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS FOR thie PAZT MONTH NO budy LIZEN TO ME

 

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When I saw that "survey," I knew it would spread like wildfire. Now anybody from BioWare mentions anything somewhat related to this leak and people jump to the conclusion "it's confirmed," "reboot," "ME3 ending sucked after all," "goodbye Milky Way," etc. It's worth noting that Aaryn Flynn isn't a developer. He is the head of BioWare Canada (Edmonton and Montreal). Obviously, he knows what's currently happening with the development of the next Mass Effect. However, that doesn't necessarily mean anything he says is meant to be remotely related. Many are still forgetting about the Casey Hudson IP that is supposedly going to be announced soon. We have no idea what that's about yet. Either way, this is dangerous territory playing with fire. People are going to get burned one way or the other. I'd wait for official confirmation before anybody takes this stuff too seriously.



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Why are you asking us? Everyone thinks it's silly and basically asking yourself for a leak and yet all publishers do it all. the. time. for their big games and we have dozen of leaks like this for different games every year


It would be like asking a vegetarian how he'd like his steak.

In other words: it's utter bull*bleep*. If you do a survey like that, you're going to at least ask gamers, not random nitwits in need for some extra cash doing surveys about anything and everything.
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It would be like asking a vegetarian how he'd like his steak.

In other words: it's utter bull*bleep*. If you do a survey like that, you're going to at least ask gamers, not random nitwits in need for some extra cash doing surveys about anything and everything.

Exactly. I receive surveys from EA and Ubisoft all the time about games because I am a gamer. I seriously doubt they'd send them to random people over the internet who many not even be the demographic they are after. I'm not even certain anyone would even know what Mass Effect is outside of gamers. There are just too many holes in this story that it doesn't seem believable. The simple fact is the poster took what is a highly popular theory among some on BSN and placed a fire under it calling it "the next Mass Effect." Now, all of the Ark purist diehards have come out of the shadows and are claiming this is the game. It's a shame because the Mass Effect forums were actually being quite productive until this nonsense spread. Now every other thread is Andromeda this and Ark theory that.


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Exactly. I receive surveys from EA and Ubisoft all the time about games because I am a gamer. I seriously doubt they'd send them to random people over the internet who many not even be the demographic they are after. I'm not even certain anyone would even know what Mass Effect is outside of gamers. There are just too many holes in this story that it doesn't seem believable. The simple fact is the poster took what is a highly popular theory among some on BSN and placed a fire under it calling it "the next Mass Effect." Now, all of the Ark purist diehards have come out of the shadows and are claiming this is the game. It's a shame because the Mass Effect forums were actually being quite productive until this nonsense spread. Now every other thread is Andromeda this and Ark theory that.

Ah well bro... if you and I can't beat them might as well join them. I would like to colonize a blazing hot sun an build a huge bbq grill on it.



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Ah well bro... if you and I can't beat them might as well join them. I would like to colonize a blazing hot sun an build a huge bbq grill on it.

Join the lunatics on here? No thanks. I'll just patiently wait for BioWare to actually release the real information about the game and put all of this to rest. It's also a fair point to add, if the survey was true, why would a BioWare representative even remotely comment on it? Even if it's indirect? It's common tactics to avoid any an all discussion on a product until you are ready to reveal it. Again, questions.


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If we have space stripers like before, I'm cool.
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BioWare can either:

A ) Canonize an ending and hope to build a satisfying sequel off that

 

B ) Actually go forward with IT (or steal it depending on your leanings on it) and make an actually satisfying conclusion for the series

 

C ) Decide the endings fucked up the galaxy so much, and were so wildly varied that they're just gonna give up and go to an entirely new galaxy

 

If you know me you know which option I'd prefer, but either A or B are good. If they go for C it will just be embarrassing.

 

I disagree.

 

Making an ending canon would invalidate too many peoples endings. I can't image anyone would end up happy about an ME ending being forced upon them.

 

Personally, I think the 'synthesis' has huge potential to make a really interesting future for the Milky Way Galaxy, but I know I'll never see it because it would mean BioWare would have to canonise an ending.

 

Canonsing an ending would've made all the games with save transfer easier and they have never done it, so I don't think they'll do it now.

 

As for IT, it is a fan theory, can you imagine the backlash BioWare would suffer if they stole a fan theory? The forums & twitter would explore.  

 

I'm also sure that they began writing the story for NextEffect before ME3 was even finished, so their planned storyline would have to be changed completely to use IT.

 

I actually think the idea that the NextEffect takes place in another galaxy is an interesting way to allow players to keep their endings from ME3 & at the same time, not have to deal with them much.

 

Full Disclaimer though: I'm a huge Voyager Fan, so the idea of a ship full of people from the Milky Way exploring a new galaxy, with little to no contact with their home, really appeals to me.  



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Whatevs man when's it out so I can have it?


