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dantares83

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Please, no more MP in BioWare games, they add no value whatsoever and takes away resources. and God be da**ed if this was announced to be a full MMORPG game like the Star Wars (im sorry but it is crap) they made a few years back.

 

I mean I admit MP in ME3 (which they forced us to play to get a 'better' ending) and DAI are good time-killers but do not include them with the main game.

 

either be kind and include as a free add-on or try to make money out of it by assigning an entire team to it so that people who like to play those type of games can have better quality because they dont mind paying for it. It could be a spin-off and Im sure die-hard fans will still buy and try but don't include in the main game!

 

Don't waste any more resources for these MP and destroy a potential good game.


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"they add no value whatsoever"

 

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Please, no more MP in BioWare games, they add no value whatsoever and takes away resources. and God be da**ed if this was announced to be a full MMORPG game like the Star Wars (im sorry but it is crap) they made a few years back.

I mean I admit ME3 (which they forced us to play to get a 'better' ending) and DAI are good time-killers but do not include them with the game.

either be kind and include as a free add-on or try to make money out of it by assigning an entire team to it so that people who like to play those type of games can have better quality if they want to pay for it. It could be a spin-off and Im sure die-hard fans will still buy and try but don't include in the main game!

Don't waste any more resources for these MP and destroy a potential good game.


I kind of strongly agree with Dantares83.

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I kind of enjoy the multiplayer in ME3. The idea of having it tie into the campaign to get a "perfect ending" is a bit odd but and I feel it wasn't thought out very much before they put it on the disc but I like the idea of being able to play in the ME universe with other human people, I hope they expand on it on the next game and give us something more than just horde mode. Would be a bit unhappy if they gave us PvP, though, that would ruin the ME spirit for me.


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I was very much against MP. After spending 430 hours at it and enjoyed every single minute of it, playing asari, krogan, salarians, turians and even batarians and volus, all I can say is... please bring it back.

 

If it retains the same quality, that is.

 

I agree that tying MP to SP is bad idea. So lets do away with that. But if you honestly expect the ME:N not to have a MP, after the success that the third game MP had, well, quite honestly... you're naive.


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Why do these threads always come back?

 

Also lol@ "Free ad-on". It is free. DAIMP was free, ME3MP was free. 'twas all free.



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The only reason I want ME4, is for the MP. I can't picture a ME game without MP anymore.

 

But with Dragon Age... I don't think MP fit in anyway to that type of game. Maybe if they had done something different or better to it. 


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As long as it is TOTALLY detached from SP then I don't have problem with MP.

 

But TOTALLY means TOTALLY....not like in the leak where you get weapons and other loot to use in SP if you play MP. That sucks.

 

DAI did it right. MP was in the game but you did not see any mention of it inside the story or exploration. Keep it like DAI and i'm fine with it.


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It's going to happen. So better get used to the idea.

 

Thankfully, BioWare seems to have recognized the ME 3 multiplayer effect on singleplayer for the titanically moronic decision it was.



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I bet the main reason Mass Effect 3 has multiplayer is because EA was like, "how can we get a few extra bucks from Mass Effect fans?"

"I know! Let's just have them shoot things online and release a bunch of guns and maps as DLC!"

Multiplayer can kiss my singleplayer-lovin' butt. You hear me EA?! I would rather have a long story with many paths, adventure, exploration, features, and dialogue, than go through those lather, rinse, repeat secessions online!
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I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the ME3 multiplayer. I would welcome multiplayer if it is of the same quality as ME3's or better. Don't connect it to sp though.

 

Also the resources that you are complaining about don't work that way. Budget and time is not taken away from the singleplayer devs and given to the multiplayer devs. Additional resources are given to Bioware to make the multiplayer. If there was no multiplayer, Bioware would never get those additional resources. Before you say "Just give those resources to the singleplayer devs", that's not how funding works.


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As long as it is TOTALLY detached from SP then I don't have problem with MP.

 

But TOTALLY means TOTALLY....not like in the leak where you get weapons and other loot to use in SP if you play MP. That sucks.

 

DAI did it right. MP was in the game but you did not see any mention of it inside the story or exploration. Keep it like DAI and i'm fine with it.

 

I preferred how it worked in ME3, to be honest, when compared to DAI.

 

I've stopped playing DAI-MP now because it doesn't mean anything. If every time you promoted a character or succeeded on a non-routine mission you got a little bit of gold or resources in the SP game, that would probably have kept me playing.

 

Now, how much the ME4MP segment should influence the SP game, that's is an interesting question. For me, no elements of the SP game should be unavailable because they didn't play MP. But I don't have a problem with the MP enriching that game experience.

 

Hey, it's the internets and everyone's got an opinion.


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I bet the main reason Mass Effect 3 has multiplayer is because EA was like, "how can we get a few extra bucks from Mass Effect fans?"

"I know! Let's just have them shoot things online and release a bunch of guns and maps as DLC!"

 

If EA really had a hand in it, you would be paying for that DLC, but instead it was free. And it was good DLC to boot.


