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[CrutchCricket]

I think "Tempest" is a placeholder or more likely a fan moniker used for convenience.

 

It's a decent name for a ship but I don't know if it's right for this situation.

[Heimdall]

I think "Tempest" is a placeholder or more likely a fan moniker used for convenience.

It's a decent name for a ship but I don't know if it's right for this situation.

You know, I was just thinking Tempest could be the name of the Ship's classification rather than the ship itself.

[CrutchCricket]

That would be cool. I'm more intrigued by what a Tempest-class ship might look like than what the ship Tempest looks like for some reason.

[Heimerdinger]

"The Tempest" sounds like a ship name from a cartoon or comics series. I would prefer if they used the Alliance's naming convention. It would make it more recognizable as a Mass Effect game.

 

Frigates - named after great battles (examples "Normandy", "Agincourt")

Cruisers - cities on Earth (the "Shanghai")

Dreadnoughts - mountains on Earth (the "Everest")

Carriers - people of importance in human history (the "Hawking", the "Einstein")

 

The "Shepard" ...or maybe not.

[CrutchCricket]

I'd actually prefer if they didn't. I don't want to be an Alliance stooge again. Besides an Ark that travels to another galaxy? That has to be a joint effort. I don't want to see just humans or just asari or just quarians.

[Patchwork]

Pathfinders having Tempest class ships works for me.

 

This time around I'd prefer a ship name that sounds good but doesn't mean much in the real world e.g. Ebon Hawk, Claridon, Eureka Maru, Moya etc.  

[Aimi]

Well, you need Prospero, Miranda, Caliban, and Ariel.

Ferdinand, Trinculo, Stephano, and Gonzalo are also important I guess.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'd actually prefer if they didn't. I don't want to be an Alliance stooge again. Besides an Ark that travels to another galaxy? That has to be a joint effort. I don't want to see just humans or just asari or just quarians.

Well, we are apparently an N7, so you are going to be an "Alliance stooge" again. 

[CrutchCricket]

That doesn't mean the Alliance has to be in charge. Nor does it mean being an Alliance stooge is mandatory. Shepard was N7 and he was almost independent (yet another failure of ME3, stepping back as opposed to forward). I doubt Spectres will come into play again. But if the Ark is a joint initiative I would expect the PC to answer to whatever collective leadership they have and not just to the Alliance. Anything else is lame.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That doesn't mean the Alliance has to be in charge. Nor does it mean being an Alliance stooge is mandatory. Shepard was N7 and he was almost independent (yet another failure of ME3, stepping back as opposed to forward). I doubt Spectres will come into play again. But if the Ark is a joint initiative I would expect the PC to answer to whatever collective leadership they have and not just to the Alliance. Anything else is lame.

The leak says this is a human-led initiative, which means the Alliance is probably in charge. 

[CrutchCricket]

Not necessarily. It could be Cerberus. They have a history of having implausible amounts of resources, the Alliance doesn't.

 

Joking aside, if that does end up being the case it's incredibly dumb. Humans do not have the resources to launch, or be the major player in launching an intergalactic expedition. At any point in the series. No one does, by themselves.

[Tevinter Soldier]

The official protagonist clad in N7 armor...

 

As well as the Mako, an Alliance Navy vehicle...

 

Would like to refute your point that "we're not with the Alliance or any other military organisation [sic]." On the contrary, we know for a fact that we are "somehow related to N7," which means we are definitely a soldier again. Part of the reason this "leak" doesn't make any sense is because it doesn't reference what we already know about the protagonist in any capacity. It's entirely based on the Ark theory of being a "pathfinder," which is entirely fan fabricated. Hence, you should really be careful what you read over the internet.

 

on N7 day didn't they say we'd be explorers this time not all gun-ho super soldier?

maybe we can choose our background more indepth this time?

[The Elder King]

Not necessarily. It could be Cerberus. They have a history of having implausible amounts of resources, the Alliance doesn't.
 
Joking aside, if that does end up being the case it's incredibly dumb. Humans do not have the resources to launch, or be the major player in launching an intergalactic expedition. At any point in the series. No one does, by themselves.

If the leak is true, other races reached Andromeda as well, but each has their own colonization ship/a and projects (which makes se sense. A turian would search a different planet then other races). Which would mean the PC would still respond to a Human group.
And Since we're N7, the Group is likely Alliance-based.

[Revan Reborn]

on N7 day didn't they say we'd be explorers this time not all gun-ho super soldier?

maybe we can choose our background more indepth this time?

