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[Jaron Oberyn]

That the next ME might be bad after the leak? Lets go back to ME3's leaks, and the original ending that got spoiled. Because some wise guy decided to spread that information, we got the current zero closure, yo dawg I heard you didn't wanna be wiped out by synthetics ending. If the leaks are legitimate, anyone fear this might happen again?

[dreamgazer]

Nope, everyone's sunshine, rainbows and unicorn farts over here.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The next game if the leak is true doesn't even read as a Mass Effect game, so yes I don't have high hopes for this "Mass Effect" game.

[PCThug]

Hasn't the idea that the endings changed significantly after the ME3 leak been debunked?

[LordSwagley]

Depends how you feel about... getting tired of saying it but "The Andromeda/Iluminatti/EA" leak or hoax. I personally am not too apalled, I am actually rather interested in some of it, but the colonies, war table, and Remnants could all be big red flags if they fail to execute them right. Atleast the only major thing was the so called "revelation" of the new Galaxy, which by itself is not too much of a surprise. It is ether Ark or prequel (or a masterful done sequel? Unlikely but not impossible) and since a great many people are opposed to a prequel... at the very least I'm certain bioware is watching us closely to gauge our reaction whether the leak was authentic or not, so voice your opinion, who knows it might help them know WHAT NOT TO DO and how to create a compromise between the divided fanbases desires.

[StealthGamer92]

The next game if the leak is true doesn't even read as a Mass Effect game, so yes I don't have high hopes for this "Mass Effect" game.

This, though I think I could accept it in time as a "space game" but not ME.

[wolfhowwl]

That the next ME might be bad after the leak? Lets go back to ME3's leaks, and the original ending that got spoiled. Because some wise guy decided to spread that information, we got the current zero closure, yo dawg I heard you didn't wanna be wiped out by synthetics ending. If the leaks are legitimate, anyone fear this might happen again?

 

Do we have any reason to believe that changes were made because of a script leak only a few months before release?

[Drone223]

I don't mind exploring another galaxy but seeing as the leak indicates that the MW will be abandoned forever I'm it turns out to be a hoax since its but on too many contrivances and it'll just be nothing but wasted potential for the franchise.

[AlanC9]

Do we have any reason to believe that changes were made because of a script leak only a few months before release?

Yeah, that's my question too. From what I've seen of the leak nothing much changed from the original plan.

[Malanek]

I didn't really like DAI and never finished it (or games like Skyrim) so I am a bit concerned. It didn't grip me and I felt it was more like a chore rather than a game. The long periods of downtime between story elements really made me lose focus and in turn forget what was even happening in the story. But I do feel a large part of that was because I didn't like the combat system, whereas I thought ME3 (multiplayer at least) combat was amazing. So I am hopeful I will still enjoy it even if I would prefer a much tighter game packed with story and combat like ME2 and ME3.

 

 

Edit : I'm speaking about the game that was described in the leak. I'm not concerned at all about the fact basic game concepts were leaked will somehow  end up making it a worse game. That's crazy.

[ElitePinecone]

That the next ME might be bad after the leak? Lets go back to ME3's leaks, and the original ending that got spoiled. Because some wise guy decided to spread that information, we got the current zero closure, yo dawg I heard you didn't wanna be wiped out by synthetics ending. If the leaks are legitimate, anyone fear this might happen again?

 

This is not accurate. The ending that got leaked was the same ending as ended up in the game. There was never another one and they didn't change it between when it got leaked and the launch of the game. 

 

I don't know why people keep saying stuff like this, but it's based on bad information. 

[ElitePinecone]

Do we have any reason to believe that changes were made because of a script leak only a few months before release?

 

Geoff Keighley's Final Hours of ME3 says the changes were done because they ran out of time, I believe. And if we look at the leaked .tlk files, they actually contain multiple versions of the script all jumbled up. I think it might even contain the game's full script as it was on launch day, which means nothing changed between the leak and launch.

 

I've never heard it said that they changed *anything* because of the leak, and I don't know how that rumour got started. It's spread around a lot though, unfortunately. 

[Sanunes]

Geoff Keighley's Final Hours of ME3 says the changes were done because they ran out of time, I believe. And if we look at the leaked .tlk files, they actually contain multiple versions of the script all jumbled up. I think it might even contain the game's full script as it was on launch day, which means nothing changed between the leak and launch.

 

I've never heard it said that they changed *anything* because of the leak, and I don't know how that rumour got started. It's spread around a lot though, unfortunately. 

 

Its a lot like anything said about video game development, the ending wasn't the same as that script and that script was leaked so therefore the script changed because of the leak.

