What could be worse than the Reapers?
#51
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:31
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#52
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:34
I've had enough Protheans to deal with already, thank you.
At least it would factor into the lore!
And if this cycle can somehow magically get to Andromeda, the Protheans sure as hell should've and would've done so.
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#53
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:37
Yet another generalization...
The Reapers' motivations consisted of vague platitudes. Their aim was to save organic life by destroying it before synthetic life could destroy it. Makes literally no sense. Why wouldn't they just wipe out synthetic life? Or take a few people of each species each cycle and preserve their genetic material? Turning them all into goo is pants-on-head stupid.
#54
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:46
What can be worse than reapers?
Reapers + broccoli = worse.
#55
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:56
The Reapers' motivations consisted of vague platitudes. Their aim was to save organic life by destroying it before synthetic life could destroy it. Makes literally no sense. Why wouldn't they just wipe out synthetic life? Or take a few people of each species each cycle and preserve their genetic material? Turning them all into goo is pants-on-head stupid.
Killing evolved organics means they only have to come back one every 50k years. Killing off the synthetics created by organics would mean they'd have to come back after centuries.
#56
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:59
Killing evolved organics means they only have to come back one every 50k years. Killing off the synthetics created by organics would mean they'd have to come back after centuries.
But why do they need extended vacations? A long cycle of reaping really drains them emotionally? It makes no sense. You know what would stop organics from making AI synthetics in the first place? REAPERS. All they would have to do is stick around and tell people not to do it.
#57
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 04:59
At least it would factor into the lore!
And if this cycle can somehow magically get to Andromeda, the Protheans sure as hell should've and would've done so.
Not really. If they could go to another galaxy, why leave the people chosen to lead the new empire on Eden Prime?
#58
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:03
But why do they need extended vacations? A long cycle of reaping really drains them emotionally? It makes no sense.
I think(THIS IS A THEORY) that the Reapers don't nap but during the 50,000 years they tend to other cycles in other galaxies.
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#59
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:03
But why do they need extended vacations? A long cycle of reaping really drains them emotionally? It makes no sense. You know what would stop organics from making AI synthetics in the first place? REAPERS. All they would have to do is stick around and tell people not to do it.
Yeah because you always did what your parents said, right?
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#60
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:06
I think(THIS IS A THEORY) that the Reapers don't nap but during the 50,000 years they tend to other cycles in other galaxies.
A theory requires evidence though. This is actually just an idea you had. If there were evidence that this might be the case it would be a valid theory. Otherwise not. The games tell us that the Reapers just go into sleep mode in dark space between cycles so that is what we must conclude until there's evidence to the contrary.
#61
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:07
Yeah because you always did what your parents said, right?
My parents weren't giant robotic Eldritch horrors that would wipe out my entire race if I didn't stop jumping on the couch.
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#62
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:13
A theory requires evidence though. This is actually just an idea you had. If there were evidence that this might be the case it would be a valid theory. Otherwise not. The games tell us that the Reapers just go into sleep mode in dark space between cycles so that is what we must conclude until there's evidence to the contrary.
The only thing that tells us they go to sleep is Vigil, and he admits to just be hypothesizing.
The Reapers have a mandate to preserve all life, and have the capability of intergalactic travel, at least to those in the local galaxy group. Thus it is only logical they go to those other galaxies to preserve the life in them.
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#63
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:19
The only thing that tells us they go to sleep is Vigil, and he admits to just be hypothesizing.
Yes, but that is the game itself giving us information. You're just posting random ideas that popped into your head.
The Reapers have a mandate to preserve all life, and have the capability of intergalactic travel, at least to those in the local galaxy group. Thus it is only logical they go to those other galaxies to preserve the life in them.
Saying they're capable of intergalactic travel suggests that they're able to travel from galaxy to galaxy. That's not supported by anything. Going into dark space outside of the Milky Way is not intergalactic travel as you're suggesting. The Reapers are capable of interstellar travel, but anything beyond that is baseless speculation.
#64
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:22
Yes, but that is the game itself giving us information. You're just posting random ideas that popped into your head.
That is the game giving us a guess. The games also give us wrong information. I know it is just my idea, hence it being a theory.
Saying they're capable of intergalactic travel suggests that they're able to travel from galaxy to galaxy. That's not supported by anything. Going into dark space outside of the Milky Way is not intergalactic travel as you're suggesting. The Reapers are capable of interstellar travel, but anything beyond that is baseless speculation.
Yes it is. The game tells us that the Reapers suffer none of the down sides we do when it comes to FTL travel, like having to discharge the core. Thus they are capable of making the trip, as supported by ingame evidence which earlier in this post I'm replying to you put on a pedestal.
