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Un-invited to Ark! Place your bets which races ain't gonna make the list


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Leviathans - too fat, dictatorship tendencies

Vorcha - too low IQ

 

 

Who else ain't making it in your opinion?

 



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The Geth and the Quarians, so BW doesn't have to deal with those races still existing or not.


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Vorcha - too low IQ

Vorcha are definitely with the ark. Who else do you send outside to push, when the fuel runs low?

 

*hysterically laughing as the eezo core discharges :devil: *

 

Probably Quarians and Geth. They are all dead, all dead.  Or have a happy homeworld, basically the same, right?!

Likely rachni won't make too *sniff* :crying:


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Humans.  They tend to draw the attention of those infinitely their greater. 

 

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Geth

Yahg

Qunari Quarians maybe, depends I guess



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Geth and quarians might be Left behind by Bioware to not deal With the various outcomes, though it's possible they found ways To bring Them back regardless of the choices in ME3.
I think Some of the relatively minor Citadel races might not be in.

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Geth and quarians might be Left behind by Bioware to not deal With the various outcomes, though it's possible they found ways To bring Them back regardless of the choices in ME3.
I think Some of the relatively minor Citadel races might not be in.

Unless the ark left before Rannoch decision. I'm having a hard time buying they would cut the Geth out of new Trilogy, they're highly popular synthetic race, hard feat to pull in sci-fi.


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asari - they didn't care about the other species in ME3 so the other species will kick their sorry fifth point of contact off the ship


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Elcor. Not the Volus, they could be important to the new economy in Andromeda. Also, they are the species of the Biotic God!
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Unless the ark left before Rannoch decision. I'm having a hard time buying they would cut the Geth out of new Trilogy, they're highly popular synthetic race, hard feat to pull in sci-fi.


That's what I meant with 'They found ways'.

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That's what I meant with 'They found ways'.

Well, they can always just 'sneak' on the Ark and hide themselves in vendor machine hardware. Software afterall



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Would the geth even care about being aboard this ark, assuming they could get its participants to trust them? 



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Geth, yahg, rachni

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Would the geth even care about being aboard this ark, assuming they could get its participants to trust them? 

 

Well they were also afraid of being destroyed by the Reapers, so I guess they would

 

If was able to atleast 



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The Geth and the Quarians, so BW doesn't have to deal with those races still existing or not.

removing the Quarians would be a bad idea? if there's anyone who has good knowledge about scrap metal and ship repairs accurately and efficiently Quarians has them


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Here is my opinion (and first post!).  Based off of the unconfirmed, but highly possible leak, I can reason that the majority of the races from the milky way will be in the next game.  In the E3 2014 conceptual prototype (as seen here ) the Krogan are a confirmed race. And we can assume Krogan will be in Mass Effect: Next, in the reddit article.

 

Asari, would also have to be in the game. In the article it mentions a biotic ability.  The race that is naturally adept at this ability are the Asari.  I also believe Quarian (hopefully without their suits -- and depending on if the developers decided to keep Quarians alive) will be in the game.

 

A couple races that I think would not get the "invite" would be the Batarians and Vorcha.



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If we are talking about fan favorites, and races that don't have widely divergent outcomes based on the players' choices I can only see Humans, Turians, Salarians, Asari, and the Krogan making the trip. Everyone else doesn't strike me as races that BioWare would want to bring over, not when they have to populate Andromeda with it's own native lifeforms.

 

The Quarians, the Geth, the Volus, the Elcor, the Hanar, the Vorcha, the Drell, the Rachni, the Leviathans, etc. Are all either too unpopular, insignificant, or too difficult to deal with due to the choices in the trilogy. The Krogan did make the cut despite their possible outcomes with the Genophage, but even if sabotaged there are still Krogan in the galaxy. Unlike the Rannoch decision, where the narrative tells us that unless peace is achieved one of the two species is completely wiped off the face of the galaxy. The Krogan's popularity might have also had something to do with their confirmed presence in ME:Next, so there does still exist the chance that we will see races like the Quarians or Drell again.

