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The last time the Qunari went to war they conquered Rivain, much of the Free Marches, and large sections of both Antiva and the Imperium  it took a century, several Exalted Marches, the combined might of Thedas, including both Chantries, all the Circles of Magi and even the Felicisima Armada working together just to fight them to a standstill. 

 

Actually, World of Thedas 2.0 has just revealed that the last time they went to war was in 9:12 Dragon, when they sent an invasion fleet at Tevinter. The Imperium sent them packing without requiring outside assistance.



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If thedas does defeat the qunari in the next war maybe the tech knowledge the qunari have such as gunpowder and other things will spread to the other nations.

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Actually, World of Thedas 2.0 has just revealed that the last time they went to war was in 9:12 Dragon, when they sent an invasion fleet at Tevinter. The Imperium sent them packing without requiring outside assistance.

My copy of WoT Volume 2 hasn't arrived yet.  But hasn't Tevinter and the Qunari been fighting on and off for centuries?  The Vints didn't sign the Llomerryn Accords and have kept on fighting ever since.  Couldn't the Qunari be simply humoring them, keeping them distracted while they plan something bigger?



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Still waiting to find out how "the Stone lives beneath Orlais" and what the crap Sandal is. >____>
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Seems to me Flemeth and/or Solas are trying to gather all the gods together, so they're going to use the wardens to try Morrigans DA:O trick a couple more times.

Oh, and Iron Bull is correct, the Qunari had dragon mixed in their breeding, Old God dragon. So, Flemas will visit that one as well.

 

And Sandal is the Maker ofcourse!



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My copy of WoT Volume 2 hasn't arrived yet.  But hasn't Tevinter and the Qunari been fighting on and off for centuries?  The Vints didn't sign the Llomerryn Accords and have kept on fighting ever since.  Couldn't the Qunari be simply humoring them, keeping them distracted while they plan something bigger?

 

They sent an entire fleet at Qarinus, including a dozen dreadnoughts. The Kathaban (I assume the leader of the Qunari's navy) was so shamed by the loss he immediately resigned from his position. 

 

"Just playin' around" seems to be the go-to Qunari excuse for when they lose. No johns. 



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Throwing in my (disorganized) speculations:

 

First, I feel that the next major event is going to be touched off by whatever disastrous thing Solas has committed to doing, which has been suggested to be collapsing the Veil. This would not only fill the world with spirits and demons, but would make the elven people whole again, giving them back their magic and immortality. This has a lot of implications, particularly for economies that take advantage of them as a weak servant class like Orlais and Tevinter.

 

Solas may also be about to release his old 'friends' upon the world. I have a hard time believing he'd free Andruil, Dirthamen, Falon'Din, and Ghilan'nain, since they're the ones I believe that it's heavily implied betrayed and killed Mythal (though Mythal can't get her reckoning if her enemies aren't there to be reckoned with, yeah, she'll be back, they'll all be back). Which leaves the gods June, Sylaise, Elgar'nan, and the Forgotten Ones Geldauran, Anaris and Daern'thal as the named elves available that are also locked up. They're probably all going to want to kill him, too.

 

If the elves are restored to what they were, suddenly, there are a whole lot of elves hooked up to the Fade directly who aren't particularly happy living in slavery in Tevinter or scraping at the feet of nobles in Orlais. I can only see them rebelling en masse, the chaos during which would be a lovely time for the Qunari to strike. I also have a theory that the vallaslin is something like a geas and if an elf has a particular god's vallaslin that god can call upon them for service or draw power from them. So, that would be an instant, if small army of the Dalish and whatever ancient slaves like Abelas are still sleeping for the elven gods to take advantage of should they be freed. Also, I think Arlathan is going to rise from the ground, either raised by one of the gods or Forgotten Ones. It's going to be full of the nastiest Blightiest elfy stuff.

 

Since Solas loathes the Qun so much, and the gods are probably using slaves to fight their wars, if he's still alive, I can't see him sitting back and watching while his newly empowered, freed people get steamrollered (but he's probably going to die before he gets to cause more trouble). If he survives long enough to do it, he'll either try and beg the Inquisitor to bolster the Tevene army probably via an Exalted March (which would probably happen anyway, I really hope there's something for me to do with that 350 power I've managed to accumulate in one of my save games), or attempt to put together an elven resistance himself.

