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[Drone223]

I've just explained to you that keeping the secret is in his best interest, but fine, whatever

But like I said before he can also share its existence as well if its in his interest it goes both ways so I'll leave it at that.

[N7Jamaican]

Shepard doesn't know to know EVERYTHING, and (s)he is privy to a lot of information.  I think Shepard is told what is needed to be known, i.e. "anything that can help him defeat the Reapers."  Why would you tell Shepard that "oh hey, we don't have confidence in you, so we're building an ark for Plan B." 

[Malanek]

The point isn't that Shepard can't know, it's that no one (outside those going) can know. If it was common knowledge there would be millions of people queuing up for the ticket and the reapers would likely intervene. It has to remain a complete secret.

[Drone223]

The point isn't that Shepard can't know, it's that no one (outside those going) can know. If it was common knowledge there would be millions of people queuing up for the ticket and the reapers would likely intervene. It has to remain a complete secret.

Except Shepard isn't the kind of person who would go around screaming "WE"RE BUILDING AN ARK SHIP TO ESCAPE THE GALAXY!" Shepard would be keeping it a secret like the crucible because in ME3 she/he never publicly told anyone about the crucible Shepard kept its existence classified and only discussed it with an hand full of people.

[AresKeith]

Except Shepard isn't the kind of person who would go around screaming "WE"RE BUILDING AN ARK SHIP TO ESCAPE THE GALAXY!" Shepard would be keeping it a secret like the crucible because in ME3 she/he never publicly told anyone about the crucible Shepard kept its existence classified and only discussed it with an hand full of people.

 

So ultimately it's just a random passing mention that services no purpose 

[Drone223]

So ultimately it's just a random passing mention that services no purpose 

No it'd be telling Shepard they are also preparing for the worse should it happened, like Liara's warnings.

[AresKeith]

No it'd be telling Shepard they are also preparing for the worse should it happened, like Liara's warnings.

 

But Shepard doesn't need to know, (s)he is only a soldier who's mainly focused on the war

[Drone223]

But Shepard doesn't need to know, (s)he is only a soldier who's mainly focused on the war

So are people like Hackett and Victus, they'd at least would to tell other key figures in the war (Shepard being one of them) that they'll have a Plan B on stand by.

[ZoliCs]

So are people like Hackett and Victus, they'd at least would to tell other key figures in the war (Shepard being one of them) that they'll have a Plan B on stand by.

 

You still base your argument on that people know about it. They wouldn't and shouldn't.

[dreamgazer]

But Shepard doesn't need to know, (s)he is only a soldier who's mainly focused on the war

Nah, Shepard's the "tip of the spear", and everything they're doing is a "delaying action" for Shepard's Crucible initiative.

[Drone223]

You still base your argument on that people know about it. They wouldn't and shouldn't.

I keep telling that like the crucible such a project will only be known to a hand full of people since its important to have a plan B should the crucible fail. Shepard wouldn't need the details but Shepard should know that should the crucible fail they'll have a another method for the continuation of all the known sentient species in the galaxy.

[AresKeith]

Nah, Shepard's the "tip of the spear", and everything they're doing is a "delaying action" for Shepard's Crucible initiative.

 

Gah, I found that dialogue dumb 

[ZoliCs]

I keep telling that like the crucible such a project will only be known to a hand full of people since its important to have a plan B should the crucible fail.

Or it's a Plan A for someone who doesn't know about the Crucible.

[Drone223]

Or it's a Plan A for someone who doesn't know about the Crucible.

The galaxy kept the crucible secret for as long as possible so when they deployed it'd be too late for the reaper's to respond, it was never going to be a secret forever. It'd be hard to believe that an ark would fear any better.

[N7Jamaican]

I'm sure the Reaper's knew about it, because the Illusive man knew... And he was indoctrinated...  But considering no one species has completed its construction, and they thought the concept has once been eradicated, maybe they didn't see it as a threat.  

[N7Jamaican]

Too many people knowing about the Crucible and "Ark" is bad news.  Remember Javik telling Shepard, there were traitors that with the ranks?  How could even just a handful, like Hackett, Shepard, and Council know about the "Ark" is a good thing? Less people the better.  

 

Doubt Shepard would know, doubt they would tell him/her.  Doubt even the ridiculously bad Shadow Broker Liara knew.  Shepard's focus was find a way to stop the reapers. 

[N7Jamaican]

If Liara can't even maintain her identity as the Shadow Broker from the Alliance and Cerberus, doubt she could keep her mouth shut about the "Ark." And don't get me wrong, I love her. But she's not a good broker...

[Drone223]

Too many people knowing about the Crucible and "Ark" is bad news.  Remember Javik telling Shepard, there were traitors that with the ranks?  How could even just a handful, like Hackett, Shepard, and Council know about the "Ark" is a good thing? Less people the better.  

 

Doubt Shepard would know, doubt they would tell him/her.  Doubt even the ridiculously bad Shadow Broker Liara knew.  Shepard's focus was find a way to stop the reapers. 

Like the crucible such a project would require a massive amount of resources and therefore would get noticed eventually, let's not forget that the shadow broker before Liara knew of the reaper's so I wouldn't be surprised if the shadow broker knew of such a project.

[ZoliCs]

If Liara can't even maintain her identity as the Shadow Broker from the Alliance and Cerberus, doubt she could keep her mouth shut about the "Ark." And don't get me wrong, I love her. But she's not a good broker...

[ZoliCs]

Like the crucible such a project would require a massive amount of resources and therefore would get noticed eventually, let's not forget that the shadow broker before Liara knew of the reaper's so I wouldn't be surprised if the shadow broker knew of such a project.

 

The Broker before Liara wasn't all knowing either. Else he'd still be alive.

[N7Jamaican]

I kind of wished they kept the identity between the Shadow Broker hidden.  Having a mysterious figure pulling the strings in the background and calling the shots was awesome.  In ME1, you've always wondered, who is it, how did they become the broker, how do they maintain control of their network, where are they, is it one person?  All of that gone (in a good DLC: Lair of the Shadow Broker). But I feel like they've could have left it out.  

[ZoliCs]

I kind of wished they kept the identity between the Shadow Broker hidden.  Having a mysterious figure pulling the strings in the background and calling the shots was awesome.  In ME1, you've always wondered, who is it, how did they become the broker, how do they maintain control of their network, where are they, is it one person?  All of that gone (in a good DLC: Lair of the Shadow Broker). But I feel like they've could have left it out.  

It's always like that with mysteries, you really want to know it, but once you do it's meh. Another reason why Andromeda could be awesome. New mysteries! In the Milky Way they are all gone, along with every major conflict...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The leak doesn't say anything about the timeline of the next Mass Effect. For all we know it could take place centuries after the Reaper War.

Then they'd have to address the endings, making the whole reason they are throwing the Milky Way away pointless. 

[shepskisaac]

It's always like that with mysteries, you really want to know it, but once you do it's meh. Another reason why Andromeda could be awesome. New mysteries! In the Milky Way they are all gone, along with every major conflict...

Kinda true. I mean, what else major is left? That Leviathans tampered with Crucible design? Pretty much telegraphed anyway in the DLC

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's always like that with mysteries, you really want to know it, but once you do it's meh. Another reason why Andromeda could be awesome. New mysteries! In the Milky Way they are all gone, along with every major conflict...

Really? So there isn't a possibility for any mysteries or big conflicts in the 99% of the Milky Way that hasn't been explored yet?