Some one like Admiral Hackett, the council or some other high ranking figure would eventually get word of it and therefore with Shepard being a key figure on the reaper war they'd be obligated to tell him/her.
Why? No seriously why would they be obligated to tell Shepard this? Shepard needs to focus on fighting the war, not dealing with contingencies.
....aaand? I mean it's the start of a new story in the ME universe, they are allowed to do that.
Except a fresh start shouldn't be built upon contrived plots which the andromeda has a good chance of being built upon such things.
Some one like Admiral Hackett, the council or some other high ranking figure would eventually get word of it and therefore with Shepard being a key figure on the reaper war they'd be obligated to tell him/her.
You honestly think they would tell Shepard everything
Along with the fact Shepard is focusing on the War
Why? No seriously why would they be obligated to tell Shepard this? Shepard needs to focus on fighting the war, not dealing with contingencies.
Shepard should at least know that if the war goes sideways they'll have a plan B ready.
The leak doesn't say anything about the timeline of the next Mass Effect. For all we know it could take place centuries after the Reaper War.
The issue is with the whole andromeda thing is that it will have no build up what so ever, it just comes out of nowhere.
I get that, but that is sort of the idea, right?
On the Milky Way side, we became Space Jesus and defeated/controlled/befriended a terrifying force of Squid-Ships that crushed galactic civilizations for millions upon millions of years!
So what do we do in the Milky Way? I mean, we could explore all of the politics of a post-war galaxy, but that would kind of be anti-climactic after the apocalyptic war for survival that was Mass Effect 3.
And in that sense, going to Andromeda does have a build up. The civilizations of the Milky Way, before the miracle of Space Jesus, was utterly screwed. I mean, even if you do end up getting to the Crucible as Shepard, there is a decent chance that you have bad EMS, pick Destroy, and doom the entire galaxy to a new dark age. There is maybe one chance in a million that ME3 ends well for anyone, from an in-universe perspective. Bear in mind that some people thought the Crucible might just blow the whole darn galaxy up!
So it makes sense that the only other reasonable alternative is to run very, very far away because otherwise the Reaper's would eventually find you. Escape the Milky Way, that would be least-worst option during the Reaper War.
Now, that is if the "Ark" (in-so-far as it might exist) was built during the war. Maybe it was built after and going to Andromeda seems like a fun time. What else do you have to do in the Milky Way except scan for Iridium once the Reapers are done with right?
Like the asari Councilor didn't say anything about her race's secret until Thessia was targeted by the Reapers?
And looked how that turned out, because they withheld information that could've saved more lives had it been revealed sooner a lot of situations in the war could've been avoided. And someone like Hackett isn't exactly a person who'd keep Shepard in the dark and he/she on of the best soldiers in the Alliance.
Shepard should at least know that if the war goes sideways they'll have a plan B ready.
Why...how does that help Shepard defeat the Reapers....why would SHepard even need to know about this? What possible use would there be for Admiral Hackett to say "Oh by the way, in case you fail we're sending a bunch of people to another galaxy." How would that even come up in conversation?
There's the possibility the voyage to Andromeda happened through a wormhole.
I think the Andromeda galaxie just got close enough so it would take 2,538,000 light years to get it it,
if you don't know what I'm talking about http://en.wikipedia....y_Way_collisionsure it might not happen and if it does it will be like 4 billion years before it happens but you never no
Admiral Hackett had his own problems during the Reaper war. Also, there are other Admirals aside from Hackett and Anderson in ME. It's just those two played a huge role.
As far as we know, IF this is an "ark" being built, it is possible that there was someone else behind the scenes gathering the greatest minds in the galaxy to build this said ark. Which would make for a good movie, (graphic) novel, or game.
I'm not taking too much stock in this theory, but many people see it's the likely scenario for the next game.
The leak doesn't say anything about the timeline of the next Mass Effect. For all we know it could take place centuries after the Reaper War.
It probably will. Makes it easier to incorporate the whole wormhole thing.
The leak doesn't say anything about the timeline of the next Mass Effect. For all we know it could take place centuries after the Reaper War.
Some one like Admiral Hackett, the council or some other high ranking figure would eventually get word of it and therefore with Shepard being a key figure on the reaper war they'd be obligated to tell him/her.