 

That is my biggest problem with a Mass Effect set in Andromeda. The loss of all the familiar locations in the Milky Way and all the established factions that we met over the course of the trilogy is definitely a major bummer, but the fact that we have to (essentially) play Russian Roulette with all these aliens that helped give Mass Effect it's distinctive atmosphere is what really irks me about the change. I have always been against the choice to completely remove a species from the setting as I feel it detracts from the variety of the game, and makes the universe more bland. In my canon play through I saved everyone I could, not only because  I was a Paragon, but because I didn't want to lose that 'spark' that the myriad of races gave Mass Effect.

 

 

 

It sucks even more when you realize that of the races to be cut, the 'outliers' are going to be the first ones abandoned back in the Milky Way. The Hanar, the Elcor, and the Rachni weren't the most popular species, and they could all have been wiped out or severely diminished by Shepard's actions, but more than that, they are the least human out of all the alien races present. What better way to save on resource costs if BioWare doesn't have to deal with the unique animations of these races? By killing off these 3 aliens, the animators only have to deal with the biped aliens, and can further streamline the gameplay. 

 

This of course will also serve to further 'humanize' the game than it already is. Over the course of the trilogy all the 'alien' aliens have been swept under the rug and ignored for the most part in favor of the aliens that think and act like us. Even the bipedal Geth were 'fixed' at the conclusion of the Rannoch arc, so as to be more in line with the 'correct' (see human) way of doing things. This may sound like an overreaction, but look at the trilogy, how many new 'alien' aliens did BioWare add as the story went on? How many did they kill off, push into the background or make like us? This isn't something that's exclusive to Mass Effect either, look at how the Dragon Age setting slowly lost it's variety as well.

 

In DA:O/DA:A you had Sylvans, werewolves, golems, Awakened, demons, etc. all established factions and each with their unique personalities and characters and their own separate perspective on the world. Flash forward to DA:I and Sylvans, werewolves, golems and Awakened are nowhere to be seen, and the demons that are present are just mindless monsters for the player to kill for XP.

 

Sure, BioWare could create a new 'alien' species to fill in the gap left by races like the Rachni, but their track record on adding non-human/alien elements to a setting have been pretty low for their past five titles. 


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I hope they all come back, but If one them is going to be left behind, it's defiantly going to be the Vorcha.

 

I can also see the Drell not reappearing.



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If we are talking about fan favorites, and races that don't have widely divergent outcomes based on the players' choices I can only see Humans, Turians, Salarians, Asari, and the Krogan making the trip. Everyone else doesn't strike me as races that BioWare would want to bring over, not when they have to populate Andromeda with it's own native lifeforms.

 

The Quarians, the Geth, the Volus, the Elcor, the Hanar, the Vorcha, the Drell, the Rachni, the Leviathans, etc. Are all either too unpopular, insignificant, or too difficult to deal with due to the choices in the trilogy. The Krogan did make the cut despite their possible outcomes with the Genophage, but even if sabotaged there are still Krogan in the galaxy. Unlike the Rannoch decision, where the narrative tells us that unless peace is achieved one of the two species is completely wiped off the face of the galaxy. The Krogan's popularity might have also had something to do with their confirmed presence in ME:Next, so there does still exist the chance that we will see races like the Quarians or Drell again.

 

That is my biggest problem with a Mass Effect set in Andromeda. The loss of all the familiar locations in the Milky Way and all the established factions that we met over the course of the trilogy is definitely a major bummer, but the fact that we have to (essentially) play Russian Roulette with all these aliens that helped give Mass Effect it's distinctive atmosphere is what really irks me about the change. I have always been against the choice to completely remove a species from the setting as I feel it detracts from the variety of the game, and makes the universe more bland. In my canon play through I saved everyone I could, not only because  I was a Paragon, but because I didn't want to lose that 'spark' that the myriad of races gave Mass Effect.

