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[thats1evildude]

Well, obviously the darkspawn would be left. Of course, if they didn't have anyone left to kill, would they just turn on each other?

[ModernAcademic]

The thing is, it's not the dragons who call the darkspawn, but the piece of divine soul within them.

That's what behind the Calling as well.

[Daerog]

With the destruction of Thedas and the Fade-influenced life on Thedas, the Fade itself would be greatly impacted as well.

 

The Veil itself may be so sundered by the omnicide of Thedas, that the assault may continue into the Fade.

 

So, all creation would end.

 

The Maker may decide to start over by that point... or something...

 

I'm curious as to why the Promisers have not embraced the blight.

[Zarathiel]

The Blight's purpose is the same as the Chant of Light's.

 

To spread to every corner of the world.

[thats1evildude]

I'm curious as to why the Promisers have not embraced the blight.

The Promisers want the world to "end" so that it could start anew. Presumably, that means there will be actual survivors of this apocalypse. What they want is closer to Ragnarok, when the world does end but mankind continues.

The Blight offers no chance of rebirth. The darkspawn will destroy all life if given the chance. The Empty Ones agreed with that goal.

[Antergaton]

Population control.

[Patient.Zero]

We don't know that the Old Gods are the source of the calling. And even if they are, it may not be their desire to emit the song. It could very well be part of their nature.

For all we know, the Taint could be a tool intended to kill off the Old Gods. Maybe the Darkspawn are simply tuned to find them.

 

That's and intersting thought. It raises the question of what the taint is in relation to the calling, if not apart of some grand plan. 

[Patient.Zero]

My bet is that there are powerful spirits in the Fade, hidden in the Black City, even trapped, who keep calling for those who can hear -either through the lyrium, the taint or magic (mages hear spirits and can travel in the Fade) to go there and free them.

Does that ring any bells? The Elven Gods, trapped in the Beyond by Fen Harel, perhaps?

 

I feel sorry for Soals then. Excluding Mythal that means only two of his kin are left. 

[Reznore57]

From the Chantry point of view the Blight is a punishment humanity brought on themselves.

Eventually the Maker will forgive the magister's sin and end all this.

 

The truth is no one really know much about the Blight.Well maybe the Elven Gods know more , but they aren't telling anything.

The Blight could have been created by accident or with a purpose , or perhaps it was always part of the world.

[Antergaton]

From the Chantry point of view the Blight is a punishment humanity brought on themselves.

Eventually the Maker will forgive the magister's sin and end all this.

 

The truth is no one really know much about the Blight.Well maybe the Elven Gods know more , but they aren't telling anything.

The Blight could have been created by accident or with a purpose , or perhaps it was always part of the world.

 

Or The Maker created it as punishment for the magister's entering his place of residence. Revealing the truth of the Blight's formation puts The Maker's existance in doubt and as Gaider said they would never confirm whether The Maker exists or not, they cannot reveal the truth about the Blights either.

[X Equestris]

Asking where the Void/Abyss is, is like asking where the Fade is.

People can at least interact with the Fade. No such thing is possible with the Abyss.

[X Equestris]

My bet is that there are powerful spirits in the Fade, hidden in the Black City, even trapped, who keep calling for those who can hear -either through the lyrium, the taint or magic (mages hear spirits and can travel in the Fade) to go there and free them.
Does that ring any bells? The Elven Gods, trapped in the Beyond by Fen Harel, perhaps?
 
This is the central theme of my fanfic, Nightmares of Red Stone, btw. From the 2nd Arc forward, the mystery of the taint, red lyrium, the Magisters and the fall of Arlathan, sa well as the final destiny of the Elven Pantheon will all be approached.

Not only are the Elven gods said to be trapped in the Fade, they're more specifically said to be trapped in the Eternal City. What could that be, if not the thing we know as the Black City?

[Inex]

We don't know the point of the blights yet, other than the darkspawn wanting to destroy/taint the whole world.

 

To answer your question we need to know what exactly happened to the old gods, what is the 'golden city' (was it ever golden at some point?) and what is it's relation to the taint. We don't even know what exactly happened to the elven people, the elven 'gods' and their possible relation to the taint/old gods. We don't even know (and probably never will) if the Maker really exists.

 

What do we know anyway? History in DA universe has been lost or changed to satisfy the chantry. Maybe answers can be found in tevinter or by asking ancient elven survivors and studying the temple of mythal.

[X Equestris]

We don't know the point of the blights yet, other than the darkspawn wanting to destroy/taint the whole world.
 
To answer your question we need to know what exactly happened to the old gods, what is the 'golden city' (was it ever golden at some point?) and what is it's relation to the taint. We don't even know what exactly happened to the elven people, the elven 'gods' and their possible relation to the taint/old gods. We don't even know (and probably never will) if the Maker really exists.
 
What do we know anyway? History in DA universe has been lost or changed to satisfy the chantry. Maybe answers can be found in tevinter or by asking ancient elven survivors and studying the temple of mythal.

To answer the question about the Golden City, yes there was a point where it was verifiably golden, at least from the outside. It may have contained corruption on the inside, or it may have been entirely golden before the Magisters.

[Dai Grepher]

Forgive me for my lack of understanding, I'm just a bit confused as to what the goal of a blight is. 

 

If they do intend to be turned into archdemons, what is their end game?

 

Mayhem!

 

MAYHEM!!!

 

MAAAAAAAAYHEEEEEMMMMM!!!!!