Right the contrary. Why would they distract him/her with something that he can do nothing about? Especially if it's only a rumor.
1.) Sleeper ship/s. Assuming that there is some way of discharging on the way (possible given updated technology and solar systems which actually exist between Andromeda and the Milky Way), and assuming proper sleeper pods were maintained, the trip would take around 230 years or so at 30/ly a day (standard speed for Council ships.) Necessity is the mother of invention, and we know that the Asari councilor began seeing to "continuity of civilization plans" after the Fall of Thessia.
2.) Worm hole/Remnant portal etc. Another possibility is that another species at some point in the previous millions of years of cycles decided to flee the Milky Way and left their means of retreat behind. This could be a fun scenario because it would allow for some connection to the Milky Way's past.
I'm pretty sure 30ly/day is Reaper speed, not Citadel speed. From the Wiki:
The exact FTL speeds at which starships of the modern galaxy travel are unknown. It is noted, however, that Reapers are believed to be capable of traveling nearly 30 light-years (283,821,914,177,424,000 meters) within a 24-hour period, and that this rate is roughly twice what Citadel starships are capable of traveling. This equates Reaper FTL capabilities to around 10,958 times the speed of light.
So a Citadel starship would take over 460 years to reach Andromeda, unless they had somehow worked out how to match Reaper speeds.
But I think the wormhole idea is more likely, mostly because it wouldn't need anywhere near the same amount of buildup/preparation, making it far more plausible that we didn't hear about the planned journey during the trilogy.
I still think it's silly, tho.
Shepard should at least know that if the war goes sideways they'll have a plan B ready.
Or he should give everything (s)he's got like it's the only way...
Ever heared of morale?
"Hey Shaperd! How's uniting the Galaxy going? Don't worry in case you fail we have a Plan B. But you will have no part in it so you will die anyway. Bye."
If word about an Ark project gets out, people would probably do anything to get on that ship. There's no need for more chaos and conflict during a Reaper invasion.
In my opinion, I think wormhole might be the easiest route to go from a writer's perspective. Ark theory would require too many variables to make it believable.
Your only proving my point the whole thing is built upon nothing but contrivances. No one know who the shadow broker truly is and he is under no obligation to bury the data and can therefore do as he pleases with it.
Which is what gave him the leverage to demand a seat. Once his personal safety was assured, it would be in his best interest to keep the project hidden for the same reason the builders would want it secret. Its not as if the data would be very valuable, very few people believe the reapers exist, people won't pay for an escape pod for a danger they don't believe in. How is that a contrivance?
The such a project would be on a similar scale as the crucible and therefore cause rumors of its existence to spread eventually.
No, such a project would not be on the scale of a larger-than-the-Citadel object cobbled together in a couple months. We're talking about something both smaller and built over a span of years, possibly a decade.
Wormhole/black hole jump would be just too convinient, not liking that they seem to be teasing it.
Wormhole/black hole jump would be just too convinient, not liking that they seem to be teasing it.
I agree. I could see it work if it actually ties into the plot and not just a tool to get them there and never mentioned again.
I'm ok with them using a wormhole/black hole, but I would prefer if it was A.I. piloted Ark ships using FTL with everyone inside in cryostasis. I don't really care if there's a little 'space-magic', it's science-fiction.
OK, so I just read the entire Ark Theory thread. There were some good points made about feasibility of intergalactic travel and the Ark Theory in general.
1) Discharging drive cores. Heimdall suggested the ships to carry some sort of ballast for that purpose, but I don't think it'll work since ballast will make the ships heavier and larger drive cores will be required, which, in turn, will force the ships to discharge cores more frequently. There is also the matter of costs for all that eezo, the trade of which is monitored. A way was suggested to reverse-engineer Reaper drive cores, but besides Sovereign there is only one Reaper before ME3, that derelict one which has its core intact. Of course, writers can come up with "they found another derelict Reaper" but I think it is going to be akin to the Crucible plans on Mars - too convenient. And Prothean technology is highly regulated. The penalties for withholding Prothean technology are some of the harshest in the galaxy.
2) Synthetics vs organics. Regardless of what you think about the endings, Bioware clearly believes the story they have told, about the conflict being inevitable. Thus, solving it plays a large role in the universe. Moving away to another galaxy before the endings does not remove the conflict. The only way I see for the Andromeda scenario to work alongside the resolution of this conflict is by making the Milky Way face an existential threat and force the races of the galaxy to move elsewhere. The timeline will probably be centuries away from the Reaper War.
