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[B.Shep]

IT was wishful thinking from a bunch of people trying to deny the reality already presented to them.

Ark Theory is a speculative idea using what little we've been told to construct a scenario that allows the franchise to move forward without becoming entangled in the controversy of ME3's endings or getting dragged down in damage control. Nobody thinks it's set in stone, but it does fall in line with everything we know about the game so far, and thus seems like a good possibility.

But grabbing some shaddy survey and using it as evidence is whishful thinking. The same can be said about grabbing small pices of dev comments and use it as proof, that is essencially what people did with IT.

The only solid evidence we have about the next game is: "that there will be 2 new races". There is nothing about the game settings so far.

[NM_Che56]

My...that's a lot of text

 

T'would be a shame if I...

 

[Heimdall]

But grabbing some shaddy survey and using it as evidence is whishful thinking. The same can be said about grabbing small pices of dev comments and use it as proof, that is essencially what people did with IT.
The only solid evidence we have about the next game is: "that there will be 2 new races". There is nothing about the game settings so far.

Is anybody using it as evidence? I don't think anyone sees this as concrete confirmation or at least they shouldn't.

We know that there will be an exploration focus in a "new region of space". We know that there will be something called "Pathfinder" and " ARKCON". Do any of these things prove Ark Theory? No, but they do fall in line with it.

[Heimdall]

Funny. The IT people would say the exact same but just switch the theories around.

Just for one moment forget how much you don't want it to be true and think. ITers were actively trying to deny evidence put in front of them in an attempt to erase something they didn't like. Ark Theory uses evidence for speculation on something that hasn't happened yet.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Just for one moment forget how much you don't want it to be true and think. ITers were actively trying to deny evidence put in front of them in an attempt to erase something they didn't like. Ark Theory uses evidence for speculation on something that hasn't happened yet.

At least IT was following the lore. Ark Theory is not. 

[Heimdall]

At least IT was following the lore. Ark Theory is not.

Again, repetition of a lie does not make it true.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Again, repetition of a lie does not make it true.

What is already truth cannot be a lie. 

[Majestic Jazz]

On the contrary, there was no connection between DAO and DAII whatsoever. Other than Hawke being from Lothering, Cullen showing up and Kirkwall, and a few cameos from Alistair, Sandal, etc., there was virtually no connection between the two games. It wasn't until BioWare created the Dragon Age Keep, emulating the Mass Effect save import scheme, to try and connect all the dots together into one cohesive game. In other words, it was pure fan service to try and give people the illusion that their choices mattered, when things such as OGB, Alistair being king, etc. actually had little consequence or impact on the game. Now, folks essentially want another DAII, which is a new game that really has no parallels to its predecessor. We saw how that worked out last time...

Going to a new galaxy would be a reboot. Everything changes. The Terminus system was merely a new sector of the Milky Way. We still had access to familiar locations. In a new galaxy, there would be no connection to the Milky Way whatsoever. It is entirely starting over. BioWare will incorporate a few familiar species, but essentially everything would be brand new: races, worlds, etc., with little regard or respect for what made Mass Effect previously. This is far more than just "an escape from the events of the ME trilogy."

No, it would not be... We have explored 1% of the Milky Way. There were not many active Mass Relays and much of the galaxy was still unexplored. In other words, the events of the Shepard trilogy only had an impact on known sectors of space, not the entire galaxy (there are billions of stars that were never touched). BioWare doesn't need to "play it safe." They have created one of the most iconic franchises in recent video game history. Better to use what you have than start from scratch and hope people stay on board. You may be excited, but the idea of the Shepard trilogy having little to no effect and BioWare just inserting random fan service (look, there's an Asari, there's a Krogan, there's a Turian, this is Mass Effect after all) to go to a new galaxy is odd, not supported in the lore or any of the games, and unnecessary.

Well it is unfortunate that if this leak is true, that it will anger many fans including yourself. I for one is excited. I want the focus to be back on exploration. I felt that in DAI exploration felt boring and menial considering that we were the IQ and shouldnt be running around picking flowers and establishing camps.

With ME4, we are just a lone N7 exploring new corners of the universe. This is what I want Mass Effect to be about.

[The Elder King]

Well it is unfortunate that if this leak is true, that it will anger many fans including yourself. I for one is excited. I want the focus to be back on exploration. I felt that in DAI exploration felt boring and menial considering that we were the IQ and shouldnt be running around picking flowers and establishing camps.
With ME4, we are just a lone N7 exploring new corners of the universe. This is what I want Mass Effect to be about.

Judging by the leak we're not alone.

[dreamgazer]

Judging by the leak we're not alone.

Yeah, taking a look around the web, it seems the BSN (surprise, surprise) is the most polarized over the leak. A whole lot of people dig the idea of heading to Andromeda, and not as some defiant stand against ME3's endings.