I don't believe BioWare has ever claimed we'd be explorers at all directly. What they have said is exploration, such as traveling planets via the Mako, will be a large part of the experience. That doesn't necessarily mean we are, by definition, "explorers." I use ME1 as a frame of reference as that's what BioWare Montreal is basing this principle off of. Shepard was a soldier. However, he was exploring the galaxy and various solar systems on his quest to find Saren and Sovereign.

 

To be an "explorer" suggests that your primary purpose is to go out and find new worlds or civilizations. We are "somehow related to N7." We have a brand new Mako. We are wearing N7 gear and are apparently very skilled, but do not have the reputation that Shepard has. All signs seem to suggest we are indeed a soldier again. I don't know where the Arkcon Pathfinder Initivate plays into this, if it's even relevant at all. For all we know, Arkcon is just a new Cerberus: An independent entity with its own aspirations and motivations separate from the main protagonist and his crew. They could very well be the brand new antagonist.

 

Unless you just take the "leak" as truth, BioWare has never actually made an affirmative statement that you are an "explorer."

[goishen]

 Shepard was a soldier.

 

 

Maybe yours was.  I made mine an engineer the first game.

 

Adept the second.  Infiltrator the third.  'Till finally the soldier was all that was left.

[Vazgen]

Maybe yours was.  I made mine an engineer the first game.

 

Adept the second.  Infiltrator the third.  'Till finally the soldier was all that was left.

All those are still Alliance soldiers. That's what he referred to, I think.

[Torgette]

That doesn't mean the Alliance has to be in charge. Nor does it mean being an Alliance stooge is mandatory. Shepard was N7 and he was almost independent (yet another failure of ME3, stepping back as opposed to forward). I doubt Spectres will come into play again. But if the Ark is a joint initiative I would expect the PC to answer to whatever collective leadership they have and not just to the Alliance. Anything else is lame.

 

I accepted the step back because of the circumstances of a reaper war trumping everything else. I do think we'll start out as a "Pathfinder" but graduate from there officially or unofficially at some point during the story.

[CrutchCricket]

If the leak is true, other races reached Andromeda as well, but each has their own colonization ship/a and projects (which makes se sense. A turian would search a different planet then other races). Which would mean the PC would still respond to a Human group.
And Since we're N7, the Group is likely Alliance-based.

It makes zero sense that every species can just up and move to a new galaxy on their own, independent from anyone else. Why were the Reapers a threat again?

 

At the current tech level, traveling to another galaxy should be near impossible. I accept a bit of a work around via retcon/convenient new addition, but it should still take the combined efforts of all the races to create a ship that can cross the distance. I mean a TIE figher can run rings around and backhand most ships in the MEU and even so when Star Wars did the whole "travel to a new galaxy" thing, it was a huge undertaking. I'm on board with this Andromeda thing, I really am. But not if everyone can just take the 8:30 Express Train to it whenever.

 

I accepted the step back because of the circumstances of a reaper war trumping everything else.

The Reaper war was precisely why it was a step backwards. Shepard is the chosen one (not in any mystical sense) to lead the entire galaxy against the Reapers. He should be long past allegiances to any one group. The Alliance doesn't matter any more than any other governing body. Just as Earth doesn't matter (or shouldn't matter) any more than any other homeworld. He is the speartip of the charge, the leader and symbol of the resistance. Or at least he should've been. Instead we got an errand boy that twiddled his thumbs for eight months then runs around doing everyone else's jobs.

[The Elder King]

It makes zero sense that every species can just up and move to a new galaxy on their own, independent from anyone else. Why were the Reapers a threat again?
 
At the current tech level, traveling to another galaxy should be near impossible. I accept a bit of a work around via retcon/convenient new addition, but it should still take the combined efforts of all the races to create a ship that can cross the distance. I mean a TIE figher can run rings around and backhand most ships in the MEU and even so when Star Wars did the whole "travel to a new galaxy" thing, it was a huge undertaking. I'm on board with this Andromeda thing, I really am. But not if everyone can just take the 8:30 Express Train to it whenever.
 

The Reaper war was precisely why it was a step backwards. Shepard is the chosen one (not in any mystical sense) to lead the entire galaxy against the Reapers. He should be long past allegiances to any one group. The Alliance doesn't matter any more than any other governing body. Just as Earth doesn't matter (or shouldn't matter) any more than any other homeworld. He is the speartip of the charge, the leader and symbol of the resistance. Or at least he should've been. Instead we got an errand boy that twiddled his thumbs for eight months then runs around doing everyone else's jobs.

I never said each species reached Andromeda indipendently.
I do think that if was a joint Project. What I meant is that each specie On Andromeda, While working together, have their own colonization Project. It wouldn't be logical to colonize all the same planet.