3) Secrecy. It is suggested that the project is conducted in secrecy for quite a long time, before even ME1 events. However, the project will require large funding, access to ship-building facilities and brilliant scientists. If that group knows about the Reapers and believes their threat enough to pull such resources into the project, why don't they warn the others? They'll probably have a proof, solid enough that they spend that much money on the project. More, their existence is never mentioned in the trilogy, even in Shadow Broker intel and Spectre terminal.
4) Connection to Milky Way. Assuming the ships departed during Mass Effect 3 and centuries had passed, won't anyone be interested to find out what happened? The idea was presented that the colonists might not want to do that not to reveal their presence to the Reapers, but what of the people of Milky Way? Is it really plausible that nobody will find out about such a project after centuries from the Reaper War. It should be noted that the Protheans too had stored a message about their contingency plan in the beacons.
I also found it interesting that I've seen the names of some members who were quite opposed to the idea in that thread back then but argued for it in the recent discussions 
It's too late here (around 4 AM lol) and I'm probably forgetting a few points but those seemed quite major.
Personally, I believe that Bioware's best course of action is to set the game in an uncharted region of Milky Way and establish a basis for the move to Andromeda from that region.
Or have ships that flee from the final battle to be swallowed by a wormhole to Andromeda. It will also have the possibility to have a bunch of races in ME:Next that no one will bother to take to the ark ship - Batarians and Geth/Quarians (all based on the choices prior to the endings). The announcement of Orbit seems to indicate that there will be some form of Mass Effect: Keep (Arc?) to address those major choices. And even without the Keep they can add a bunch of races for this setup without invalidating player choices. Batarians and Quarian exiles can come from the Terminus fleet, Krogan too, Humans, Asari, Turians and Salarians are already there, Elcor and Volus too... Hell, we don't know anything about the Crucible wave, for all we know, the creation of wormholes can be a side effect from it and the Normandy is crashed in Andromeda 
Why...how does that help Shepard defeat the Reapers....why would SHepard even need to know about this? What possible use would there be for Admiral Hackett to say "Oh by the way, in case you fail we're sending a bunch of people to another galaxy." How would that even come up in conversation?
Except Shepard already knows that defeat is a real possibility and she/he isn't the kind of person who goes around telling your average person that defeat is a real possibility, she/he knows that such a project would need to have the same secrecy as the crucible. Shepard shouldn't be concerned about his/her own survival but rather the continued survive of all the species in the known galaxy whether it involve using the crucible or having an ark ship going to another galaxy.
Right the contrary. Why would they distract him/her with something that he can do nothing about? Especially if it's only a rumor.
Shepard would still want to know if such a rumor is true or not given the situation.
Which is what gave him the leverage to demand a seat. Once his personal safety was assured, it would be in his best interest to keep the project hidden for the same reason the builders would want it secret. Its not as if the data would be very valuable, very few people believe the reapers exist, people won't pay for an escape pod for a danger they don't believe in. How is that a contrivance?
No, such a project would not be on the scale of a larger-than-the-Citadel object cobbled together in a couple months. We're talking about something both smaller and built over a span of years, possibly a decade.
Again those are still contrived, he has no obligation to keep such a project a secret or bury the data he can share it with any of his clients if its in his best interest. Then there the fact that there is a secret project with the intention of going to another galaxy whether it was done over the course mouths or years and there throughout the entire franchise there was not a single mention of it and not even hinted at is contrived. It'll come out of nowhere like the many possible contrivances that moving to another galaxy would require and having too many contrivances isn't good writing.
I won't bother arguing any further.
Again those are still contrived, he has no obligation to keep such a project a secret or bury the data he can share it with any of his clients if its in his best interest. Then there the fact that there is a secret project with the intention of going to another galaxy whether it was done over the course mouths or years and there throughout the entire franchise there was not a single mention of it and not even hinted at is contrived. It'll come out of nowhere like the many possible contrivances that moving to another galaxy would require and having too many contrivances isn't good writing.
I won't bother arguing any further.
I've just explained to you that keeping the secret is in his best interest, but fine, whatever
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