 

Meanwhile, there's also the matter of the Grey Wardens, who seem to be dealing with some sort of internal issue. Has another magister popped up and tried to destroy/control them? Are they going after an Archdemon before it can be corrupted? Maybe a cure has been found, but they are split on whether or not to use it. Whatever happens, griffons, darkspawn and the Deep Roads are probably going to be involved.

 

This is looking more and more like a very messy four or even five front war in northern Thedas, depending on how the factions(Tevinter, the Qun, the Elves, the Inquisition, the Blighted) fall out, all the while normal people are trying to cope with spirits pouring out of everything like freaking Princess Mononoke.

 

Thanks a lot, whoever woke up Fen'Harel.

 

TL;DR Predictions

 

1. Solas collapses the Veil, restores elven magic, looses spirits and demons to run rampant on the world

2. Elven Gods/Forgotten Ones are freed one way or another, maybe by Solas, begin to wreak their own havoc

3. Empowered elves rebel in Tevinter, collapsing their economy and infrastructure

4. The Qunari invade a weak Tevinter expecting one fight and instead end up fighting the elves, their gods, their magic and spirits

5. Something happens with all the people and creatures that are Blighted - Grey Wardens/Darkspawn/Magisters/Red Lyrium/possibly the Forgotten Ones or the Old Gods controlling them, a double Blight has been speculated

6. Something something something the dwarves in Kal'Sharok, the Carta dwarves and the Titans.

7. Possible Exalted March led by the Inquisition and their allies against the elven gods and the Qunari

8. Dragons?


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World of Thedas Volume 1 already said that the Qunari and the Imperium have made several attempts to retake mainland Tevinter and Seheron respectively and all have failed.



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I think it will depend on who writes it.  If it was plotted out before Inquisition's release...

I'd think we'd go Solas/Flemeth route.  More or less a story continuation.

Iron Bull pretty much tells you the Qunari are coming over at some point to convert everyone.  Then again, I think most Hawke's picked the kill the Arishok route.  One human can beat your well-bred leader...I think they'd have to be really ready...and BioWare has got to want to have the conflicting Chantry/Mage thing competing with Elven Gods, and for further story complication add in the Qunari.  I'd go with the three way battle of religions, and add in political intrigue.

If the Inquisitor dies then all of Thedas should pretty much fall apart.

Players dream: have a party made up of MY Warden, MY Hawke, MY Inquisitor, and whoever the new protagonist is for the next one.  

If the Inquisitor gets two games...

Hell, let's go through the Eluvian and pick up my Shepard while we're at it too;)  Sure it would never fly, but it's fun to dream;)  Why can't we have a Biotic/Mage?!?



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World of Thedas Volume 1 already said that the Qunari and the Imperium have made several attempts to retake mainland Tevinter and Seheron respectively and all have failed.

I thought the qunari were only fighting over Seheron? Isn't it hinted that if the qunari turned their full attention to thedas and full scale war they'd be a serious threat?



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I thought the qunari were only fighting over Seheron? Isn't it hinted that if the qunari turned their full attention to thedas and full scale war they'd be a serious threat?

 

They have tried a few invasions of Tevinter by the sea and were repulsed. The attempt mentioned in WoT2 certainly seemed to capture their full attention. 

 

It seems like they lost the "shock and awe" mojo they possessed during the first major Qunari wars. I don't expect them to be anywhere near as successful on their next attempt. 



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I haven't read WoT Volume 2 yet, but I think it's still not entirely clear what the balance of power is. I mean 12 dreadnaughts doesn't sound like a lot for a people who once fought across an entire continent. Dorian says that the idea that the Imperium can actually defeated the Qunari is a fiction the magisters tell themselves. It's one area where he and Fenris seem to agree.



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They sent an entire fleet at Qarinus, including a dozen dreadnoughts. The Kathaban (I assume the leader of the Qunari's navy) was so shamed by the loss he immediately resigned from his position. 
 
"Just playin' around" seems to be the go-to Qunari excuse for when they lose. No johns.


Sounds like the beginning of a bad Tevinter joke...