[Nitrocuban]

No offense, but Revan Reborn reminds me of Luke Skywalker being told by Darth Vader "Luke I'm your father".

Hurt, defeated, denying loadly but deep inside knowing that it is the truth.

Get over it, it's just a game.

[Heimdall]

What is already truth cannot be a lie.

And calling calling something a truth does not make it so, do you really want to keep doing those?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And calling calling something a truth does not make it so, do you really want to keep doing those?

I do, since it is the truth according to the lore of the Mass Effect franchise. 

[Heimdall]

I do, since it is the truth according to the lore of the Mass Effect franchise.

As I've already explained in the other thread, the truth is firmly on my side in this matter. You have yet to prove your position.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

As I've already explained in the other thread, the truth is firmly on my side in this matter. You have yet to prove your position.

You have yet to prove anything for your position as well. Don't act like the cards are stacked in your favor.

[Lavros]

I don't think there is anything wrong with everyone expressing their opinions about the "leak" and discussing how it connects to the original trilogy or if it is in fact false.

 

Whether the rumor is true or not is of no consequence at this point any way and until more official information is released it will stay that way.

 

I do think it's wrong for people on both sides to become so aggressive about the topic that they almost seem to be taking it personally when their side is questioned on its validity.

 

There is no need to attack each other, we're all better than that.

[shepskisaac]

As far as the "monstrous development baggage," that's up to the writing team to decide how specific they want to address varying issues.

Well handled C&C needs to be specific and worth picking the other options.

[Heimdall]

You have yet to prove anything for your position as well. Don't act like the cards are stacked in your favor.

I've shown that the technology exists and reverse engineering is feasible. What have you showed.

Then again, don't answer here. Let's keep the argument confined to the other thread.

[Revan Reborn]

Well it is unfortunate that if this leak is true, that it will anger many fans including yourself. I for one is excited. I want the focus to be back on exploration. I felt that in DAI exploration felt boring and menial considering that we were the IQ and shouldnt be running around picking flowers and establishing camps.

With ME4, we are just a lone N7 exploring new corners of the universe. This is what I want Mass Effect to be about.

Angry? No. Disappointed? Yes. I, too, would like to see a return to exploration. That was one aspect I loved about the original Mass Effect. What I don't want to see happen is the Shepard trilogy shuffled under the rug like an old newspaper never to be seen again. That is nothing more than being disrespectful to the franchise and to the fans who have been with Mass Effect since its inception. No, I don't buy the fallacious argument that "avoiding the ME3 endings" is BioWare's way of respecting "player choice." BioWare certainly didn't seem to care when they brought Leliana back from the dead even though a portion of the community chopped her head off... BioWare is going to do what they want from a storytelling perspective regardless of what the players think.

 

No offense, but Revan Reborn reminds me of Luke Skywalker being told by Darth Vader "Luke I'm your father".

Hurt, defeated, denying loadly but deep inside knowing that it is the truth.

Get over it, it's just a game.

How can a rumor be true? I'm not sure you know what the definition of a rumor is. We will know what is true when BioWare reveals more information about the next Mass Effect.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with everyone expressing their opinions about the "leak" and discussing how it connects to the original trilogy or if it is in fact false.

 

Whether the rumor is true or not is of no consequence at this point any way and until more official information is released it will stay that way.

 

I do think it's wrong for people on both sides to become so aggressive about the topic that they almost seem to be taking it personally when their side is questioned on its validity.

 

There is no need to attack each other, we're all better than that.

This is BSN. We all suffer from Anakin Skywalker syndrome here. "You are either with me... or you are my enemy!" In all seriousness though, people get aggressive over the littlest things on these forums. It is unlike any other game forum that I have participated in.

[windsea]

The "leak" is exactly how would i go about making a hoax so yeah unless Bioware conform it i will not trust it.

 

 

 

Also as a Fallout fan i have loss all ability to trust.

[The Arbiter]

The "leak" is exactly how would i go about making a hoax so yeah unless Bioware conform it i will not trust it.

 

 

 

Also as a Fallout fan i have loss all ability to trust.

war... war never changes

[Majestic Jazz]

Why does Mass Effect have to be Commander Shepard centric? Mass Effect is a much larger universe and Shepard's story is just one of trillions that can be told.

[The Elder King]

Why does Mass Effect have to be Commander Shepard centric? Mass Effect is a much larger universe and Shepard's story is just one of trillions that can be told.

I don't think anyone against Andromeda or Another galaxy-setting have this as the reason behind their disapproval.

[CroGamer002]

Man I hope you're right OP. It would put my mind to ease.

[Arcian]

Folks, what I've been seeing on here the past couple of days due to this questionable survey is quite disturbing. There is no evidence. No credibility. Nothing anywhere to believe that any of this survey has credence and should even be considered.

You mean besides well known, seldom incorrect industry insiders?