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[liquiddemon]

I'm all for it.
I know about mankinds rise to a space faring civilization. I know the history of the Milky Way going back millions of years. How the reapers have ruled the Galaxy. I know about epic battles between alien races through out the history of our cycle. The history was all there and I love it all. I know Shepards rise and fall(destroy in my universe and i choose to believe he made it outta that rubble)(sorry edi I loved you). I know the Milky Way and I had the greatest adventure conquering the The galaxy's greatest threat. And I've imagined and speculated what the future holds for my version of the Galaxy.
Closure.

When people came across the Atlantic to settle the new world Britain and Europe didn't become erased or deleted or pointless. It's history and its culture still existed. I feel the same for sailing the great sea of space to settle this new Galaxy. I would still know the Milky Way exists and remember the events that unfolded there.

Imagine the possibilities of new alien races, civilizations, and new lore. The brand new lore of an alien Galaxy that we get to discover.
Into the great unknown.

If the leak is true,
Let's do this Bioware!

[Revan Reborn]

I'm all for it.
I know about mankinds rise to a space faring civilization. I know the history of the Milky Way going back millions of years. How the reapers have ruled the Galaxy. I know about epic battles between alien races through out the history of our cycle. The history was all there and I love it all. I know Shepards rise and fall(destroy in my universe and i choose to believe he made it outta that rubble)(sorry edi I loved you). I know the Milky Way and I had the greatest adventure conquering the The galaxy's greatest threat. And I've imagined and speculated what the future holds for my version of the Galaxy.
Closure.

When people came across the Atlantic to settle the new world Britain and Europe didn't become erased or deleted or pointless. It's history and its culture still existed. I feel the same for sailing the great sea of space to settle this new Galaxy. I would still know the Milky Way exists and remember the events that unfolded there.

Imagine the possibilities of new alien races, civilizations, and new lore. The brand new lore of an alien Galaxy that we get to discover.
Into the great unknown.

If the leak is true,
Let's do this Bioware!

"You know nothing, Jon Snow."

 

You experienced 1% of the Milky Way. I'd hardly call you, or anyone else, an expert by merely spending three years in it through the Shepard trilogy. There is still much to learn. Moving to an entirely different galaxy "just for fun" is a wasted opportunity, not technologically practical, and not sensible from a storytelling perspective. When did George Lucas ever decide to just randomly change to a different galaxy after the original Star Wars trilogy? When did Gene Roddenberry decide to just randomly change to a different galaxy after the original Star Trek? Oh wait... They didn't... Why should Mass Effect when technology is not nearly as advanced as these other franchises? Questions.

[Majestic Jazz]

"You know nothing, Jon Snow."

You experienced 1% of the Milky Way. I'd hardly call you, or anyone else, an expert by merely spending three years in it through the Shepard trilogy. There is still much to learn. Moving to an entirely different galaxy "just for fun" is a wasted opportunity, not technologically practical, and not sensible from a storytelling perspective. When did George Lucas ever decide to just randomly change to a different galaxy after the original Star Wars trilogy? When did Gene Roddenberry decide to just randomly change to a different galaxy after the original Star Trek? Oh wait... They didn't... Why should Mass Effect when technology is not nearly as advanced as these other franchises? Questions.

Your examples about Star Wars and Star Trek doesnt hold ground in this situation cause these galaxies were not drastically altered due to a major war.

How can we return to the Milky Way when the events are so varied? If I did the control ending, OP did Synthesis, and you did Destroy, how can Bioware make a game that takes place in the Milky Way that addresses our choice of ending without conflicting with one another or using any times of major retcons?

[DextroDNA]

No, Bioware let's not "do this" and leave behind the rich universe you've built up over almost a decade.

 

Milky Way ftw

[Revan Reborn]

Your examples about Star Wars and Star Trek doesnt hold ground in this situation cause these galaxies were not drastically altered due to a major war.

