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[Steppenwolf]

Even if they did, that doesn't somehow invalidate how ridiculous this survey is.

How is it ridiculous?
 

Not to mention, if this did happen with DAI (I can only go by your word),

 You don't have to take my word for it. Google exists. And considering that you're ignorant of what BioWare has and has not done in this regard, shouldn't you be a little less absolutist?

Proof of this earlier non gamer survey. I call bollocks.
To get market feedback they asked people who aren't in the market what's what.
Seriously, some of you guys and gals only deserve gif responses:

Again, google exists. Maybe instead of posting silly image responses you should educate yourself?
 

I know about the leak. But the guy/gal I quoted claimed the survey was for non-gamers too to get a feeling of the market.
Which is the most laughable thing I've heard in a long time... and I spend quite some time on here so that's one hell of an accomplishment.
Again: that's like asking a vegetarian how he/she likes to eat a steak.

The Inquisition survey was available on at least 3 different survey sites and two of them were completely general purpose. There were surveys for TV shows, cleaning products, movie promotions, etc. Why don't you even try to educate yourself before making these ignorant, incorrect statements?

[Revan Reborn]

How is it ridiculous?
 

 You don't have to take my word for it. Google exists. And considering that you're ignorant of what BioWare has and has not done in this regard, shouldn't you be a little absolutist?


Again, google exists. Maybe instead of posting silly image responses you should educate yourself?


The Inquisition survey was available on at least 3 different survey sites and two of them were completely general purpose. There were surveys for TV shows, cleaning products, movie promotions, etc. Why don't you even try to educate yourself before making these ignorant, incorrect statements?

Your snide and rude remarks are not appreciated. You seem to miss the point that, survey or not, your actual point is irrelevant. I will ask you kindly to leave if you cannot remain civil and contribute to the discussion. Thank you.

[GreatBlueHeron]

Yeah, OP, nothing's official until it's official. I'm leaning towards legit survey. Don't really care if it's legit or not. It's plausible and it gives people something to talk about.

I predict Mass Rage on the forums.

[SofaJockey]

Honestly, E3 can't get here soon enough. Once we actually have true substance and hopefully gameplay, truly productive conversations can begin and we can actually provide BioWare with feedback of what we think. Until then, we'll just have to wait out the storm and hope the radical BSNers on the BioWare forums don't declare martial law.

 

BioWare are likely to follow a similar marketing pattern to DAI, why wouldn't they?

 

A first proper teaser around 7 months pre-launch with a launch season.

A proper gameplay trailer around 5 months pre-launch with a launch date.

All promotion lets loose 3 months pre-launch.

 

If we have any instinct as to when launch might be, we can work backwards from that, it's going to be 'sometime in first half of 2016 surely'...

 

Oh, and as nice as it is to provide 'feedback' of what people think, I suspect it would have precisely zero impact on what is actually launched.

That's just not how game development works, BioWare has long since solicited and received feedback.

[arathor_87]

I think the new setting will take place in Andromeda. But the rest? Some of it may be true, but I think and hope that most of it is bullshit. It´s to detailed for a survey. But maybe I´m wrong.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

Someone is mad because they weren't invited to the Ark-party 

In all seriousness I get what you're saying. I don't think any of us have really accepted this "leak" as 100% truth but look around man, there has been no shred of any news on the next Mass Effect. It's fun to debate the possibilities that this "leak" has presented us. So relax, and let the kids have fun for a bit.

[Majestic Jazz]

The way I see it, this leak/rumor is spreading throughout the internet like wildfire and hitting major videogame sites and yet Bioware has not came out to claim that these rumors are false. It is one thing when this rumor is contained to these forums and a few back alley websites, but now that they are hitting the mainstream gaming media world....and Bioware still says nothing....then perhaps there is some truth to this leak. Now everything in the leak might not be 100% true, but I bet a good chunk of it is and considering that Bioware is nearly a month away from possibly revealing the game at E3, I doubt Bioware has the time in this point in development to go back and change things. They realize that plot details were leaked so they are just going to stay quiet until they can officially reveal it at E3.