 

 

 

It sucks even more when you realize that of the races to be cut, the 'outliers' are going to be the first ones abandoned back in the Milky Way. The Hanar, the Elcor, and the Rachni weren't the most popular species, and they could all have been wiped out or severely diminished by Shepard's actions, but more than that, they are the least human out of all the alien races present. What better way to save on resource costs if BioWare doesn't have to deal with the unique animations of these races? By killing off these 3 aliens, the animators only have to deal with the biped aliens, and can further streamline the gameplay. 

 

This of course will also serve to further 'humanize' the game than it already is. Over the course of the trilogy all the 'alien' aliens have been swept under the rug and ignored for the most part in favor of the aliens that think and act like us. Even the bipedal Geth were 'fixed' at the conclusion of the Rannoch arc, so as to be more in line with the 'correct' (see human) way of doing things. This may sound like an overreaction, but look at the trilogy, how many new 'alien' aliens did BioWare add as the story went on? How many did they kill off, push into the background or make like us? This isn't something that's exclusive to Mass Effect either, look at how the Dragon Age setting slowly lost it's variety as well.

 

In DA:O/DA:A you had Sylvans, werewolves, golems, Awakened, demons, etc. all established factions and each with their unique personalities and characters and their own separate perspective on the world. Flash forward to DA:I and Sylvans, werewolves, golems and Awakened are nowhere to be seen, and the demons that are present are just mindless monsters for the player to kill for XP.

 

Sure, BioWare could create a new 'alien' species to fill in the gap left by races like the Rachni, but their track record on adding non-human/alien elements to a setting have been pretty low for their past five titles. 

If I don't get to see the Quarians, Hanar, Elcor, Vorcha or Rachni again... THEN...

 

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Geth and Quarians obviously.

Which is sad because Tali and Legion are my favourites.

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Jellyfish?



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Geth and Quarians obviously.

Which is sad because Tali and Legion are my favourites.

tell me that was a joke bro... that was a joke right? RIGHT?! ANYONE? IT WAS A JOKE RIGHTTT!!!!!???? RIGHT????? right...

 

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One could assume that this 'Ark' I've only heard about just now either sets out for 'Andromeda' (not Triangulum? Dayum no taste in galaxies bruh) before the major choices of the game, or after the RGB ending.

In the case of the former, it would make sense in regards to still having the resources to construct such a ship and may have been built alongside the Weapon used in the ending. With this route, you could also ensure the survival of the Krogan (long term), Quarians (otherwise possibly dead), and clearly the Council Races of Human, Asari, Turian and Salarian. The opportunity to also bring along embassy races as well would exist: While a small niche in popularity, Hanar, Elcor, and the Rolus Volus could survive as well. Maybe even the Raloi as well.

But if this 'Ark' is made and departs later in the story, you then have to deal with the Quarian/Geth situation (Krogan seem to be handwaved.), unless there is a default canon story, and this would be assumed to be Destroy or perhaps Control (less likely): unless this 'Ark' left before it could be affected by the surge of Happy Juice that comes from the Synthesis ending. But, on the concept of a default ending, it would probably be Krogan saved, Quarians (due to destroy) and maybe even a low readiness.

. . .But- I swear I read something about the next game taking place alongside the Shepard Trilogy, not after.



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Depends on who is making the ark :P If it's Batarians you won't see humans on that ship :D Speaking of the Batarians, they will probably not be on the ship. Same thing for the geth (of which I'm glad), rachni and maybe krogan (because salarians would not allow it). Quarians might be able to get to the ship due to their tech skills and unparalleled knowledge of space flights. 



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Depends on who is making the ark :P If it's Batarians you won't see humans on that ship :D Speaking of the Batarians, they will probably not be on the ship. Same thing for the geth (of which I'm glad), rachni and maybe krogan (because salarians would not allow it). Quarians might be able to get to the ship due to their tech skills and unparalleled knowledge of space flights.

Regardless of the leak (which mentions a krogan squadmate and a krogan colony), they Already shown a krogan Last year. It's almost sure they're in.