How can we return to the Milky Way when the events are so varied? If I did the control ending, OP did Synthesis, and you did Destroy, how can Bioware make a game that takes place in the Milky Way that addresses our choice of ending without conflicting with one another or using any times of major retcons?

That's where the issue here lies. You assume the Milky Way was "drastically altered due to a major war." Again, the energy from the Citadel only went to active relays around the galaxy. There weren't that many and much of the galaxy was still unexplored. Thus, regardless of which color you chose, it would have a minute impact on the entire galaxy. Where it did have a large impact was known space. Those are two entirely different things and you realize that ME3 was not nearly as "final" as many have assumed it to be.

 

There doesn't need to be a retcon. I can solve your problems for you. The reapers go back to dark space, like they always do. The glowing eyes in Synthesis wear off after a period of time due to being infused with a new DNA. There. Every galaxy state is still respected while all are similar enough for more stories to be told without a "canon ending." If I can come up with that in a couple seconds, don't you think BioWare could do the same if not better?

[Kabooooom]

That's where the issue here lies. You assume the Milky Way was "drastically altered due to a major war." Again, the energy from the Citadel only went to active relays around the galaxy. There weren't that many and much of the galaxy was still unexplored. Thus, regardless of which color you chose, it would have a minute impact on the entire galaxy. Where it did have a large impact was known space. Those are two entirely different things and you realize that ME3 was not nearly as "final" as many have assumed it to be.

Nowhere is it shown or stated that the blast of the Crucible ONLY went to active relays of the galaxy. For Destroy or Control this isn't an issue, but indeed, that would be quite an idiotic "solution" to the Catalyst's little problem with regards to Synthesis as it allows the possibility of undiscovered races beyond the known network circumventing Synthesis. Furthermore, while some may say it was just an animation, it exists as evidence against your claim - the energy is observed to spread thousands of light years from each relay node across the galaxy. Clearly, it extends into the space not covered by relays.

This entire paragraph was headcanon on your behalf. But if you could provide quotes from the devs (as it certainly was not in-game) that state otherwise, I would be interested.

[Nohvarr]

No, Bioware let's not "do this" and leave behind the rich universe you've built up over almost a decade.

 

Milky Way ftw

Andromeda or bust!

[Heimdall]

"You know nothing, Jon Snow."
 
You experienced 1% of the Milky Way. I'd hardly call you, or anyone else, an expert by merely spending three years in it through the Shepard trilogy. There is still much to learn.

You say that as if the other 99% weren't a blank slate just like Andromeda.

[Nohvarr]

Explorer: If you're having war troubles I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but the Reapers ain't one!

[dreamgazer]

Unless, of course, Andromeda has its own Reapers. Or things worse than Reapers.

[dreamgazer]

Maybe there will be a lot of shard collecting. That sounds worse than Reapers.

Shard collecting would be a step forward from collecting insignias/dogtags and endless planet scanning.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

When people came across the Atlantic to settle the new world Britain and Europe didn't become erased or deleted or pointless. It's history and its culture still existed. I feel the same for sailing the great sea of space to settle this new Galaxy. I would still know the Milky Way exists and remember the events that unfolded there.

It would if Europe was never heard from again. 

[The Arbiter]

I'm all for it.
I know about mankinds rise to a space faring civilization. I know the history of the Milky Way going back millions of years. How the reapers have ruled the Galaxy. I know about epic battles between alien races through out the history of our cycle. The history was all there and I love it all. I know Shepards rise and fall(destroy in my universe and i choose to believe he made it outta that rubble)(sorry edi I loved you). I know the Milky Way and I had the greatest adventure conquering the The galaxy's greatest threat. And I've imagined and speculated what the future holds for my version of the Galaxy.
Closure.

When people came across the Atlantic to settle the new world Britain and Europe didn't become erased or deleted or pointless. It's history and its culture still existed. I feel the same for sailing the great sea of space to settle this new Galaxy. I would still know the Milky Way exists and remember the events that unfolded there.

