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[TruthSerum]

I'm pretty sure no Awakened Collectors made the trip. 

[Vortex13]

You know, if we had to say a race wouldn't make the trip, I would have figured it would have been humans.

 

 

Weren't we too busy going around the galaxy convincing all the other species to abandon their homeworlds in order to 'Take Back Earth'? 

[The Elder King]

You know, if we had to say a race wouldn't make the trip, I would have figured it would have been humans.


Weren't we too busy going around the galaxy convincing all the other species to abandon their homeworlds in order to 'Take Back Earth'?

Yes, we were busy with that. Also we were busy building the only thing that could remotely have a change of defeating the Reapers. Not worse then waiting the inevitable end. Or Not Even bothering themselves to partecipate in a meeting. Or starting a war right before the arrival of the Reapers.
Humanity is by no means perfect, but it's Not like the other species stand out positively in ME3.

[Vortex13]

Yes, we were busy with that. Also we were busy building the only thing that could remotely have a change of defeating the Reapers. Still better then waiting the inevitable end. Or Not Even bothering themselves to partecipate in a meeting. Or starting a war right before the arrival of the Reapers.
Humanity is by no means perfect, but it's Not like the other species stand out positively in ME3.

 

 

True. I was commenting more out of frustration than anything.

 

 

Humanity is (arguably) the most important race in the first three games, and it looks to be the same for the new title.   

[Gwydden]

You know, if we had to say a race wouldn't make the trip, I would have figured it would have been humans.

 

 

Weren't we too busy going around the galaxy convincing all the other species to abandon their homeworlds in order to 'Take Back Earth'? 

This probably happened before that.

 

Wouldn't it be funny if Harper was responsible for kickstarting the whole Ark project too? He's known about the Reapers for decades 

[The Elder King]

True. I was commenting more out of frustration than anything.
 
 
Humanity is (arguably) the most important race in the first three games, and it looks to be the same for the new title.

I agree on this. Though if The leak is, there's hope the focus on humanity doesn't mean they're the most important race.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I agree on this. Though if The leak is, there's hope the focus on humanity doesn't mean they're the most important race.

The fact they are the focus of the game means they are the most important race. 

[shepskisaac]

Let's be honest, humans will be the focus again... Earth will just be replaced with primary Human colony/ship

[The Elder King]

The fact they are the focus of the game means they are the most important race.

Fair enough. My opinion on the matter is different. Though there's the chance we might agree anyway after more details on the story Are revealed.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Vorcha are piloting the damn ship, foo'!

[The Hierophant]

It wouldn't surprise me if the Volus were excluded. The Council are haters they fear their potential.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I agree on this. Though if The leak is, there's hope the focus on humanity doesn't mean they're the most important race species.

The fact they are the focus of the game means they are the most important race species. 

Let's be honest, humans will be the focus again... Earth will just be replaced with primary Human colony/ship

Fair enough. My opinion on the matter is different. Though there's the chance we might agree anyway after more details on the story Are revealed.

 

Have you looked at the ME3 galaxy map recently?

 

 

 

Humans have been part of the galactic community for less than 30 years but already claimed a territory larger than any other single species. Are we content with that? Hell no. We're also colonizing the Attican Traverse, coming into direct conflict with the Batarians. Oh, and winning.

 

There is a reason why humanity got a seat on the council so quickly: The council didn't have a choice. Humanity is expanding much faster, adapts quicker and has a military history that rivals the Turian's. If they opposed us, then it would have lead to a very costly war and there was no guarantee the council could have won.

 

They are afraid. We are aggressive, we are intelligent and we are successful. Luckily we are also diplomatic, otherwise the council races would have treated us like the Krogan. They are glad we're on their side.

 

Who saved the Citadel in ME1? Who defeated the Collectors in ME2? Who was instrumental in the defeat of the Reapers in ME3? Humanity. Again and again we stood at the forefront, we lead and everyone else followed. Not even the Reapers could stop us (except for the Refusal ending, when the data cache with Shepard's data saved the next cycle).

 

Humanity is the most important species in Mass Effect. No surprise considering who made the game.

 

(Btw... the map is nonsense. The Sol system is only one (or two) jumps away from the Citadel, there is no way Earth managed to stay undiscovered for so long. Every commander trying to secure the Citadel would have to secure the relays leading to it, so they would have come to the Sol system.)

[BabyPuncher]

(Btw... the map is nonsense. The Sol system is only one (or two) jumps away from the Citadel, there is no way Earth managed to stay undiscovered for so long. Every commander trying to secure the Citadel would have to secure the relays leading to it, so they would have come to the Sol system.)

 

The Sol Relay leads to the Arcturus Relay and nowhere else, and primary relays are intentionally kept offline until their sister is discovered.
 

[Undead Han]

The Alliance claiming such a huge swath of the Milky Way and contesting some of the Attican Traverse is just another example of the humans are special trope. In thirty years it manages to grab more territory than species like the Turians, Asari, or Salarians who have been space faring for thousands? Suspension of disbelief unsuspended.

 

As much as I love the Mass Effect series, we could use a lot less of that trope in ME:A.

[goishen]

Have you looked at the ME3 galaxy map recently?