 

Back to the original topic, why should I let any leak sway my opinion when I don't let any pre-release hype sway my opinion? I don't put much faith in a game until I actually play it anymore for I find publishers, developers, reporters, and even fans blow everything out of proportion or cherry pick what to focus on. If I buy the game I will let how the game describe those circumstances before rendering any judgment, for if I start feeling good or bad about anything about the game at this point its going to influence who I feel about the game when I finally get my hands on it.

[shepskisaac]

MEe leak happened in late November. Game was going gold in just 2 months. There was no time to change the ending based on any feedback even if they wanted to change it.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

If the leaks are true, then it sounds pretty boring. Like, not bad from a technical standpoint, just...boring.

 

 

 

Boring is worse than bad. Bad gets people riled up and they want to see what the fuss is all about. Boring just makes people try something else.

[Torgette]

Its a lot like anything said about video game development, the ending wasn't the same as that script and that script was leaked so therefore the script changed because of the leak.

Back to the original topic, why should I let any leak sway my opinion when I don't let any pre-release hype sway my opinion? I don't put much faith in a game until I actually play it anymore for I find publishers, developers, reporters, and even fans blow everything out of proportion or cherry pick what to focus on. If I buy the game I will let how the game describe those circumstances before rendering any judgment, for if I start feeling good or bad about anything about the game at this point its going to influence who I feel about the game when I finally get my hands on it.

I'm just going to judge the game when I finish it! Pretty easy stuff really, I can voice my hopes, feelings and concerns but at the end of the day expectations don't make a good game bad or a bad game good. Better to just let the game speak for itself, let the developers be creative, and just enjoy what it is (or not but for what it is) imo.

[JeffZero]

Setting looks great.

Game has a serious chance of emphasizing the wrong elements though.

[Cheviot]

Game has a serious chance of emphasizing the wrong elements though.

What do you mean?

[AlanC9]

Its a lot like anything said about video game development, the ending wasn't the same as that script and that script was leaked so therefore the script changed because of the leak.

Wait, what? The leaked ending I read is just about exactly what was in the released game. Is there some other leak with a different ending?

[fyz306903]

That the next ME might be bad after the leak? Lets go back to ME3's leaks, and the original ending that got spoiled. Because some wise guy decided to spread that information, we got the current zero closure, yo dawg I heard you didn't wanna be wiped out by synthetics ending. If the leaks are legitimate, anyone fear this might happen again?

Was that idea that the ending leak for ME3 caused the bad ending even true? It sound dumb to me. I always thought that ME3's ending was always going to be similar to what we got (after the original writer left) but it was just extremely rushed. 

If ME4 is like the leak, then it looks really fun. The idea that bioware would massively overhaul the game at the last minute (well, year) sound pretty ridiculous to me. 

[JeffZero]

What do you mean?

 

A marketing survey is just that, but several features listed in it read like Dragon Age: Inquisition systems, and the "100s of worlds" thing means chances are many resources will be spent building them and populating them with filler content. That's all very, very similar to Inquisition, which in my opinion emphasized its open world and new mechanics at the expense of not having enough unique story-driven content and meaningful side elements.

 

A willful decision to market an absurd number of places to land and tout exploration above all is in line with how Inquisition was handled, too, and in the end it was rather fitting: that game's as laser-focused on its expansive, critical-path-irrelevant regions as it seemed.

 

It could be that ME4 will strike a much healthier balance between plot and fetch questing, but I'm cautious.

[Revan Reborn]

That the next ME might be bad after the leak? Lets go back to ME3's leaks, and the original ending that got spoiled. Because some wise guy decided to spread that information, we got the current zero closure, yo dawg I heard you didn't wanna be wiped out by synthetics ending. If the leaks are legitimate, anyone fear this might happen again?

Threads like this will just start another Ark theory debate... Honestly, if the leak were true, the game doesn't resemble Mass Effect and I believe that could turn off fans in the same way DAII was a drastic departure from DAO. It sounds more like a strange hybrid between Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica.

 

As far as the ending of ME3 is concerned, you weren't going to get closure regardless of the leak. The game was rushed and the product we received was a clear indication of that.

 

Either way, change is coming, for better or for worse.

[Sanunes]

Wait, what? The leaked ending I read is just about exactly what was in the released game. Is there some other leak with a different ending?

 

After going back and checking, I got my information mixed up.  It wasn't a leaked ending, but one of the possible endings they had during the time Drew Karpyshyn was still working on Mass Effect and he talked about it after the games launch.

 

I hid it behind spoilers in case there are people that don't want to know.

 

Spoiler

You might already have heard about the Dark Matter ending, but if you haven't basically Shepard finds out that The Reapers are wiping out civilizations to solve the Dark Matter problem that eventually was going to destroy everything.  Shepard is given the choice of telling The Reapers that they can harvest Humanity to solve for the Reapers feel we are the key to solving the problem or refusing to sacrifice humanity and solve the problem ourselves.