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Ark Theory and survey rumors aren't true until BioWare says they are.


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#151
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Like it or not guys, this this leak seems to be true.

Better start getting over it now and spare us all the whining after E3, kay?



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No.



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Why does Mass Effect have to be Commander Shepard centric? Mass Effect is a much larger universe and Shepard's story is just one of trillions that can be told.

When have I, or anyone else against going to another galaxy, ever advocated for a return to the Shepard story? On the contrary, what many are actually advocating for is to not completely reboot a franchise that doesn't need a reboot. We want to further expand on a galaxy, the Milky Way, that has barely even been touched. Yes, it would even be nice if there was some causal link (regardless of how minute) between the new game and the Shepard trilogy. No, there is not any valid justification for going to an entirely new galaxy when there is no adequate reason for it.

 

You mean besides well known, seldom incorrect industry insiders?

Yes. Tell us more about these "seldom incorrect industry insiders." I keep hearing about how reliable they are, yet no one seems to actually give names nor sources to why these people should be believed. There's only one source that matters with regard to Mass Effect: BioWare. Anything else from anyone else is purely speculation and rumor until proven otherwise.


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Just something regarding the survey. According to shinobi on neogaf, the survey was ment for after a big announcement. Probably for marketing.

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Just something regarding the survey. According to shinobi on neogaf, the survey was ment for after a big announcement. Probably for marketing.

Who is "shinobi" and why should that name have relevance? Unless he/she works for BioWare, I don't see how he/she would know when a survey was meant to be released.



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Who is "shinobi" and why should that name have relevance? Unless he/she works for BioWare, I don't see how he/she would know when a survey was meant to be released.

Apparently someone with a track record for accuracy with leaks of similar nature.

So I'm told anyway, I don't really know myself.

#157
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@Heimdall

Is there a thread that details Ark Theory? Sources, technology, feasibility and lore-friendliness are the topics I'm the most interested in, but anything else will be a welcome addition. Or if there isn't, maybe you'll agree to discuss it via PM?



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Is there a thread that details Ark Theory? Sources, technology, feasibility and lore-friendliness are the topics I'm the most interested in, but anything else will be a welcome addition. Or if there isn't, maybe you'll agree to discuss it via PM?

There was an Ark Theory thread I wrote a long post elaborating on it on. Give me a moment to find it and I'll give you a link.

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http://forum.bioware...y/?fromsearch=1

Here you go, I wrote a long post on the first page that serves as a a decent summary. This was originally all spurred by that teaser video and the not-Milky Way looking Galaxy map that showed up. At the time they hadn't even released the images of that Pathfinder/ARKCON patch, but we felt it all fell in line with the theory.

One thing I don't really talk about in that thread is the possibility of reverse engineering Reaper technology, but that's also a possibility. (All that might be moot since they could be going the wormhole route of the new tweeted image is any indication)

There isn't actually any outright proof of Ark Theory, just a bunch of things that seem to line up and seem logical of the dev team has certain goals in mind.
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Are BioWare going to reboot?

Of course not, they are not going to disrespect ME1-3, heck they may even release an HD version to capitalise on the impending new game.

 

What makes perfect sense is that the plot does not tread on the footprints of Shepard and company,

simply to avoid the complexity of dealing with every loose end and ramification.

 

These are not rocket science conclusions regardless of whether

this specific leak is credible or not.


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#161
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Apparently someone with a track record for accuracy with leaks of similar nature.

So I'm told anyway, I don't really know myself.


There was a big post in one of the recent rumour threads, may have been the deleted thread, anyway they're supposedly someone with contacts in the industry with a good track record of being reliable on this kind of stuff. Wish I could find the post, it had links to a bunch of specific instances around the web. Post was by JeffZero I think. Hard to search for it from my phone sorry.

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Are BioWare going to reboot?

Of course not, they are not going to disrespect ME1-3, heck they may even release an HD version to capitalise on the impending new game.

 

What makes perfect sense is that the plot does not tread on the footprints of Shepard and company,

simply to avoid the complexity of dealing with every loose end and ramification.

 

These are not rocket science conclusions regardless of whether

this specific leak is credible or not.

I think you miss the point here though. BioWare games aren't about avoiding player choices. They are about seeing those player choices have consequences and how they impact the future. That has been the trademark of every Mass Effect game, as it started the trend. I'm not asking for an in-depth explanation of everything that has happened since ME3. I'm merely suggesting there should be some connections and parallels from the old to the new. That is common sense in any sequel, whether it's direct or not. To completely avoid the past altogether is to disrespect it, regardless of how you try to frame it.


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http://forum.bioware...y/?fromsearch=1

Here you go, I wrote a long post on the first page that serves as a a decent summary. This was originally all spurred by that teaser video and the not-Milky Way looking Galaxy map that showed up. At the time they hadn't even released the images of that Pathfinder/ARKCON patch, but we felt it all fell in line with the theory.

