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A change of scenery is exactly what the ME series needs. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Cannot disagree with you more. Besides, 99% of the Milky Way is unexplored in the MEU so can serve as a change of scenery.

[Mcfly616]

Yet, the leaving part is merely speculation. Nothing more.

[KaiserShep]

Who'da thunk that you'd have to leave the Milky Way for a change of scenery.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yet, the leaving part is merely speculation. Nothing more.

Well, depends if you believe the leak or not. 

[Mcfly616]

Well, depends if you believe the leak or not. 

 I don't even consider it a leak. So, no.

[Messi Kossmann]

Better than a prequel or "same-sheperd-period" bullshit.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Cannot disagree with you more. Besides, 99% of the Milky Way is unexplored in the MEU so can serve as a change of scenery.

This is a good point. I do recall reading somewhere in the Codex that less than 1% of the Milky Way has been explored.

[Steppenwolf]

Yet, the leaving part is merely speculation. Nothing more.

No it isn't. The potential leak became a likely leak when multiple industry insiders vouched for it's legitimacy and a dev posted an image of a wormhole with the message "What lies ahead? Adventures? Dangerous Foes?"

Who'da thunk that you'd have to leave the Milky Way for a change of scenery.

A lot of people anticipated this after ME3.

This is a good point. I do recall reading somewhere in the Codex that less than 1% of the Milky Way has been explored.

But the Crucible effected the entire galaxy and numerous races can be wiped out. There's no way to move the series forward in the Milky Way without making one of the endings and a whole bunch of other choices canon.

[Mcfly616]

No it isn't. The potential leak became a likely leak when multiple industry insiders vouched for it's legitimacy and a dev posted an image of a wormhole with the message "What lies ahead? Adventures? Dangerous Foes?"

"multiple industry insiders" hardly lends any credibility. Who are they? Who vouches for them? And your interpretation of the devs post is nothing more than your own straw man speculation of what he's even implying.

 

 

Face it, it is nothing more than some forum users lengthy fan fic twisted in a way to get the fanbase riled up. It's not the first time. It won't be the last.

[StealthGamer92]

But the Crucible effected the entire galaxy and numerous races can be wiped out. There's no way to move the series forward in the Milky Way without making one of the endings and a whole bunch of other choices canon.

Speculation, unimaginative speculation. I can also say that biotics should be thrown out because even with the lore description it make no sense in reality, no mor true than saying a solution is impossible..

[Steppenwolf]

"multiple industry insiders" hardly lends any credibility. Who are they? Who vouches for them? And your interpretation of the devs post is nothing more than your own straw man speculation of what he's even implying.

Who vouches for the industry insiders who have publicly said the leak is legit? The Mass Effect dev's tweet of a wormhole with a hint at the future of the series is somehow my strawman? Are you high?

Face it, it is nothing more than some forum users lengthy fan fic twisted in a way to get the fanbase riled up. It's not the first time. It won't be the last.

Just like the Inquisition survey leak was made up? Oh wait.
You clearly decided it's fake and you'll just ignore all evidence and logic to the contrary.

Speculation, unimaginative speculation. I can also say that biotics should be thrown out because even with the lore description it make no sense in reality, no mor true than saying a solution is impossible..

What's speculation? The Crucible effecting the entire Milky Way galaxy? That's not speculation at all. You can see it happen in the game as the relays spread the energy from the crucible and effecting the entire galaxy is the entire point.

[themikefest]

Change of scenery?

 

I like to see the inside of the new ship I will be commanding, if I'm commanding one at all. 

 

I like to stay in the Milky Way, but won't lose any sleep if the game takes place in another galaxy

[StealthGamer92]

What's speculation? The Crucible effecting the entire Milky Way galaxy? That's not speculation at all. You can see it happen in the game as the relays spread the energy from the crucible and effecting the entire galaxy is the entire point.

No. You saying writing and implementing a satisfactory post Shepard Milky Way is impossible is.

[Steppenwolf]

No. You saying writing and implementing a satisfactory post Shepard Milky Way is impossible is.

Have at it then. Account for every major variance without substantially changing the plot and assets of the sequel to accommodate them. Once you think on it for a while, come back and tell me if going to another galaxy isn't a cleaner, smarter solution.

[wolfhowwl]

No. You saying writing and implementing a satisfactory post Shepard Milky Way is impossible is.

 

It would be very easy to do that. You just have to be willing to create a canon world state as base, which BioWare apparently isn't willing to do.

