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[MstrJedi Kyle]

Your lack of faith in BioWare's writing because of your own narrow perception of what can be "dealt with via save editor or vague writing" is a disservice to BioWare and nothing more.

 

If you have so much faith in BioWare's writing why don't you trust them to tell this story the way they want to? Assuming the leak is true, I'm not saying it is obviously nothing is set and this is as rumor-y as rumors get, maybe this is the story they want to tell right now. Don't they kinda have the right to tell what stories they want to tell?

[FilthyPlebianN7]

That would have been my choice to be completely honest. I'm not going to lament it too much, but I thought it had immense potential.
 
- Deal with the situation in Sol where most of the fleets would have been practically stranded
- Deal with the fallout of the Crucible (look for ways to repair the relays, perhaps the geth - huge questlines)
- Deal with the Krogan
- Deal with opportunistic up and comers (pirates, groups looking to fill the vacuums of power)
- Deal with Cerberus remnants
- Deal with the political fallout of the revelation of Asari secrets
...
- Help form a new galactic authority (or not)
- Help restore the major powers (or not)
- Decide what to do with the remains of the Reapers
...
 
That's just off the top of my head.

Sounds like you want Mass Effect: Post-War Reconstruction. Yaaawwwn, no thanks.

[Bizantura]

I hope this leak is not true.  Killing Shepard once is quite enough killing him/her and the team a second time around so to ignore the whole story of Shepard even took place is trampling on established lore big time.  Paying writers big bucks to be unimaginative and without creativity is ridiculous.  

 

I think the populous should wake up from the social meme that "the lowest common denominator" is best for all.  Striving for less then mediocracy is what brings  big nations down, we need not copy it.  The sacrifice to uphold the holy grail of "consumerism" will become our undoing.

 

So I say no to a reboot then start a new IP with new lore and races.

[Torgette]

I hope this leak is not true.  Killing Shepard once is quite enough killing him/her and the team a second time around so to ignore the whole story of Shepard even took place is trampling on established lore big time.  Paying writers big bucks to be unimaginative and without creativity is ridiculous.  

 

I think the populous should wake up from the social meme that "the lowest common denominator" is best for all.  Striving for less then mediocracy is what brings  big nations down, we need not copy it.  The sacrifice to uphold the holy grail of "consumerism" will become our undoing.

 

So I say no to a reboot then start a new IP with new lore and races.

 

I think both routes can offer great stories and that's what matters most.

[ZoliCs]

 

Some people see this reboot-ish thing as respecting choices because it theoretically preserves them but I see the complete opposite. Because to me, addressing the choices, even if it's just one of the possible three, even if it's the one I hate is more along the lines of what I would consider respect for choices.

How would it respect choice when they actually take it away?

[wolfhowwl]

Your lack of faith in BioWare's writing because of your own narrow perception of what can be "dealt with via save editor or vague writing" is a disservice to BioWare and nothing more. Do you honestly believe BioWare did not plan ahead and understand how these endings would impact the future of the franchise? I know many just assume BioWare just "wrote themselves into a wall." That, however, is one of the dumbest and most ridiculous statements I have ever heard. The writing team isn't comprised of little children. This isn't the first story each member of the team has written, far from it. The mere fact you do not see a resolution to a perceived "problem" does not mean it doesn't exist.

 

We still don't know how far into the future the next Mass Effect. We don't know where it is taking place, regardless of this "leak." Again, only 1% of the Milky Way had been explored. There is so much we don't know that it's incredibly outrageous and shortsighted to say what BioWare can't do. You are not a member of the writing team. You are not an authority on Mass Effect nor where it will go in the future. Like the rest of us, all you know is what we experienced in the games and nothing more. You can continue believing BioWare "screwed up," if you'd like. However, I believe you may find yourself disappointed, especially if previous choices actually do have an impact on the story going forward through some sort of Mass Effect Keep.

 

It's not just a matter of "faith in BioWare's writing."

 

No one's writing talent is being impugned by looking at the wildly different ending states (entire species wiped out, vaporization ending vs. renegade control, etc.)  and BioWare past handling of save imports and concluding that adequately handling those would simply have a scope that is vastly beyond BioWare's resources. 

 

If anything it is a good thing if the writers decided to let those things be and moved on rather than try to streamline it into a manageable state with insulting retcons, handwaves, and "vague writing."

[Steppenwolf]

Your lack of faith in BioWare's writing because of your own narrow perception of what can be "dealt with via save editor or vague writing" is a disservice to BioWare and nothing more.

Why would I have faith in BioWare's writing? I didn't like the writing in ME3 or ME2 very much and Inquisition and DA2 were lackluster at best.
 

Do you honestly believe BioWare did not plan ahead and understand how these endings would impact the future of the franchise?

I know they didn't plan beyond the ending. They didn't even know how ME3 was going to end until they were already halfway into making the game. The ending was designed by 2 people to require the least amount of work, not a writing team with a vision.
 

I know many just assume BioWare just "wrote themselves into a wall." That, however, is one of the dumbest and most ridiculous statements I have ever heard.

They cannot continue in the Milky Way without ignoring our choices or picking a canon galaxy-state that ignores our choices. Your advocacy for vague writing that ignores out choices shows that you don't have a leg to stand on in a discussion about writing.
 

We still don't know how far into the future the next Mass Effect. We don't know where it is taking place, regardless of this "leak." Again, only 1% of the Milky Way had been explored. There is so much we don't know that it's incredibly outrageous and shortsighted to say what BioWare can't do. You are not a member of the writing team. You are not an authority on Mass Effect nor where it will go in the future. Like the rest of us, all you know is what we experienced in the games and nothing more. You can continue believing BioWare "screwed up," if you'd like. However, I believe you may find yourself disappointed, especially if previous choices actually do have an impact on the story going forward through some sort of Mass Effect Keep.

If you have so much faith in BioWare's writing why are you saying they shouldn't do what they may want to do? You're saying they have to continue in the Milky Way just because. Why don't you have faith in the writer's ability to craft a good story outside of the Milky Way.