Why? I'd hate to live in a society, where people can't correct factually wrong information (unfortunately, we kinda already do) Because you corrected me, I now have right information .
Happy to help, theres jsut some very easily and irrationally offended people around
Additionally, while the Maker may or may not exist, people of Thedas worship other entities such as Fade Spirits and High Dragons as well. The ancient Elves worshiped the most powerful Elves as gods.
In our history many Kings were worshipped as Gods from Pharaohs to Emperors of Qin Dynasty, up until 1945, Emperor Hirohito was considered a God or at least a descendant of God. It all boils down to what defines divinity. If it is immense power, than almost any Mage with enough training and Will AND Intelligence, could over time practice such forms of magic that'd seem Divine to a Fereldan peasant. If it is Omnipotence and creator of the world you are looking for, then Thedas hasn't offered any viable candidate.
Happy to help, theres jsut some very easily and irrationally offended people around
One can but try, if someone wants to feel precious and right all the time, there is little you can do any ways, They'll hopefully learn in time.
Wrong definition of Agnosticism, it simply means 'Lack of knowledge'. Without the term Theist or Atheist, if someone were to announce themselves to be an 'Agnostic', they'd simply be declaring themselves clueless about any and everything.
Agnosticism and Atheism are both -ism's (a belief system).
The definition of an Ism: A distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory.
No, because by the end of the day, nobody stops calling us the Herald of Andraste.
Agnosticism and atheism are both -ism's (a belief system).
The definition of an Ism: A distinctive doctrine, cause or theory.
The suffix "ism" can also mean 'state, condition, attribute, or quality' Like 'Pauperism' or 'Heroism' . Is the state being poor a distinctive doctrine, cause or theory?
The suffix "ism" can also mean 'state, condition, attribute, or quality' Like 'Pauperism' or 'Heroism' . Is the state being poor a distinctive doctrine, cause or theory?
I didn't say it was the only definition of ism. In regards to Agnosticism and Atheism thats the definition because both of the are belief systems.
I didn't say it was the only definition of ism. In regards to Agnosticism and Atheism thats the definition because both of the are belief systems.
But you didn't offer any proof to substantiate that claim.
For example if I were to say Theism, and offer a definition for it from Meriam-Webster, which is what you did. would you accept it?
Well here it goes :
Theism is 'ism' (a belief system)
Ism - an oppressive and especially discriminatory attitude or belief
Idk see why not. Solas seems to be.
Solas Greatly Disapproves.
Read the first paragraph of both ism's on wikipedia it will explain them for you.
I don't got time to take you to school. Google is your friend. Educate yourself. Good luck!
Atheism - Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
I have had this "discussion" a dozen times on Youtube, same **** over and over again, Besides, I think we continue on this path of line this thread could and probably should get locked up.
I concede my point. You win.
Atheism - Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
I have had this "discussion" a dozen times on Youtube, same **** over and over again, Besides, I think we continue on this path of line this thread could and probably should get locked up.
I concede my point. You win.
Yay! 
good day sir.
Not saying you're wrong but by that concept you could technically deny the divinity of any godlike entity. Just because such an entity 'seems' to have all the characteristics that we would normally attribute to a 'God' doesn't mean it actually does, we might just lack the perception or insight to see the flaws in such a divinity.
I'm an agnostic atheist, which means I'll believe in a deity when sufficient evidence is presented. This also applies to the characters I create. I've heard people tell me " Well, spirits and demons exist, so the Maker must too." This doesn't really say anything about the Maker's existence, and it reminds me of the design argument. Would it be logical to disbelieve Maker claims?
Believing in something after being provided evidence to it's existence isn't believing in something.
With that said, just because Dread Solas and Flemythal exists in Thedas doesn't mean they must literally be gods.
eg. In STDS9 the aliens in the Bajoran Wormhole were seen as gods by the Bajorans. In many ways the aliens embodied traditional characteristcs of gods. They also were involved in Bajoran history in that way. However they were just aliens. In the franchises of superheroes characters like Thor embody religious lore, Superman walks the earth like a Hercules, the Watcher embodies aspects of an angel... but they aren't literally gods, nor does their not-godhood status mean that a god-being can't exist in that universe. Same with Thedas. Dragon Age is written in a manner that allows for interpretation. As such being an atheist, or holding any belief system, in Thedas should be just as valid as in our world.
'Damned to hell' (for eternity, I might add) is not a good enough reason for you to worship someone. Well, allow me to say, you have a braver heart than I, my friend.
But you didn't offer any proof to substantiate that claim.
For example if I were to say Theism, and offer a definition for it from Meriam-Webster, which is what you did. would you accept it?