Imagine the possibilities of new alien races, civilizations, and new lore. The brand new lore of an alien Galaxy that we get to discover.
Into the great unknown.

If the leak is true,
Let's do this Bioware!

"When people came across the Atlantic to settle the new world Britain and Europe didn't become erased or deleted or pointless. It's history and its culture still existed."

 

Except we have no idea what the Culture of the Milkyway is after the endings because the changes in ME3 endings is so drastic it could dictate or twist the "cultures" of the Milkyway in unkown levels unlike Britain or Europe because folks during that time did not encounter mind control, or god like space-ship creatures that would dictate their way of life.

[Nitrocuban]

the energy from the Citadel only went to active relays around the galaxy

Well, we do not know that for sure and it does not matter cause the RGB splosions clearly reach every corner of the milkyway anyway. Just rewatch the cutscene on YT.

This fact is the very reason why the whole milkyway is changed after ME3 and can't be the starting point for a ME4 without canonizing or trivializing ME3's choices and endings.

[Lady Sassenach]

BW would have to come up with basically 3 different games in they chose to stay in the milky way. And that's only with the 3 main endings - what if the geth/quarians died in a playthrough? That's another rewrite for the missing species, etc. There's a lot of other player choices that would have to be accommodated.

 

I feel like it would be ALOT of work - maybe just too much to ask for. That's why I'm OK with the new galaxy.

[The Arbiter]

BW would have to come up with basically 3 different games in they chose to stay in the milky way. And that's only with the 3 main endings - what if the geth/quarians died in a playthrough? That's another rewrite for the missing species, etc. There's a lot of other player choices that would have to be accommodated.

 

I feel like it would be ALOT of work - maybe just too much to ask for. That's why I'm OK with the new galaxy.

orrrr.... they could either

 

1. Restart the whole franchise instead of just moving away from the Milkyway rendering the Milkyway forever usless while calling the next game a sequel

 

 

 

 

or 2. Do what Deus Ex did... Canonize an original Ending which rendered all other ending choices useless because it wasn't included in the real ending choices which transformed it to a Canon beginning... that's the brilliance about Deus Ex which heavily influenced Mass Effect

 

[rapscallioness]

IF going to Andromeda is true, then.......

 

[CronoDragoon]

or 2. Do what Deus Ex did... Canonize an original Ending which rendered all other ending choices useless because it wasn't included in the real ending choices which transformed it to a Canon beginning... that's the brilliance about Deus Ex which heavily influenced Mass Effect

If people actually cared about the Deus Ex universe like they did the ME universe, this announcement would have caused an uproar. One ending, Malik is dead no matter what....it's basically a worst-case scenario if you care about choice in games.

[The Arbiter]

If people actually cared about the Deus Ex universe like they did the ME universe, this announcement would have caused an uproar. One ending, Malik is dead no matter what....it's basically a worst-case scenario if you care about choice in games.

so you are saying nobody cares about the Deus Ex universe and more people cares about the Mass Effect universe? ok... hmmm so maybe I read wrong when the majority of Deus Ex fans supports this decision because basically they called the endings in HR garbage

[AresKeith]

No, Bioware let's not "do this" and leave behind the rich universe you've built up over almost a decade.

 

Milky Way ftw

 

Milky Way is overrated
 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If people actually cared about the Deus Ex universe like they did the ME universe, this announcement would have caused an uproar. One ending, Malik is dead no matter what....it's basically a worst-case scenario if you care about choice in games.

I'm still furious about what Edios did. 

 

Also for the underlined. 

[AresKeith]

Unless, of course, Andromeda has its own Reapers. Or things worse than Reapers.

 

I would rather have the Yuuzhan Vong than the Reapers 

[AresKeith]

If people actually cared about the Deus Ex universe like they did the ME universe, this announcement would have caused an uproar. One ending, Malik is dead no matter what....it's basically a worst-case scenario if you care about choice in games.

 

Still salty about that