[StealthGamer92]

Have at it then. Account for every major variance without substantially changing the plot and assets of the sequel to accommodate them. Once you think on it for a while, come back and tell me if going to another galaxy isn't a cleaner, smarter solution.

I'm not a profesional plot writer but I would go with "time passed" and use the Stargazers own words as a way to say yes there were changes and in convo's they'll be referenced, but Synthethis's green glow was a story telling device the grandpa used because he was telling the story to a child, and in both scenarios where Reapers aren't killed, after the rebuilding was done or well under way the Reapers leave to ease tension they'd obviously cause if they stayed.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm not a profesional plot writer but I would go with "time passed" and use the Stargazers own words as a way to say yes there were changes and in convo's they'll be referenced, but Synthethis's green glow was a story telling device the grandpa used because he was telling the story to a child, and in both scenarios where Reapers aren't killed, after the rebuilding was done or well under way the Reapers leave to ease tension they'd obviously cause if they stayed.

I think the Reapers would leave not so much because of the tension they cause but more the fact they indoctrinate others merely by existing. 

[LordSwagley]

Milky Way Bar loyalists VS the err.. non Milky Way loyalists? Or Ark ship supporters? Yeah that works! Anywho why can we not have a constructive chat? Is pouncing on eachothers ideas really getting us any closer to the truth about MENexts setting? Just my opinion on the direction the forums have been taking the last few days. I myself am excited at the idea of exploring a new Galaxy as I believe it will restore a sense of mystery while not squashing anyones own ending, ME happy ending mod, or headcannon (I could have wrote a better ending for petes sake) but whats important to me is that we go somewhere new (already confirmed) and that the plot, crew, and Hero are solid. Thus I have no serious objections to ether Galaxy setting just as long as the game is FUN and is'nt that all that really matters?

[Steppenwolf]

I'm not a profesional plot writer but I would go with "time passed" and use the Stargazers own words as a way to say yes there were changes and in convo's they'll be referenced, but Synthethis's green glow was a story telling device the grandpa used because he was telling the story to a child, and in both scenarios where Reapers aren't killed, after the rebuilding was done or well under way the Reapers leave to ease tension they'd obviously cause if they stayed.

So our final choice didn't matter at all and would have no discernible impact on the galaxy whatsoever? Then what would be the point of staying? Besides, the Stargazer was already made wrong when they retconned the ending with the Extended Cut. The implication of the ending was that all of the Reaper tech and Reaper-derived tech, like FTL travel, were destroyed and everyone was stuck in the "stone ages" for a very long time. When they changed it the Stargazer scene became pointless and counter-intuitive.
And what about the Quarians, Geth, Krogan and Rachni?

[Steppenwolf]

I think the Reapers would leave not so much because of the tension they cause but more the fact they indoctrinate others merely by existing.

...what would Synthesized or Shepard-controlled Reapers make people do?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

...what would Synthesized or Shepard-controlled Reapers make people do?

Do? Nothing. 

But indoctrination results in mental degradation, resulting in anyone who is near them long enough to turn into a gibbering animal.  

[Steppenwolf]

Do? Nothing. 
But indoctrination results in mental degradation, resulting in anyone who is near them long enough to turn into a gibbering animal.

That's not indoctrination. Indoctrination is a specific thing. And why wouldn't friendly Reapers just not do that?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That's not indoctrination. Indoctrination is a specific thing. And why wouldn't friendly Reapers just not do that?

Because they don't have control over it. It's simply a part of what they are, like how we generate smells regardless of if we wish to. Remember the Cerberus team that tried to get the IFF? They were all indoctrinated despite the Reaper being for all intents and purposes dead, or at least brain-dead since the only thing functioning was its core to keep it from falling into the brown dwarf. 

[StealthGamer92]

So our final choice didn't matter at all and would have discernible on the galaxy whatsoever? Then what would be the point of staying? Besides, the Stargazer was already made wrong when they retconned the ending with the Extended Cut. The implication of the ending was that all of the Reaper tech and Reaper-derived tech, like FTL travel, were destroyed and everyone was stuck in the "stone ages" for a very long time. When they changed it the Stargazer scene became pointless and counter-intuitive.
And what about the Quarians, Geth, Krogan and Rachni?

So epic trumps continuity then? There is a good idea I just put out, and I'm not even a writer at all. A veteran paid writer could and would be able to do it the way you want. The only real visibly noticeable changes ending to ending is Reapers=dead/alive and green glow. All species are still unique in customs/personalities dead species would more than likely have pockets of survivors so any decisions pertaining to a species like chooseing Geth over Quarins just effect how abundant they'd be(Quarians would be rare in this scenario).