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#65
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:24
Saying they're capable of intergalactic travel suggests that they're able to travel from galaxy to galaxy.
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That's the exact definition of the word, ofc he suggested that.
That's not supported by anything. Going into dark space outside of the Milky Way is not intergalactic travel as you're suggesting. The Reapers are capable of interstellar travel, but anything beyond that is baseless speculation.
It is:
Reapers usually destroy fuel infrastructure rather than attempting to capture it intact, indicating that Reapers do not require organic species' energy supplies. Consequently, the Reapers attack without regard for maintaining supply lines behind them, except to move husks from one planet to another. Unlike Citadel ships, Reapers do not appear to discharge static buildup from their drive cores
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#66
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:43
That is the game giving us a guess. The games also give us wrong information.
Information the game gives us is solid until there is new information that is counter to it. There is no other information to counter it. We have to take it at face value.
I know it is just my idea, hence it being a theory.
But it's not a theory. Theories require evidence. You have none.
Yes it is. The game tells us that the Reapers suffer none of the down sides we do when it comes to FTL travel, like having to discharge the core. Thus they are capable of making the trip, as supported by ingame evidence which earlier in this post I'm replying to you put on a pedestal.
Being able to travel really far without needing to recharge does not make them capable of intergalactic travel. Hundred of millions of lightyears without relays is a millions-years long trip for Reapers and the space between galaxies is not actually empty. It is very likely dotted with invisible black holes and other cosmic occurrences that would deter travel.
#67
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:49
Not really. If they could go to another galaxy, why leave the people chosen to lead the new empire on Eden Prime?
New Milky Way empire. Andromeda's its own beast.
#68
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:49
Being able to travel really far without needing to recharge does not make them capable of intergalactic travel. Hundred of millions of lightyears without relays is a millions-years long trip for Reapers and the space between galaxies is not actually empty. It is very likely dotted with invisible black holes and other cosmic occurrences that would deter travel.
Check your facts before you post wrong things. Reaper FTL is 10958 times as fast as the speed of light. Andromeda is 2.5m lightyears aways from Earth. Which means Reapers could get there in 220 years starting from Darkspace.
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#69
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 05:55
Check your facts before you post wrong things. Reaper FTL is 10958 times as fast as the speed of light. Andromeda is 2.5m lightyears aways from Earth. Which means Reapers could get there in 220 years starting from Darkspace.
Ah, you are correct. Much faster than I suspected. And apparently only twice as fast as our own ships at the time of the trilogy, making intergalactic travel feasible for humans as well.
EDIT- and thinking about it, that really undercuts the importance of the relays. Getting to solar systems not connected to the relay network wouldn't take very long at all, making the Reapers' plan even more idiotic.
#70
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 06:18
EDIT- and thinking about it, that really undercuts the importance of the relays. Getting to solar systems not connected to the relay network wouldn't take very long at all, making the Reapers' plan even more idiotic.
It would be very inconvenient. It could take 15 years to get to the Citadel from the Perseus Veil for example.
#71
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 06:29
It would be very inconvenient. It could take 15 years to get to the Citadel from the Perseus Veil for example.
Those are on opposite sides of the galaxy just about. Why would you make that trip without relays instead of just shooting to the closest relay? If you use the nearest relays to get to unexplored areas then the trips would be very short.
#72
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 06:34
Those are on opposite sides of the galaxy just about. Why would you make that trip without relays instead of just shooting to the closest relay? If you use the nearest relays to get to unexplored areas then the trips would be very short.
I meant without Relays. As for going to solar systems not connected to the relay network via FTL we did that all the time in all 3 games.
#73
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 06:39
I meant without Relays. As for going to solar systems not connected to the relay network via FTL we did that all the time in all 3 games.
The ability to travel to and colonize the entire galaxy undercuts the Reapers plan of designing how intelligent races spread throughout the galaxy. We can just go anywhere we want, meaning the Reapers would have to scour every inch of the galaxy every 50,000 years. It's entirely moronic.
#74
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 06:45
The ability to travel to and colonize the entire galaxy undercuts the Reapers plan of designing how intelligent races spread throughout the galaxy. We can just go anywhere we want, meaning the Reapers would have to scour every inch of the galaxy every 50,000 years. It's entirely moronic.
It was exactly why they did it. To speed up the cycles.
#75
Posté 23 avril 2015 - 06:51
It was exactly why they did it. To speed up the cycles.
What? Speed up the cycles to get to kill everything faster? And at the same time make it infinitely harder to accomplish their goal each cycle? If the advanced races were relegated to their solar systems it would be so much easier to reap them.





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