Basically I think it'll be similar to the council model. There'll be an interspecies 'government', and a indipendant group/Chain of command for every species.

So, in regards of the colonization projects, you'd still respond to the human group/hierarchy.

[marcelo caldas]

"The Tempest" sounds like a ship name from a cartoon or comics series. I would prefer if they used the Alliance's naming convention. It would make it more recognizable as a Mass Effect game.

Frigates - named after great battles (examples "Normandy", "Agincourt")
Cruisers - cities on Earth (the "Shanghai")
Dreadnoughts - mountains on Earth (the "Everest")
Carriers - people of importance in human history (the "Hawking", the "Einstein")

The "Shepard" ...or maybe not.

I hope we never hear anything about THE Shepard and hope to hear lots about Shepard

Edit: THE Shepard is the greatest fan disservice I can think of, besides changing the lore.

[marcelo caldas]

That doesn't mean the Alliance has to be in charge. Nor does it mean being an Alliance stooge is mandatory. Shepard was N7 and he was almost independent (yet another failure of ME3, stepping back as opposed to forward). I doubt Spectres will come into play again. But if the Ark is a joint initiative I would expect the PC to answer to whatever collective leadership they have and not just to the Alliance. Anything else is lame.

The pc is the leader of the pathfinder fleet, he gives all the cards and stablishes all the rules.

[The Elder King]

The pc is the leader of the pathfinder fleet, he gives all the cards and stablishes all the rules.

This isn't stated in the leak.

[Torgette]

The Reaper war was precisely why it was a step backwards. Shepard is the chosen one (not in any mystical sense) to lead the entire galaxy against the Reapers. He should be long past allegiances to any one group. The Alliance doesn't matter any more than any other governing body. Just as Earth doesn't matter (or shouldn't matter) any more than any other homeworld. He is the speartip of the charge, the leader and symbol of the resistance. Or at least he should've been. Instead we got an errand boy that twiddled his thumbs for eight months then runs around doing everyone else's jobs.

 

I think if they were to setup the story so you weren't "thrust into war" then they'd have to start the game months before the reapers invaded. Likely it was a concept choice early on to start with the reaper invasion and maybe they could've done something like Arrival where you're hurrying to do everything before the Reapers hit - but I think even in that scenario once the Reapers hit all sense of Shepard being above everybody else goes out the window - it's more about survivalism at that point.

 

As for the next Mass Effect game - this is actually where ME could learn from Dragon Age on your point about individualism: DAI does a great job of making you feel like the "chosen one" with all the power. In fact most of the game is about setting that up, culminating with you getting skyhold and telling armies where to go. The visual of you with a throne judging people also goes a long way to giving players that sense of power as well. I don't know where they could go from there with the Mass Effect universe as you're not commanding armies and certainly not judging criminals, but it is something I thought DAI executed well.

[CrutchCricket]

I never said each species reached Andromeda indipendently.
I do think that if was a joint Project. What I meant is that each specie On Andromeda, While working together, have their own colonization Project. It wouldn't be logical to colonize all the same planet.

Basically I think it'll be similar to the council model. There'll be an interspecies 'government', and a indipendant group/Chain of command for every species.

So, in regards of the colonization projects, you'd still respond to the human group/hierarchy.

I don't think that would count as "each species having their own colonization project". That still implies a level of operational independence I don't think is plausible. It's like they all came on one big ship and then split off to do their own thing. That doesn't sound logical, particularly if there's native sentient life potentially hostile to be considered.

 

They would obviously want to start multiple colonies. But apart from a few more exotic requirements (like dextro food or whatever volus breathe or an aquatic world for hanar) there isn't really a reason to segregate by species. Humans, asari, krogan and salarians could share a world. Turians and quarians could share (more difficult due to quarian lack of immunity but still) and so on.

 

I think if they were to setup the story so you weren't "thrust into war" then they'd have to start the game months before the reapers invaded. Likely it was a concept choice early on to start with the reaper invasion and maybe they could've done something like Arrival where you're hurrying to do everything before the Reapers hit - but I think even in that scenario once the Reapers hit all sense of Shepard being above everybody else goes out the window - it's more about survivalism at that point.

Well what could've (and really should've) been done before the war is another discussion. But it isn't about Shepard "being above" anyone. He's the face of resisting the Reapers. He's the best qualified. He's been fighting them since day one (relatively). You're on his team, not the other way around. The Reapers are everyone's problem. And he's the solution, or more to the point, everybody's solution, not just the Alliance's.