 

 

 

Humans have been part of the galactic community for less than 30 years but already claimed a territory larger than any other single species. Are we content with that? Hell no. We're also colonizing the Attican Traverse, coming into direct conflict with the Batarians. Oh, and winning.

 

There is a reason why humanity got a seat on the council so quickly: The council didn't have a choice. Humanity is expanding much faster, adapts quicker and has a military history that rivals the Turian's. If they opposed us, then it would have lead to a very costly war and there was no guarantee the council could have won.

 

They are afraid. We are aggressive, we are intelligent and we are successful. Luckily we are also diplomatic, otherwise the council races would have treated us like the Krogan. They are glad we're on their side.

 

Who saved the Citadel in ME1? Who defeated the Collectors in ME2? Who was instrumental in the defeat of the Reapers in ME3? Humanity. Again and again we stood at the forefront, we lead and everyone else followed. Not even the Reapers could stop us (except for the Refusal ending, when the data cache with Shepard's data saved the next cycle).

 

Humanity is the most important species in Mass Effect. No surprise considering who made the game.

 

(Btw... the map is nonsense. The Sol system is only one (or two) jumps away from the Citadel, there is no way Earth managed to stay undiscovered for so long. Every commander trying to secure the Citadel would have to secure the relays leading to it, so they would have come to the Sol system.)

 

Meh.  Look at France.  Look at Spain.  Look at Italy.  All of them had empires that spanned the majority of Europe.  Until they were crushed right back to where they were.  That's what I think humanity is doing right here.  Expanded rapidly, seeing how much it could take until it pissed off a bigger and badder neighbor.

 

It's not that they were afraid of humans, it's that humans were too aggressive with their snatch and grab of colony worlds.

[BabyPuncher]

The Alliance claiming such a huge swath of the Milky Way and contesting some of the Attican Traverse is just another example of the humans are special trope. In thirty years it manages to grab more territory than species like the Turians, Asari, or Salarians who have been space faring for thousands? Suspension of disbelief unsuspended.

 

As much as I love the Mass Effect series, we could use a lot less of that trope in ME:A.

 

Yeah.

 

It's a shame, because if they wanted it, they could have very easily accomplished it naturally by the end of ME 3. Just make clear the Reapers are hitting the other aliens much harder than humans. When the dust settles, humans are left with a much bigger piece of the pie simply by virtue of not being powerful enough to attract the Reaper's attention on the level of the other races.

[DaemionMoadrin]

The Sol Relay leads to the Arcturus Relay and nowhere else, and primary relays are intentionally kept offline until their sister is discovered.
 

 

In ME2 it doesn't. You can jump from the Citadel directly to Sol. Or get there with two jumps, not 100% sure.

[In Exile]

The Alliance claiming such a huge swath of the Milky Way and contesting some of the Attican Traverse is just another example of the humans are special trope. In thirty years it manages to grab more territory than species like the Turians, Asari, or Salarians who have been space faring for thousands? Suspension of disbelief unsuspended.

 

As much as I love the Mass Effect series, we could use a lot less of that trope in ME:A.

 

While ME has plenty "humans are special" tropes (though the did tone it down after ME1, genetic nonsense thing aside), the territory actually makes a bit of sense. Three reasons.

 

First, humanity's claiming a lot of territory doesn't mean anything when you're thinking about industrial capacity, population or economy, none of which humanity actually wins out in. Compare Canada (which is very large) to the United States (which is comparatively smaller but a titan in every relevant category).

 

Second, this is clearly the 4X game strategy - claim a huge swath of territory even when you don't have the means to protect it. In time, humanity's population and industrial base might come to warrant the territory its claimed (particularly given our reproductive rate vs. most of the council races).

Third, we're colonizing dangerous space. The traverse is a drain on resources. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

While ME has plenty "humans are special" tropes (though the did tone it down after ME1, genetic nonsense thing aside), the territory actually makes a bit of sense. Three reasons.

 

First, humanity's claiming a lot of territory doesn't mean anything when you're thinking about industrial capacity, population or economy, none of which humanity actually wins out in. Compare Canada (which is very large) to the United States (which is comparatively smaller but a titan in every relevant category).

 

Second, this is clearly the 4X game strategy - claim a huge swath of territory even when you don't have the means to protect it. In time, humanity's population and industrial base might come to warrant the territory its claimed (particularly given our reproductive rate vs. most of the council races).

Third, we're colonizing dangerous space. The traverse is a drain on resources. 

 

Good points.

 

Colonizing with such speed is a gamble but it seems to have paid off. While the Alliance lost a couple of colonies (all but one because of the Collectors), most flourished. At least they say they did when you scanned them. Many systems don't have habitable planets, they are simply claimed for their resources.

 

All the systems in the Earth Alliance territory are acknowledged by the council species as humanity's. Only the Batarians contest that claim and they don't have the resources to go to war. Pirates, slavers, skirmishers... that's all.

[shodiswe]

The confusing part is that they have stated that it takes time along side Shepards story, and in other comments they say it's far into the future.

The best explanation is that they prepare for the journey during Shepards time and bfore the Reaper invasion, then they leave for Andromeda in Cryostasi and then they arrive far into the future, even if time is kind of irrelevant unless they got working QEC Communications with thier old home.

[TeffexPope]

Humans, because they're all racist.