 

Seriously though, I don't think the old gods want to be blighted and turned into archdemons, but I think most of them have preferred this over remaining trapped underground forever.

 

It's also possible that the old god's soul remains somewhat in control. Darkspawn Chronicles shows the archdemon giving commands to the darkspawn generals. So maybe it retains some level of awareness and consciousness.

 

I'm sure the old gods are also angry at the Maker for imprisoning them, and simply want to destroy everything in the world as retribution.

[Big I]

To answer the question about the Golden City, yes there was a point where it was verifiably golden, at least from the outside. It may have contained corruption on the inside, or it may have been entirely golden before the Magisters.

 

There's no first hand accounts of that, only the Chant. Corypheus says the Black City was already Black when he got there, which was about three or four hundred years before the beginning of the Chantry calendar. In the Watchguard of the Reaching codex entry from DA:O you can read a brief paragraph written by a pre-Circle mage of Kinloch Hold who wandered the Fade, and the city was Black during their travels

[X Equestris]

There's no first hand accounts of that, only the Chant. Corypheus says the Black City was already Black when he got there, which was about three or four hundred years before the beginning of the Chantry calendar. In the Watchguard of the Reaching codex entry from DA:O you can read a brief paragraph written by a pre-Circle mage of Kinloch Hold who wandered the Fade, and the city was Black during their travels

Word of God confirmed it. I know it's not in any of the games, but Gaider overrules that.

Also, it's simple logic. You can see the Black City from any point in the Fade, so long as you are "outside". It stands to reason that seeing the city as golden is where the idea of that came from.

[Toasted Llama]

Dunno if this has already been mentioned before, but I think asking "what's the point of the Blight" is about as equal as asking "what's the point in living?"


I mean, that's all the darkspawn do really... Try to reproduce and continue the species, albeit by using rather brutal means to accomplish that. Although not much more brutal than a parasite or a virus when you think about it.

[Patient.Zero]

Living has a point though, at least form a biological standpoint. I suppose I just figured that since the Bight is such an integral part of the Dragon Age world there would be some kind of point behind it.

[X Equestris]

Living has a point though, at least form a biological standpoint. I suppose I just figured that since the Bight is such an integral part of the Dragon Age world there would be some kind of point behind it. I

There might be, but we certainly don't have anything concrete on it.

[PsychoBlonde]

I have a speculative theory that the Blight is an ancient weapon that was created to make it possible to kill a god, which is why the Darkspawn are driven to dig up the Old Gods and corrupt them--rendering it possible for Grey Wardens to kill them.  This is also why Flemeth/Mythal is interested in the Blight--perhaps it was created by a jealous rival and used to "murder" Mythal.  Perhaps it was sealed in the Black City by the other gods (or maybe just Solas) in an attempt to prevent a wholesale catastrophe.

 

If it was intended as a weapon, this would explain why the magisters who went to the Black City have control over it--and the way in which they can use it.

[Lethaya]

To answer the question about the Golden City, yes there was a point where it was verifiably golden, at least from the outside. It may have contained corruption on the inside, or it may have been entirely golden before the Magisters.

 

Personally, I think it might even have only appeared golden even as it was the Black City due to memories and dreams of what it once was distorting its representation in the Fade. That is, before Cory and Co. revealed its true state to the world by taking their little trip and contracting the Blight. Headcanoning, yes, but it's a possibility. The Fade and what is seen there isn't all that reliable, basically. XD

[Bob Walker]

I hope we'll have all the answers before the eventual end of the Dragon Age franchise.

[Aren]

Darkspawn are creature filled with a compulsion (with the word compulsion you must think something like the gas that surrond the well of sorrow).

This compulsion is the taint, a magical source  that allow to cast spell without the interaction of the fade, which is in fact a realm that belong to Spirits,Demons and the elven gods.

However few have managed to absorb the taint and control that power, Grey Wardens,Corypheus,The Archtect,every other tainted creatures is in fact insane.

There is a link between the Old gods song and the taint

 

1)this means that the taint can be a mean created by the old gods to try to manipulate a new magical source

 

2)or that the taint is simply a weapon created by some creators to kill the other gods

 

3)or that the taint is not related to any gods,but is in fact  a natural force of thedas.

 

Is speculated that the pure essence of the taint is the void, a power searched for some reason from the elven gods, but none of them was capable to return from that realm,if i'm not mistaken ,Andruil has tried to unlock that power without success.

 

Keep in mind that the taint is alive like Lyrium but more powerful (emissaries and disciples can cast spell with the power of their blood) and form a link between all the tainted creatures only darkspawn and senior GW are capable to understand the language of an Archdemon,that the player can "hear" only in the darkspawn chronicles dlc.

Archdemons are commanded by the taint and not by their souls which provide only the will necessary to lead the horde.

[Navasha]

Well, I believe that taint is a long drawn out way that the old gods are using to free themselves from their imprisonment.    It was the old gods that first whispered to men about blood magic.   It was the old gods who tasked the Tevinter priests to seek out the Black City.   Why?   To free themselves from where they are imprisoned below ground.   The blight spreads and they seek out the imprisoned gods.   Sure they become tainted.   They don't care.   The body is only a vessel.   When that body dies they are freed to go back to the fade or whatever realm they may inhabit.   In time they probably can reform or be reborn.    Time is inconsequential to them.   Who cares if the blight takes 10,000 years to work.    Clearly Fen'harel seems concerned about the deaths of the Old Gods releasing an even greater peril upon the world.   Death is not the end of the immortal. 

 

That's my guess anyway.