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I have to strongly disagree. I love ME3MP and I hope the new one gets it too. If the combat is just as good or better than ME3 then I think it'll be a success. The problem for me with DAIMP is that after playing the campaign I didn't want to experience more of the combat, in oposition yesterday I felt like it and played another match of ME3MP and had 25mins of fun, even if I was rusty.

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I preferred how it worked in ME3, to be honest, when compared to DAI.

 

I've stopped playing DAI-MP now because it doesn't mean anything. If every time you promoted a character or succeeded on a non-routine mission you got a little bit of gold or resources in the SP game, that would probably have kept me playing.

 

Now, how much the ME4MP segment should influence the SP game, that's is an interesting question. For me, no elements of the SP game should be unavailable because they didn't play MP. But I don't have a problem with the MP enriching that game experience.

 

Hey, it's the internets and everyone's got an opinion.

 

ME3 without DLCs locked you out of the best ending if you didn't play MP and it was forced down our throat because of the galactic readiness BS reminding us that we shall play MP to bring it to 100% with in game SP dialogue with Hackett (that totally killed my immersion).

I personally don't play MP as I find it boring. DAI MP didn't affect the story and the content you can access to and that was a good thing. People liking MP can knock themselves out with it and people like me not liking MP can outright ignore it. It's a win-win situation. Keep things separate to keep everyone happy. It's a fair compromise.



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ME3 without DLCs locked you out of the best ending if you didn't play MP and it was forced down our throat because of the galactic readiness BS reminding us that we shall play MP to bring it to 100% with in game SP dialogue with Hackett (that totally killed my immersion).

I personally don't play MP as I find it boring. DAI MP didn't affect the story and the content you can access to and that was a good thing. People liking MP can knock themselves out with it and people like me not liking MP can outright ignore it. It's a win-win situation. Keep things separate to keep everyone happy. It's a fair compromise.

 

Appreciate your comments, and agree that there shouldn't ever be a situation, like there was at the start IIRC, where it was hard to get the readiness high enough without playing MP. I don't have an issue with MP providing a background/supplementary benefit but not when it directly affects the core game experience proper.

 

I can go one further - why not have an option when you start a new game, to 'Allow MP experience to boost SP'? That way it also a win-win situation - those who want MP to effect the main SP game in some way can benefit from it, while those that don't want to play MP aren't penalised in any way when they play SP.

 

Surely that's the fairest way to do it?



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I don't play ME3MP it's just not for me. I also don't believe there's a way to include it without negatively impacting on SP. I know it's been said that funding and resources don't work that way but I don't see how that's possible when the assets are shared between the two modes. Every time something new is created, it will be someone's job to say, "Can we use that/Will that work in multiplayer?" As they build the game from the ground up, everything they do will have to take MP into consideration. MP makes a lot of back end money so while the SP experience might be the no.1 priority, MP is still a top priority.

 

HOWEVER, I understand that many, many people love it and Bioware will sell more games because of it so I say go for it. Just don't let it it be linked to the SP experience in any way, please.  


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Please, no more MP in BioWare games, they add no value whatsoever...

 

The multiplayer subforum begs to differ. It added tons of enjoyment for a lot of people.


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I don't like multiplayer but realise that battle is lost.

The fight is to make sure it doesn't impinge on the single player experience at all.


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I honestly doubt we'll see a Bioware game without MP from Now on. Hopefully they'll follow DAI in regards of making it separate from SP.
As for its value, while I don't Personally care much about it many people enjoyed it (in ME3 at least. I have no clue about DAI).

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I enjoy ME3's horde mode but was expecting some genuine innovation here which is disappointing after all the years of feedback and gameplay hours logged by the community.

After you get used to gold and platinum gameplay single player gameplay feels so tame and pedestrian - it's hard to go back to regular old insanity. I think you single player only types are going to be in for a rude awakening with the difficulty curve of the next game if you haven't kept up with ME3MP over the years.

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there was a job posting about a multiplayer programmer or something. It's all but guaranteed there'll be mp.

Edit: it was actually a online producer https://mobile.twitt...601424621723648

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I bet the main reason Mass Effect 3 has multiplayer is because EA was like, "how can we get a few extra bucks from Mass Effect fans?"

"I know! Let's just have them shoot things online and release a bunch of guns and maps as DLC!"

 

There were five MP DLCs, in no particular order: Earth, Rebellion, Resurgence, Retaliation and Reckoning. All of them added a lot of value, characters, weapons, maps... a lot of things that made the MEverse richer by addition. Each and every one of them was a great DLC in it's own right.

 

None of them costed a cent.


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Why do these threads always come back?

 

Also lol@ "Free ad-on". It is free. DAIMP was free, ME3MP was free. 'twas all free.

 

you are naive if you think it is free. Resources are allocated for the MP where these resources should have been spent on improving SP. and the recommended retail price has taken account to this 'resource'.

 

so NO, conc on the SP and if people like the MP so much, they can create another game for it. we might even get it at $10 cheaper.