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If this Ark theory is true I'm thinking we would be the leader of hundreds of pilgrims. Human and alien.

Seems like there will be more than one ship.

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If this Ark theory is true I'm thinking we would be the leader of hundreds of pilgrims. Human and alien.

Seems like there will be more than one ship.

 

If so, they should be called the Bretonia, the Rheinland, the Kusari and the Liberty.


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If we are really going to Andromeda, then EVERYONE needs to make the trip. We need representatives from every species that we encountered, save for the Leviathans because the whole "We're responsible for the Reapers." thing and mind control.


If the jump to Andromeda is needed because of the endings, fine, but bring everyone with us to the new setting so we can at least have the people of mass effect if not the structure of it.

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It's an interesting response...

 

Provided it's Andromeda, and no idea if the "Rules of the Milky Way" apply to this galaxy.  But then again, BioWare has free control to design Andromeda in whichever fashion they so choose.

 

They may need more than 160, given its a completely different galaxy....



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I actually don't care what Aaryn Flynn says. I already miss Casey Hudson.

 

 

Flynn accepted one of those DAI awards with the statement "It's Bioware's return to form". It sounds like he's no different than a lot of fans who complained about DA2 and ME3. I'd rather see a company stick to their guns, instead of this type of pandering (I had about my complaints about ME3, but come to peace with it. And liked DA2 much more than DAI).


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I actually don't care what Aaryn Flynn says. I already miss Casey Hudson.

 

 

Flynn accepted one of those DAI awards with the statement "It's Bioware's return to form". It sounds like he's no different than a lot of fans who complained about DA2 and ME3. I'd rather see a company stick to their guns, instead of this type of pandering (I had about my complaints about ME3, but come to peace with it. And liked DA2 much more than DAI).

 

:rolleyes:


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:rolleyes:

 

Saying it's a return to form is pandering to haters. It's admitting that they're really the failure some think they are.

 

I say be proud of your work. There's no reason to eyeroll at that.


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Saying it's a return to form is pandering to haters. It's admitting that they're really the failure some think they are.

 

I say be proud of your work. There's no reason to eyeroll at that.

It seems to be Ares' thing right now. I guess he's decided to start trolling by just posting  :rolleyes: s. 



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Saying it's a return to form is pandering to haters. It's admitting that they're really the failure some think they are.
 
I say be proud of your work. There's no reason to eyeroll at that.

So, never admit when you've made mistakes?

Besides, the success of DAI relative to its predecessor would seem to validate his position.

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So, never admit when you've made mistakes?

Besides, the success of DAI relative to its predecessor would seem to validate his position.

 

I don't know how much of a success it is, except in the press.

 

Nothing wrong with admitting mistakes. It's that particular phrase that annoys me. "Return to form". 



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As for IT, it is a fan theory, can you imagine the backlash BioWare would suffer if they stole a fan theory? The forums & twitter would explore.  

Yet then doing the Ark Theory would be perfectly accepted? 



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I disagree.

 

Making an ending canon would invalidate too many peoples endings. I can't image anyone would end up happy about an ME ending being forced upon them.

 

Personally, I think the 'synthesis' has huge potential to make a really interesting future for the Milky Way Galaxy, but I know I'll never see it because it would mean BioWare would have to canonise an ending.

 

Canonsing an ending would've made all the games with save transfer easier and they have never done it, so I don't think they'll do it now.

 

As for IT, it is a fan theory, can you imagine the backlash BioWare would suffer if they stole a fan theory? The forums & twitter would explore.  

 

I'm also sure that they began writing the story for NextEffect before ME3 was even finished, so their planned storyline would have to be changed completely to use IT.

 

I actually think the idea that the NextEffect takes place in another galaxy is an interesting way to allow players to keep their endings from ME3 & at the same time, not have to deal with them much.

 

Full Disclaimer though: I'm a huge Voyager Fan, so the idea of a ship full of people from the Milky Way exploring a new galaxy, with little to no contact with their home, really appeals to me.  

they should canonize Destroy and classify the other endings as nontransferable world states, like Shepard dying in the SM of ME2



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Eurogamer video on the leak:



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... gimme a ship, a mako, a new region to explore with my ragtag band of misfits, a likeable new Hero, a decent plot, and some aesthetically pleasing new (and likeable) squadettes and I'm a happy space marine =) I was excited about this "leak" before but now its just a flame war with little actual discussion about what we know. I think I'll wait another 60 or so days until E3 (Spirits hoping that is when Bioware decides to break the silence and BS twitter posts) before I gush too much.


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Eurogamer video on the leak:


At the beginning they just say it seems legit and in the middle they say it sounds like a Bioware game, because there seem to be dragon age and mass effect things slapped together.

I dont get why they dont question this AT ALL when it clearly sounds like a Fan mixing DA and ME with ark theory.