If the article is to be believed, then intergalactic travel has been achieved. With that being said, I would hope for there to be a way for travel in between the Milky Way and Andromeda. However, it seems like it is a one-way trip. It would be nice, to be able to go back to the Milky Way and see the Citadel after the reaper war, and what happened to the other races.
One of the biggest problems with the leak (and ark theory for that matter) is that its built upon nothing contrived plot points. They'll be no explanation/build as how the galaxy built an ark that is capable of intergalactic travel that some how is unnoticed by the whole galaxy (the shadow broker in particular), a story should never be built upon contrived plots.
One of the biggest problems with the leak (and ark theory for that matter) is that its built upon nothing contrived plot points. They'll be no explanation/build as how the galaxy built an ark that is capable of intergalactic travel that some how is unnoticed by the whole galaxy (the shadow broker in particular), a story should never be built upon contrived plots.
And you know this how? (not to mention Liara was a very incompetent Shadow Broker to be honest and she was occupied with the Reaper war...)
And you know this how? (not to mention Liara was a very incompetent Shadow Broker to be honest and she was occupied with the Reaper war...)
Because it'll be like the crucible and lazarus project, they just happen no build up or foreshadowing they come out of nowhere with no explanation. Liara wouldn't be the first shadow broker to find out, the one before her would've noticed it as well and so one.
To be fair, it's a very valid point that it's a more than a little convenient that not only did no one in the entire Milky Way know about this Ark project during the events of ME3, but none of what I'm assuming would have to be hundreds if not thousands of people who were chosen to be on aboard it told anyone they knew either.
To call that a contrivance is an understatement.
And on a side note, in ME3 you're strongly led to believe that all the greatest minds in the galaxy (who are even left alive) are frantically working on the Crucible. So where they hell would they have gotten the engineers and scientists to work on the Ark? You can imagine it would be a colossal project on a similar scale to the Crucible. And who do they get to crew the Ark who isn't already dead or fighting?
It all falls apart very quickly when it has to stand up to even a shred of logic.
And if that leak happens to be true and one of the Milky Way races just happened to 'have that ship laying around somewhere' then everyone who worked on ME4 should just be fired.
Because it'll be like the crucible and lazarus project, they just happen no build up or foreshadowing they come out of nowhere with no explanation. Liara wouldn't be the first shadow broker to find out, the one before her would've noticed it as well and so one.
Even that Shadowbroker wasn't omnicient. Clandestine organizations like Cerberus have a precedent for being hard for even the Broker to ferret out.
To be fair, it's a very valid point that it's a more than a little convenient that not only did no one in the entire Milky Way know about this Ark project during the events of ME3, but none of what I'm assuming would have to be hundreds if not thousands of people who were chosen to be on aboard it told anyone they knew either.
You mean like how the Protheans didn't know about Ilos? Yep very hard to imagine...
Even that Shadowbroker wasn't omnicient. Clandestine organizations like Cerberus have a precedent for being hard for even the Broker to ferret out.
And yet the Shadow broker learned about the lazarus project not to mention there is a dossier on the organization. If the Shadow broker learned about the lazarus project and cerberus for that matter then they should have something on an ark project. The fact that the shadow broker would learn nothing of the ark project only makes it even more contrived.
You mean like how the Protheans didn't know about Ilos? Yep very hard to imagine...
Except Vigil explains that all information on Ilos was destroyed when the reaper launched their surprise attack on the citadel and even then Javik mentions there were rumors about Ilos.
Liara was a horrid Shadow Broker. Who didn't know she was the broker? Cerberus knew, Admiral Hackett knew, and Shepard and his crew knew. She was an information broker on Illum, everyone knows that.
Didn't she even say in ME3 cause of the reaper war it was hard to keep in contact with her agents and keep control?
Sidenote: Being a shadow broker is a heavy crown to wear, a burden I do not want.
But I assume this "ark" was done after the reaper war. Maybe some homeworlds and relays were too damaged beyond repair? So maybe they discovered a wormhole that linked them to another galaxy? I don't know but I am interested to see how BioWare will tackle this.
And yet the Shadow broker learned about the lazarus project not to mention there is a dossier on the organization. If the Shadow broker learned about the lazarus project and cerberus for that matter then they should have something on an ark project. The fact that the shadow broker would learn nothing of the ark project only makes it even more contrived.
Maybe he did. Maybe they offered him a seat for his secrecy and he helped them cover it up. Maybe he buried those files so deep Liara didn't find them in her relatively brief stint as Broker.
But I assume this "ark" was done after the reaper war. Maybe some homeworlds and relays were too damaged beyond repair? So maybe they discovered a wormhole that linked them to another galaxy? I don't know but I am interested to see how BioWare will tackle this.