One thing I don't really talk about in that thread is the possibility of reverse engineering Reaper technology, but that's also a possibility. (All that might be moot since they could be going the wormhole route of the new tweeted image is any indication)

There isn't actually any outright proof of Ark Theory, just a bunch of things that seem to line up and seem logical of the dev team has certain goals in mind.

Thanks! :)



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I think you miss the point here though. BioWare games aren't about avoiding player choices. They are about seeing those player choices have consequences and how they impact the future. That has been the trademark of every Mass Effect game, as it started the trend. I'm not asking for an in-depth explanation of everything that has happened since ME3. I'm merely suggesting there should be some connections and parallels from the old to the new. That is common sense in any sequel, whether it's direct or not. To completely avoid the past altogether is to disrespect it, regardless of how you try to frame it.

 

I'm not sure I do miss the point, taking the focus elsewhere does not have to denude the new game of all past consequences, in fact some of the party members may have different plot content or history depending on those choices.

 

It is perfectly possible to retain some connections and parallels, but by placing the field of exploration elsewhere would limit or contain the work involved in dealing with it to a manageable level.

 

In short, it will be down to how it is done, if it is done, but conceptually it makes sense to me.



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Mass Effect : Shepard Chronicles is over. 

 

Now, it's time for Mass Effect : Andromeda Chronicles to begin.

 

Hopefully you can tell the difference.



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Saying that the leak isn't true, even if the evidences goes against that, is just wishful thinking, you may not believe it, but that doesn't mean the leak isn't legit. It may be. Be prepared.
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Who is "shinobi" and why should that name have relevance? Unless he/she works for BioWare, I don't see how he/she would know when a survey was meant to be released.

 

Shinobi

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I think you miss the point here though. BioWare games aren't about avoiding player choices. They are about seeing those player choices have consequences and how they impact the future. That has been the trademark of every Mass Effect game, as it started the trend. I'm not asking for an in-depth explanation of everything that has happened since ME3. I'm merely suggesting there should be some connections and parallels from the old to the new. That is common sense in any sequel, whether it's direct or not. To completely avoid the past altogether is to disrespect it, regardless of how you try to frame it.

 

The problem here is that the choices in ME3 are beyond the scope of BioWare's games to deal with. Besides destroying entire races the ending allows the player to completely change the setting.

 

If you tried to do the traditional save import the results would be lackluster to the point of being insulting as well as creating an enormous amount of baggage when the focus should be on making a new story with new choices.

 

If you're committed to not choosing a canon slate of choices as well as not making a prequel/"interquel" then your options really narrow to what we might be getting.



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Shinobi

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Shinobi also said the Order would be good.

 

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#170
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I've been thinking on this alot today, and I've found I can accept this but only if it's temporary(Andromeda I mean). It could be a chance for a good "return to Milky Way" game/story to be worked on and after 1 or 2 Andromeda games we return and between time passing and a good deal of time to come up with ways to acknowledge(wether in big ways or smaller ways I don't care) our choices. I'm probably not gonna buy MENext until it's on sale under $30(if E3 doesn't manage to make me believe), just because it isn't giving off the ME vibe, at least not yet.



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Every time I come by to read this thread, this pic I found last week comes to mind:

 

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Mass Effect : Shepard Chronicles is over.

Now, it's time for Mass Effect : Andromeda Chronicles to begin.

Hopefully you can tell the difference.



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Who is "shinobi" and why should that name have relevance? Unless he/she works for BioWare, I don't see how he/she would know when a survey was meant to be released.

http://www.destructo...ed-290680.phtml

http://www.onlysp.co...-trust-insider/

 

Obviously it doesn't mean 100% true but shouldn't be surprised why many people believe shinobi. Especially with 2 other well-regarded GAF posters sayign the same thing



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http://www.destructo...ed-290680.phtml

http://www.onlysp.co...-trust-insider/

 

Obviously it doesn't mean 100% true but shouldn't be surprised why many people believe shinobi. Especially with 2 other well-regarded GAF posters sayign the same thing

Interestingly enough, the predictions he was true on do not involve storyline and setting, such as this rumor. 


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I think you miss the point here though. BioWare games aren't about avoiding player choices. They are about seeing those player choices have consequences and how they impact the future. That has been the trademark of every Mass Effect game, as it started the trend. I'm not asking for an in-depth explanation of everything that has happened since ME3. I'm merely suggesting there should be some connections and parallels from the old to the new. That is common sense in any sequel, whether it's direct or not. To completely avoid the past altogether is to disrespect it, regardless of how you try to frame it.

 

There's no way they could carry on with that indefinitely. Somewhere they have to draw a line. That line was ME3's ending.