 

My opinion, the leak is true. 

[shepskisaac]

I think the new setting will take place in Andromeda. But the rest? Some of it may be true, but I think and hope that most of it is bullshit. It´s to detailed for a survey. But maybe I´m wrong.

Could be true from a certain POV. Two Assassin's Creed games were leaked in detail on NeoGAF with an "airplane" story (I was sitting on airplane and caught Ubisoft marketing slides on a laptop 2 seats away!) which was obvious BS and someone just wanted to make a cover-up story to leak info he had access to. Could be similar here, guy leaks true details but wraps them in BS story to cover his tracks.

 

This is the most important part - multiple people on GAF who are considered credible are saying that the information the text provides is true. Whether there actually was a survey or not is not even important

[Malanek]

I think the new setting will take place in Andromeda. But the rest? Some of it may be true, but I think and hope that most of it is bullshit. It´s to detailed for a survey. But maybe I´m wrong.

It's a survey for marketing. They will focus on which aspects are best received and push those. Because of that it needs to be detailed.

[shepskisaac]

Intersting that Kotaku is so far avoiding the story. They sometimes have very good inside sources so maybe they're preparing some bigger confirming/debunking article?

[Revan Reborn]

The way I see it, this leak/rumor is spreading throughout the internet like wildfire and hitting major videogame sites and yet Bioware has not came out to claim that these rumors are false. It is one thing when this rumor is contained to these forums and a few back alley websites, but now that they are hitting the mainstream gaming media world....and Bioware still says nothing....then perhaps there is some truth to this leak. Now everything in the leak might not be 100% true, but I bet a good chunk of it is and considering that Bioware is nearly a month away from possibly revealing the game at E3, I doubt Bioware has the time in this point in development to go back and change things. They realize that plot details were leaked so they are just going to stay quiet until they can officially reveal it at E3.

 

My opinion, the leak is true. 

That's not how it works, however. EA, and many of the major publishers, will not comment on rumors or speculation in any capacity. Whether the leak were absolutely true or 100% false, it would not matter. They will not comment as that's typical PR. If anything, all the "leak" does is generate hype and anticipation for the next Mass Effect, which could very well be entirely different.

 

Intersting that Kotaku is so far avoiding the story. They sometimes have very good inside sources so maybe they're preparing some bigger confirming/debunking article?

Kotaku only pitches in if they have verifiable evidence the leak is true. That was the case with Assassin's Creed Unity. The fact they aren't even giving this "leak" the time of day speaks for itself in my opinion.

[Steppenwolf]

That's not how it works, however. EA, and many of the major publishers, will not comment on rumors or speculation in any capacity. Whether the leak were absolutely true or 100% false, it would not matter. They will not comment as that's typical PR. If anything, all the "leak" does is generate hype and anticipation for the next Mass Effect, which could very well be entirely different.

They addressed the Inquisition survey leak by denying it's validity.
 

Kotaku only pitches in if they have verifiable evidence the leak is true. That was the case with Assassin's Creed Unity. The fact they aren't even giving this "leak" the time of day speaks for itself in my opinion.

Kotaku is unreliable at best, and several reliable insiders have come out and said this leak is legit. Why would people put their reputations on the line for something that's just made up?

[shepskisaac]

Kotaku only pitches in if they have verifiable evidence the leak is true. That was the case with Assassin's Creed Unity. The fact they aren't even giving this "leak" the time of day speaks for itself in my opinion.

Maybe. But if the leak turns true you can't say you weren't "warned". Different galaxy scenario has always been considered a strong possibility precisely because of the endings' sidestepping advantage.

[Kabooooom]

Like I told you, OP - I'm ambivalent. Although, I am leaning towards the leak being more credible. I dont care either way.

But you are unwaivering in your view of what Mass Effect MUST be, because you have set preconceived notions and preconceived expectations.

I told you before man, you are setting yourself up to be massively disappointed.