"How many sacrificed slaves does it take to laughable repel a Qunari invasion fleet?"
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  • There will probably be another Blight after which Grey Wardens\Remaining dragon cultists from Tewinter\Inquisition\Legion of Dead will try to find last remaining Old God and kill\hug it.
  • We will get into Black City at some point, though I'm not sure about circumstances.
  • Obvious Qunari invasion.
  • Possible return of elven gods

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  • There will probably be another Blight after which Grey Wardens\Remaining dragon cultists from Tewinter\Inquisition\Legion of Dead will try to find last remaining Old God and kill\hug it.
  • We will get into Black City at some point, though I'm not sure about circumstances.
  • Obvious Qunari invasion.
  • Possible return of elven gods

 

 

With the exception of the Blight, none of them really interest me at all - the Black City should remain mysterious, with only religion and the ravings of a madman to give us an idea of it's nature, the Qunari invasion is way to obvious (a turnaround where we see a full scale united Andrastean invasion of Seheron would be much more interesting, especially if we find that, these days, depsite all their bluster, the Qunari are somewhat of a paper tiger) and both elves and gods are a big meh in my book. And even then, I'd only want to see a Blight if it was a proper one, lasting decades if not centuries, not like the pathetic excuse for one we saw in Origins.



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I will add one caveat though. Whatever the next big event is, I hope it occurs after the next DA game. I'm tired of world shattering events being at the core of the game, I want a more personal small scale story.


Selfishly I hope this is not the case, as I felt even Inquisition was in some ways further padding toward another Origins-level event. I want something huge.

Alas, I seem to be in the minority.

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Selfishly I hope this is not the case, as I felt even Inquisition was in some ways further padding toward another Origins-level event. I want something huge.

Alas, I seem to be in the minority.

 

I would have no problem with the world shattering events to occur in DA5 - they are building up to something after all - I'd just rather a little break from that kind of thing for one game and have BW tell a different kind of story. ;)



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Hmm, well, fair enough!

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Selfishly I hope this is not the case, as I felt even Inquisition was in some ways further padding toward another Origins-level event. I want something huge.

Alas, I seem to be in the minority.

Big story, small story.  As long as it's a good story.


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Qunari invasion/Elven Gods scheming

 

Not only does that give them a reason to do another "Gather an Army" type of game, which is basically the go-to formula, but a Qunari invasion makes sense, as the rest of the world is weakened by the breach. Only Tevinter and the Inquisition can help stop the invasion.

 

The twist is that the Qunari are invading because something evil is about to happen, and it will originate somewhere in Thedas(enter Elven God sub-plot/Old God/whatever) and they want to stop it. And you only realize this when it's too late, after you've driven out the only force (Qunari) that can help you stop this evil - the end shows that the bad guy wins and all hope is lost (like the ME2 ending where the Reapers are about to invade) - that is until the next game where the new protagonist "Gathers a new army" to stop this evil.



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Whatever is going on with Fen/Solas. The Imperium. The schism in the Wardens..... list goes on and on and on.



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I'm still hoping for a Rivain/Antiva setting.

 

I'm sure whatever happens will turn out to be related to Solas' plans.  I haven't the faintest idea what those will turn out to be, I doubt many of the theories I've heard.

 

But maybe we could have something we haven't seen before.  How about a plague?  We haven't had that yet of all the medieval tropes Dragon Age has employed.  Might be interesting to see Thedas face a crisis that isn't Darkspawn, Demon, or Qunari related.  (Yes I realize the Blight has aspects of plague angle, but not what I'm talking about)



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Why is it more interesting if the Qunari are a paper tiger? What kind of drama are you going to possibly build from finding out your enemy is weaker and easier to defeat than you expected?



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Why is it more interesting if the Qunari are a paper tiger? What kind of drama are you going to possibly build from finding out your enemy is weaker and easier to defeat than you expected?

 

Off topic, but I just have to say that I like your sig. Very cool


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Why is it more interesting if the Qunari are a paper tiger? What kind of drama are you going to possibly build from finding out your enemy is weaker and easier to defeat than you expected?

 

You assume that the conflict between Andrastean Thedas and the Qunari is the focus of the story....

 

The collapse of the already overstretched Qunari authority in the face of invasion and the chaos that would leave is a perfect setting for a game. The united Andrastean forces, denied a decisive conflict, turn to feuding amongst themselves over the resources and lands (and technologies) formerly held by the Qunari.