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[goishen]

Well, if we're going with cyro-sleep as the way to get there...   We would be 300 (assuming it takes that long) years behind the other civilizations in technology plus whatever we already were behind them (assuming that both galaxies started from the same place).  Now all of this is based off of the assumption that Andromeda has had something "Reaper-like" come through and wipe out all life in the galaxy.  Otherwise, they could be a millennia ahead of us as far as technology goes.  And we might as well be standing there with our assault rifles and biotics just as cavemen use spears.

 

I think that what they're gonna do, what they've gotta do, is say something like, "We have learned that each race has a lifespan of about 55K years.  After that, they become so technologically advanced that they either become sterile or think they're too big for their britches and the other races destroy them."  Longer than 50K years, so the Catalyst wouldn't know that each race dies off, but not long enough so that they can outpace our technology.

 

Just like the one race that had believed it had found the path to spiritual enlightenment that Javik mentioned.  Of course, in the very next sentence, another race preferred war and wiped them out.  I do apologize, I cannot remember the names of the races.  

 

EDIT :  Here it is.   Synril and Ditakur.   @ about 55 seconds in.

 

 

EDIT x 2 :  And actually, I don't really think that the Catalyst would have to not know about it.  Think it what Harbinger says, "I am the Harbinger of your perfection" or "ascendance".

[Patchwork]

Jokes aside, that does bring up a good point about Andromeda.

 

 

Does anyone think that BioWare is going to have the races inhabiting the other galaxy be relatively 'uncivilized' compared to us? Are we going to be like the Spanish Conquistadors upon discovering the Aztecs, and just start taking their stuff?

 

 

I mean logically, a native alien population would have their own infrastructure and supply lines pre-established compared to the mass of refugees coming in from the Milky Way so unless Andromeda is technologically undeveloped I don't see how a small band of outsiders can hope to compete with beings that have evolved and developed here for and undisclosed amount of time. I guess the narrative could plop us down in an uninhabited region of Andromeda, but garden worlds are usually highly prized by most species.

 

 

This could provide a nice morally ambiguous scenario for the player, as we are undertaking an imperialist expansion into uncharted space. What right would we have in taking worlds and resources from other civilizations present in the area? Would we try and negotiate, or just take what we need by force? Unfortunately, I don't think BioWare would go with something like that, I have never seen them craft a story that showed humanity (as a whole) in negative or morally dubious light. Typically, they have the evil aliens/monsters being the aggressors, instigating unprovoked attacks on us, and generally giving the player something to kill without consequence.

 

The Khet race mentioned in the (supposed) survey doesn't seem to posses any redeeming qualities; they look to just be a chaotic evil faction that opposes the player. It could be very interesting if the Khet are actually an established species with depth of character and they are attacking us because we are muscling into their territory, taking their resources, and generally pushing them off of suitable worlds.

 

I really like that idea (and ITA BW probably wont go for it). the Ark probably wouldn't start colonising the first system it came to, even if the crew was in stasis pods the Ark could have travelled Andromeda for a while looking for a good place for the MW residence to settle and a cluster with only non space faring natives, garden worlds and mineral resources would be ideal. 

 

I hope the Khet are more than an opposing evil faction, creating another Shanxi/Relay 314 situation and giving us a choice of outcomes would be a lot more interesting than the Khet being Reapers with a different name.

 

Although hints that the Reapers used to harvest Andromeda too would be a fun Easter Egg.  

[Ivory.]

Geth and Quarians maybe? 

[Linkenski]

Quarians. I just hope they tackle the idea of exclusivity discrimination with grace and not without tact.

[Orikon]

Definitely the Geth and the Quarians. The Krogan,the humans,probably the asari and salarians are also on board.

 

Maybe the Volus (for the economy),and maybe,just maybe the Vorcha. But for work purposes only.

 

I don't see the Elcor,Hanar and the Drell or the Batarians on board. They're too low in numbers and Batarians are practically extinct in ME3.

[Ansea]

It's not so easy to make a list of who will be part of this project or not because we don't know in which circumstances the project was launched.

 

The first point is : Who lead this project?