In a few months, you'll either look like a fool or you will be vindicated. Let people have their fun with their discussion of it.

[Majestic Jazz]

While some of the details of the leak may not be true (or true but wont be in the final game), I think the overall concept of us playing as a N7 Pathfinder in a new galaxy fits the bill of what Bioware has revealed about ME4 thus far such as:

- An emphasis on exploration [Pathfinder]
- Taking place in a "new region" of space never seen before. [Andromeda]

[shepskisaac]

While some of the details of the leak may not be true (or true but wont be in the final game), I think the overall concept of us playing as a N7 Pathfinder in a new galaxy fits the bill of what Bioware has revealed about ME4 thus far such as:

- An emphasis on exploration [Pathfinder]
- Taking place in a "new region" of space never seen before. [Andromeda]

And then there's the galaxy map image from E3 2014. It definitely didn't show Milky Way but a different, spiral galaxy

[Revan Reborn]

Maybe. But if the leak turns true you can't say you weren't "warned". Different galaxy scenario has always been considered a strong possibility precisely because of the endings' sidestepping advantage.

Again, there's this assumption that the ME3 endings need to be "avoided." Why? Merely because a few disgruntled fans did not like the endings? That's hardly a reason for BioWare to compromise their creative liberty. They certainly did not change the endings of ME3 when the game was released when they could have easily done so. I don't see why they need to appease anyone going forward. If anything, it would be far more interesting to see what the Milky Way looks like now due to those choices.

 

Like I told you, OP - I'm ambivalent. Although, I am leaning towards the leak being more credible. I dont care either way.

But you are unwaivering in your view of what Mass Effect MUST be, because you have set preconceived notions and preconceived expectations.

I told you before man, you are setting yourself up to be massively disappointed.

In a few months, you'll either look like a fool or you will be vindicated. Let people have their fun with their discussion of it.

I'm "unwavering" in that I take a reddit post, that is barely coherent and could have been fabricated by anyone, with a grain of salt. As I've already posted prior in this thread, including the OP, there is a lot of contradicting points in this "survey" and you shouldn't just accept it at face value.

 

Look like a fool? I don't believe any anonymous posters over the internet unless they have undeniable proof. The only authority on this matter that has any weight is BioWare and we'll know the truth soon enough.

 

While some of the details of the leak may not be true (or true but wont be in the final game), I think the overall concept of us playing as a N7 Pathfinder in a new galaxy fits the bill of what Bioware has revealed about ME4 thus far such as:

- An emphasis on exploration [Pathfinder]
- Taking place in a "new region" of space never seen before. [Andromeda]

Except, you are conflating two different things that aren't the same. This "Pathfinder" comes from a shirt that BioWare Montreal posted about on Twitter: https://twitter.com/...993438799519744

 

N7 Operatives aren't explorers. They are highly-skilled soldiers trained for dangerous operations. Thus, what we have seen from screenshots of the protagonist armor, with an N7 emblem, does not match with the Pathfinder Arkcon emblem: http://i.kinja-img.c...pqsgigar4zd.png

 

I believe the two are mutually exclusive, which is why it's dangerous to just take this survey at face value. As far as exploring a "new region of space," that's so ambiguous it could mean anything. It could merely be a sector of the Milky Way we haven't explored. There is no reason to believe it's an entirely new galaxy. What we do know is there will be new planets will new species.

[Kabooooom]

You misunderstand, OP. My comment was directed NOT to your disbelief in it, but to your absolutist behavior thereafter. You're over the top. Excessive. It makes me wonder how you'll react if it turns out the leak is accurate.

It is clear that you don't just believe that the leak is inaccurate due to the lack of evidence supporting it, as of now - you clearly dont WANT it to be accurate. It is not the story you want. It is NOT the story you anticipated. It is not how you believe Mass Effect should be.

It almost makes me hope it is accurate, just so I can see your disappointment in the aftermath of the news.