Well here it goes :
is 'ism' (a belief system)
Ism - an oppressive and especially discriminatory attitude or belief
Wouldn't it be more proper to post all the definitions for Ism given there are six definitions that I know of though debating about isms and such is likely getting off the topic of wither playing a atheist is possible?
Back to topic I don't really think playing a atheist is impossible if you reject the notion that any of the deities are in fact deities and not just powerful spirits given that atheism is the belief that a god or gods do not exist and thus does not deal with spirits which clearly do exist.
There is no atheism in Thedas and I am a hardcore atheist in real life.
Atheism is not merely a lack of belief in deities but it is also a commitment to an objective reality. This means that in the real world, you not only have to not believe in any deities but you have to provide evidence for why.
Examples include demonstrating capability to logically denounce gods' non-existence, understanding evolution by natural selection, historical proof that religion and gods are man-made and is a failed science of sorts as well as other scientific theories such as Big Bang and Heliocentrism.
You can't just say "I don't believe in Zeus or Indra or Thor or Amun-Ra or Helios or Aphrodite or Kamadeva ", you have to give a reason why such as "Well scientifically, this is how lightning works, this is how the sun rises, this is a biological explanation for having sexual attraction and so on". You have to be able to explain why things like karma and reincarnation is ridiculous nonsense and how entities such as a large tree or a rock or a mountain have no divine powers.
The thing is in Thedas you cannot do this. Science in Thedas has not or probably will not progress to the levels needed to offer a scientific explanation of reality as opposed to a theological and/or metaphysical explanation of reality.
Additionally, while the Maker may or may not exist, people of Thedas worship other entities such as Fade Spirits and High Dragons as well. The ancient Elves worshiped the most powerful Elves as gods.
Having said that, one can certainly take a viewpoint of being indifferent towards deities. That is the viewpoint most of my characters in fantasy games take and have :- "I don't give a single f**k about you being a deity or not. You leave me alone and I leave you alone. If you meddle with me, I mess you and/or your followers as well as your shrine up."
Back to topic I don't really think playing a atheist is impossible if you reject the notion that any of the deities are in fact deities and not just powerful spirits given that atheism is the belief that a god or gods do not exist and thus does not deal with spirits which clearly do exist.
I agree its not simply saying the god you believe in does not exist. Its more like saying the god you believe in is not really a god.
And I'm sure Weekes agrees with him. Nothing good can come of revealing whether or not the Maker exists, because no matter which is the case, people are going to take it as a wider statement about the real world.
They shouldn't be afraid of that. It's people's own fault for taking it as a statement about reality, not the devs'. In fictional universes that do contain confirmed deities, people don't seem to take that as any statement. Is it only because the Maker is the omnipotent, world-creating type of god that happens to somewhat resemble some currently-popular religions' gods? If polytheistic religions were still the dominant religions, would people take the fictional universes with deities as a statement about reality? Anyway, they should reveal the Maker one way or another just to mess with people. Okay, not just to mess with people 
I think it could be a cool story, depending on which way they choose to go with.
Believing in something after being provided evidence to it's existence isn't believing in something.
With that said, just because Dread Solas and Flemythal exists in Thedas doesn't mean they must literally be gods.
eg. In STDS9 the aliens in the Bajoran Wormhole were seen as gods by the Bajorans. In many ways the aliens embodied traditional characteristcs of gods. They also were involved in Bajoran history in that way. However they were just aliens. In the franchises of superheroes characters like Thor embody religious lore, Superman walks the earth like a Hercules, the Watcher embodies aspects of an angel... but they aren't literally gods, nor does their not-godhood status mean that a god-being can't exist in that universe. Same with Thedas. Dragon Age is written in a manner that allows for interpretation. As such being an atheist, or holding any belief system, in Thedas should be just as valid as in our world.
I lve this example. Star Trek has a ton of examples like this
I could see my Quizzy in DA4, stepping foot into the blackened Golden City, being faced with The Maker and asking...
https://youtu.be/QkT1-N0VqUc?t=15s
If someone holds a gun to my head and tells me to worship them or my brains will decorate the walls I might start doing all the things that look like worship but that doesn't mean I actually worsho that person in the spiritual sense. If we substitute gun with "omnipotent power over all existence" we get to the same place.
That makes sense, but not if the god is omniscient. If they know you're not truly worshipping them, you're screwed either way.
The study of magic is absolutely and purely scientific in Thedas. The fact that their rules of nature are different doesn't mean they're not scientific.
Thank you for bringing this up. Fade-spirits and magic are natural in Thedas, not supernatural.
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