Someone posted a few week ago a photo of a member of the Bioware Team with a T-Shirt. On this photo we could see "Pathfinder + Initiative + A.R.K.C.O.N".

Because of that, it's not impossible to think that project (Flying to Andromeda Galaxy) could be a "private" initiative à la Cerberus. As in the lore of the first games organization such as Cerberus exist, we could admit powerful groups with a large amount of ressources  could exist and try to build such a huge project.

It could be also a project led by governments à la Macross Frontier where after the war with Zentradi, Earth authorities set up the project Macross to spread humanity through the galaxy to prevent its extinction on Earth (by an hostile alien invasion)

 

The second point is : When this project starts?

Many people tend to think this project started during ME3 and could be seen as a desperate measure to avoid total annihilation of the different species by Reapers. One good point for this scenario is that Bioware doesn't have to manage the outcome of the endings of ME3. And they could put anybody on board.

Another possibility could be after the end of ME3. Some organization (Council? Private investors?) is aware that species were on the verge of total annihilation so they set up a project to spread Milky Way civilization towards other galaxies. This scenario is a bit more complex for Bioware from a technical point of view. If you chose Destroy ending or Control ending it's easy. We could even imagine in the case of Control ending that this project is an initiative of a group who want to flee away from Shepard-God-Reaper.
The most difficult one is Synthesis ending. On a visual/technical aspect it would mean having a lot of character assets done in two versions (a normal one, one with glooming greenlight) or at least a way to apply some kind of green layer. This also raises questions about the relationship between species as with this ending Organics and Synthetics are supposed to have a mutual (perfect?) understanding of each other and I am afraid this is less interesting.

To manage your choices (Quarian vs Geth, Genophage cure?, etc...), Bioware could remove some ships/NPCs from the Pathfinder Initiative. That option would probably mean that Quarian and Geth would not probably play an important role in the next Mass Effect.

 

One last question could be : What technological breakthrough or event has allowed this travel?

Indeed in the current lore, travel between galaxy is not a technology which is mastered by Milky Way species. Common ground is that technology similar to wormhole could be a possibility. But it is also accepted that wormhole is a technical thing not a natural one, so what if the wormhole which allows this travel has been opened by ... a civilization from Andromeda? This could change a lot of thing especially if this civilization has "invited" some Milky Way species for its own agenda

 

So I would say that any species we currently know about could be on the "ARK" according to what species Bioware wants to develop more.

[shepskisaac]

Requesting the thread to move to our new Andromeda Overlod forums

[Karlone123]

It will break my heart to see if the Quarians do not make it in to the next game. But I am happy that the Krogan will be there.

[Han Yolo]

If Volus don't make it I'm gonna storm BioWare HQ. 

[MegaIllusiveMan]

(Considering the Ark Theory)

...

 

 

-Leviathans won't be

 

Even if they are in this next galaxy, they can travel by themselves, so no need to put them in the ark

 

-Yagh won't be

 

Because it can be a mess in close quarters, plus aren't that intelligent and can even identify if people lie (it could be used as a police force, Lol, but not transported while moving in the Ark)

 

-Asari(because of Biotics), Salarian (Because of intelligence) and Turians (because of Military Power) is a must and even because they're  Council Races. And Humans too because Humans.

 

-Volus is a must have for the economy

 

-Vorcha is a wise choice to send in unknown territories, since they are immune to disease.

 

-Quarians is a more or less choice because they could (Not considering ME3 Choices)

 

a) Do again that Geth Disaster

b)They are good engineers, so yeah.

 

-Krogan yes because they are a good tank race and can quickly eliminate unknow threats in the unknown territory.

 

That's it, basically...

[NM_Che56]

The Geth and the Quarians, so BW doesn't have to deal with those races still existing or not.

Depends on when the mass exodus happens, right?

[shepskisaac]

Depends on when the mass exodus happens, right?

I wonder about the Krogans tho. Geth/Quarians story is mainly just about STFUing and getting along. Krogan on the other hand, going to Andromeda with Genophage modification still in place, could mean a repeat the same plot... Which is why I suspect the Krogans on ark or shortly after arriving to Andromeda and establishing first colonies will get cured regardless what we picked in ME3.