Meanwhile, I know I will enjoy the new mass effect no matter what. I'm stoked for ANY news about the game, regardless of the story or setting. I dont care.

[BassStyles]

Well if anything, the leak has given the community something to actually talk about, since Bioware really isn't :-P

Also I do agree, I'm of the mindset that I don't believe things until an official confirmation. I've been misled one too many times before with leaks.

Curious thing though, I keep recalling back to when ol' Chris Priestly was running the joint around these here parts and mentioned how the Next ME doesn't have to come before or after. Or to the side of the previous trilogy.

So it makes me wonder exactly how the narrative will work with the supposed leak. How would they explain the continuity of it?

For reference: Link

[SwobyJ]

Whatever. We're just talking, man.

[SwobyJ]

Well if anything, the leak has given the community something to actually talk about, since Bioware really isn't :-P

Also I do agree, I'm of the mindset that I don't believe things until an official confirmation. I've been misled one too many times before with leaks.

Curious thing though, I keep recalling back to when ol' Chris Priestly was running the joint around these here parts and mentioned how the Next ME doesn't have to come before or after. Or to the side of the previous trilogy.

So it makes me wonder exactly how the narrative will work with the supposed leak. How would they explain the continuity of it?

For reference: Link

 

We'll just have to see..

[wolfhowwl]

I wouldn't trust Priestly any further than I could throw him.

[Revan Reborn]

You misunderstand, OP. My comment was directed NOT to your disbelief in it, but to your absolutist behavior thereafter. You're over the top. Excessive. It makes me wonder how you'll react if it turns out the leak is accurate.

It is clear that you don't just believe that the leak is inaccurate due to the lack of evidence supporting it, as of now - you clearly dont WANT it to be accurate. It is not the story you want. It is NOT the story you anticipated. It is not how you believe Mass Effect should be.

It almost makes me hope it is accurate, just so I can see your disappointment in the aftermath of the news.

Meanwhile, I know I will enjoy the new mass effect no matter what. I'm stoked for ANY news about the game, regardless of the story or setting. I dont care.

You are making quite a few assumptions then, friend. What I don't want is a "reboot" of a franchise that doesn't need a reboot. When only 1% of the Milky Way has been explored, why would we then go to a new galaxy? What bothers me is less the idea of the survey but more the fact people are so ready to throw away everything that has been Mass Effect up to this point because of an ending they did not agree with or see no way of resolving.

 

Again, the final scenes of the game with the grandfather and grandson even suggest that there is so much more to the Milky Way that has yet to be explored. Billions of stars-worth of possibilities with new life and new adventures. Why would BioWare throw all of that away when there is so much left undone?

 

The fact that you are hoping someone is disappointed over the internet because of something that "might" be true speaks a lot about your character. I'm glad you don't care. Why are you here again?

 

Well if anything, the leak has given the community something to actually talk about, since Bioware really isn't :-P

Also I do agree, I'm of the mindset that I don't believe things until an official confirmation. I've been misled one too many times before with leaks.

Curious thing though, I keep recalling back to when ol' Chris Priestly was running the joint around these here parts and mentioned how the Next ME doesn't have to come before or after. Or to the side of the previous trilogy.

So it makes me wonder exactly how the narrative will work with the supposed leak. How would they explain the continuity of it?

For reference: Link

That's typical, evasive PR. If we just look at the advancements in technology, the Mako, N7 armor, and the fact new species and planets will be discovered, this is obviously the future. How BioWare will explain this is the ultimate question. Whether it's merely a new sector of the Milky Way or an entirely new galaxy (which wouldn't even make sense from a technological standpoint), there will need to be an extensive explanation for us to buy into this new experience.

[Kabooooom]

It amuses me when people who are so sure of themselves and act like asses find out reality has a different plan in store for them, yes OP.

Perhaps that "speaks to my character". But meh, it's just Schadenfreude. Everyone experiences it to varying degrees.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It almost makes me hope it is accurate, just so I can see your disappointment in the aftermath of the news.

Why are you being a jerk?