Can't really be after, because of Synthesis.
Except Vigil explains that all information on Ilos was destroyed when the reaper launched their surprise attack on the citadel and even then Javik mentions there were rumors about Ilos.
Your point is...?
Okay, so a couple things here.
1.) We have no idea yet if there is an "Ark" or whatever.
2.) Even if there is one we have no idea when it was built.
There are so many things we just don't know (assuming the leak is true) that I think it pointless to get too worked up about it. However, to help assuage the fears of those who think that any trip to Andromeda would be impossible, I present two scenarios for traveling to Andromeda.
1.) Sleeper ship/s. Assuming that there is some way of discharging on the way (possible given updated technology and solar systems which actually exist between Andromeda and the Milky Way), and assuming proper sleeper pods were maintained, the trip would take around 230 years or so at 30/ly a day (standard speed for Council ships.) Necessity is the mother of invention, and we know that the Asari councilor began seeing to "continuity of civilization plans" after the Fall of Thessia.
2.) Worm hole/Remnant portal etc. Another possibility is that another species at some point in the previous millions of years of cycles decided to flee the Milky Way and left their means of retreat behind. This could be a fun scenario because it would allow for some connection to the Milky Way's past.
So basically we could some combination of Mass Effect, Voyager, Battlestar Galactica, and/or Stargate: Atlantis. If that combo doesn't excite you then I don't know what will!
EDIT: Oh and throw in a bit of Andromeda + Deep Space 9 in there for fun. The possibilities are endless!
Maybe he did. Maybe they offered him a seat for his secrecy and he helped them cover it up. Maybe he buried those files so deep Liara didn't find them in her relatively brief stint as Broker.
Your only proving my point the whole thing is built upon nothing but contrivances. No one know who the shadow broker truly is and he is under no obligation to bury the data and can therefore do as he pleases with it.
Your point is...?
The such a project would be on a similar scale as the crucible and therefore cause rumors of its existence to spread eventually.
a BioWare producer just tweeted this today:
Scylla Costa @scyllacosta
What lies ahead? Adventures? Dangerous foes?
I think it's safe to say it will be a one way wormhole.
Okay, so a couple things here.
1.) We have no idea yet if there is an "Ark" or whatever.
2.) Even if there is one we have no idea when it was built.
There are so many things we just don't know (assuming the leak is true) that I think it pointless to get too worked up about it. However, to help assuage the fears of those who think that any trip to Andromeda would be impossible, I present two scenarios for traveling to Andromeda.
1.) Sleeper ship/s. Assuming that there is some way of discharging on the way (possible given updated technology and solar systems which actually exist between Andromeda and the Milky Way), and assuming proper sleeper pods were maintained, the trip would take around 230 years or so at 30/ly a day (standard speed for Council ships.) Necessity is the mother of invention, and we know that the Asari councilor began seeing to "continuity of civilization plans" after the Fall of Thessia.
2.) Worm hole/Remnant portal etc. Another possibility is that another species at some point in the previous millions of years of cycles decided to flee the Milky Way and left their means of retreat behind. This could be a fun scenario because it would allow for some connection to the Milky Way's past.
So basically we could some combination of Mass Effect, Voyager, Battlestar Galactica, and/or Stargate: Atlantis. If that combo doesn't excite you then I don't know what will!
EDIT: Oh and throw in a bit of Andromeda + Deep Space 9 in there for fun. The possibilities are endless!
The issue is with the whole andromeda thing is that it will have no build up what so ever, it just comes out of nowhere.
The such a project would be on a similar scale as the crucible and therefore cause rumors of its existence to spread eventually.
Maybe. Who says Shepard needs to hear about it?
I wouldn't mind the wormhole ONLY if it wasn't a one-way trip.
The issue is with the whole andromeda thing is that it will have no build up what so ever, it just comes out of nowhere.
....aaand? I mean it's the start of a new story in the ME universe, they are allowed to do that.
Has there been anything on wormholes in the series so far? The Conduit on Ilos sounds like it's the closest thing, but even still, it's basically a glorified mass relay or whatever.
Would feel kind of weird to introduce wormholes at this late point.
Maybe. Who says Shepard needs to hear about it?
Shepard is a tad busy with the whole Reaper thing....
Maybe. Who says Shepard needs to hear about it?
Some one like Admiral Hackett, the council or some other high ranking figure would eventually get word of it and therefore with Shepard being a key figure on the reaper war they'd be obligated to tell him/her.
Some one like Admiral Hackett, the council or some other high ranking figure would eventually get word of it and therefore with Shepard being a key figure on the reaper war they'd be obligated to tell him/her.
You honestly think they would tell Shepard everything
Along with the fact Shepard is focusing on the War
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