[Undead Han]

Geth.

 

I doubt the organic colonists would be too concerned about their fate. 

[Eelectrica]

Vorcha... But they'll sneak on anyway

Volus... But they'll buy a ticket for scalpers and get on board

Batarian.... But they're thugs so will steal tickets from some poor Salarian scientist

Krogan... Until the person holding the tickets has a Claymore pointed at his/her head.

Quarians... But they'll hack the ticket computer and just write their own ticket.

Geth... But they'll disguise themselves as toasters and be carried on.

Hanar... But they're just space jellyfish so who cares

Elcor... Will be invited, but miss the boat.

 

Humans, Turian, Salarian and Asari are all invited off from start.

[shepskisaac]

Geth.

 

I doubt the organic colonists would be too concerned about their fate. 

True. But if the geth catch a wind of the Ark, they may just sneak a few of themselves in on toaster software and no one will even notice

[DaemionMoadrin]

Species. Not races. It's not that hard...

[Lady Artifice]

I don't think we're going to see Quarians or Geth this time around, even though I like both just fine.

 

I only hope that we don't see Hanar this time around. 

[Degrees1991]

Hanar, Volus and Elchor which is a shame because they really did add a lot to the Mass Effect series outside of comedy, for me anyway.

[Broganisity]

Quarians could have been invited along, Geth most likely not given their unity concept. Krogan are clearly safe implying they either canonized curing the genophage or it set out beforehand. Turians and Humans are bros. Elcor and Hanar aren't that useful. Volus are less useful but still have some use, but the complexity of their body suits leaves resource issues. Asari and Salarians are probably around as much as I dislike both. Drell are most likely gone if not brought along with Hanar. Batarians are most likely not. Too few left, but still possible. Vorcha probably not, seen as vermin by most. Raloi doubted. Yahg have no Citadel connection at all period.

I think Bioware will canonize the 'good' actions (Genophage cured, Quarians/both saved) to allow for races but sideswipe the endings entirely.

[anillee]

A lot of people are saying the Geth won't make it, but logically speaking, I think one would want Geth. If for no other reason it's extra labor on the ark with next to no downtime. Plus, if they're getting to Andromeda via the Scenic Route (meaning no wormhole, branehole, etc), Geth would be able to make that journey with little difficulty. Besides, what race other than Quarians (whom the Geth exiled from their home planet) are as tech savvy? I'm sure Reaper tech is somehow going to play a role in being able to get to Andromeda, so it stands to reason that the Geth (who were upgraded with Reaper tech themselves) played a key role in integrating Reaper tech into use, which would also earn them a seat at the table, so to speak.

 

I would say the Hanar would be the ones that didn't have a place on the ark. Blasto aside, what can the Hanar do? Even though they're undeserving, I bet BioWare includes them anyway because some people have weird jellyfish fetishes. So my vote has to go with the Vorcha Batarians. They were near extinct at the end of ME3.

[NuclearTech76]

Quarians should absolutely be there. Now the condescending little suit rats annoy me in parts but no one else knows more about the ins and outs of a whole civilization living in on ships in space, they're also great engineers, and can salvage stuff as well as anyone else. The other races might have great insights to offer on a vast variety of subjects but if I'm moving a civilization through space I cannot imagine a race that can contribute more than the Quarians. Their insight makes them indispensable IMO.

[LPPrince]

Hopefully as many that make sense can make the trip.

 

I'd love it if quarians made it to Andromeda. Don't know if it'd make sense tho, unless some were like "Screw it, this is the ultimate Pilgrimage".

[NuclearTech76]

You could I guess have other ships tagging along as part of a rag tag fleet. 

[N7Jamaican]

Krogans, Humans, Asari, Salarians.. Those have been confirmed.  I don't see any more old races, I expect to see the new Andromeda species to shine.

[AsheraII]

Elves, Dwarves, Centaurs, Orcs, Ogres, Medusae, Imps, Wisps..

Need I go on?