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[Deathangel008]

Go with the i3, single core performance is crap on the FX line.

 

Unless you're willing to OC the crap out of them and deal with the heat they're just not competitive.

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unless you only play older games without multicoresupport the FX6300 is the better choice.

Modifié par BioWareMod06, 24 avril 2015 - 05:21 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Where are you living? Indonesia?

 

My PSU is almost 800W! I was over cautious futuristic when I got it 4 years ago!

[Deathangel008]

Where are you living? Indonesia?

is this directed to me? if yes: germany.

and why do you need a 800W PSU??

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

is this directed to me? if yes: germany.

 

No I meant OP.

 

and why do you need a 800W PSU??

 

 

I don't know... well, the credit goes for my cousin who got it for me!

But I assume its power amount is fake. It might be actually 600W.

 

BTW, Geforce website itself says my GPU needs:

Minimum Recommended System Power (W): 500W

[Deathangel008]

BTW, Geforce website itself says my GPU needs:

Minimum Recommended System Power (W): 500W

do you also know why the say this? to make sure that the graphic card will run with even the worst chinacrap-PSU.
 

a "normal" system with a GTX760 and an i7 3770K @ 4,5GHz needs less than 300W.

and btw, for your question regarding your "malfunctional backside fan": how do you define "cheapass" and "semi-expensive"?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

and btw, for your question regarding your "malfunctional backside fan": how do you define "cheapass" and "semi-expensive"?

 

Like cheapest thing on the market... the other is some normal good fan available (more expensive than the previous). The expensive ones are the masterpiece and might be 10x more expensive than the cheapass ones and have higher longevity.

[Deathangel008]

i´m not a fan (haha, very funny) of the cheapest possible. i would recommend a "semi-expensive" one (or better). but i guess that doesnt really help you, considering the mass of fans (size, RPM, 3pin or 4pin/PWM, etc) on the market...

[bmwcrazy]

Yeah, the FX 6300 is a pretty good CPU. My friend has one in an HTPC and it's powerful enough to run any modern games with a tiny GTX 750 Ti. Just get a cheap 970 motherboard and you're good to go.

However, I think you should get at least 8GB of RAM if you want to play games. If you live in the US, there are always some cheap DDR3 kits on sale. Like I just got a 16GB DDR3 2400 kit for $105 USD.

[Deathangel008]

Just get a cheap 970 motherboard and you're good to go.

not too cheap please...

[Rannik]

uhhhhh are there programs that still use single core performance these days? also I checked the benchmark pages and videos... the 6300 handles crysis 3 pretty well stock clock

 
Last gen games, every single MMO and basically everything not made in Frostbite, Unreal or Cryengine still relies on dropping lots of stuff on one core.
 

BTW, Geforce website itself says my GPU needs:
Minimum Recommended System Power (W): 500W

And it's a lie, anything more than a decent 600W PSU is absolutely ridiculous for a single GPU build.

Just to put it in perspective, a system with the fastest desktop CPU (i7-4960X with some decent overclock, 4,2Ghz to be precise) plus the fastest gaming GPU in the market (Titan X) draws 392 Watts from the wall when playing Crysis 3, the whole system.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Number of cores don't really mean much when the differences between AMD and Intel architectures are so large. The i3 probably has more grunt than the FX, would be much more power efficient and cooler too. However, developers are starting to hard lock dual core CPUs from games.

So unless you can spring for a Quad Core i5, I'd go with AMD. FX 6300 is a decent enough CPU. It won't be the difference between a game being playable and unplayable.

As for a motherboard, the M5A97 (not the LE) is a good starting point. As is the MSI 970 Gaming if you want aesthetic appeal.

[Kaiser Shepard]

If you want budget performance, go with a Pentium G3258 (and maybe a nice CPU cooler); dual core but overclocks like crazy, and should be fine for most everything but the newest of the new.

 

It's a socket 1150 cpu as well, so if you get a bit of extra money later on you can always still upgrade to a nice i5 or maybe even i7 while keeping the same mobo.

[The Arbiter]

 
Last gen games, every single MMO and basically everything not made in Frostbite, Unreal or Cryengine still relies on dropping lots of stuff on one core.
 

And it's a lie, anything more than a decent 600W PSU is absolutely ridiculous for a single GPU build.

Just to put it in perspective, a system with the fastest desktop CPU (i7-4960X with some decent overclock, 4,2Ghz to be precise) plus the fastest gaming GPU in the market (Titan X) draws 392 Watts from the wall when playing Crysis 3, the whole system.

I have last Gen games... they pretty much run well except well... Borderlands 2 which rapes any dual core cpu's. A guy also had the same problem as mine... FPS drops while looking in villages, stutter here stutter there. Basically solved when he upgraded to four cores. The only game I have in my Steam library that uses one core is TORCHLIGHT II

[Inquisitor Recon]

Continuing at the same rate the next generation of AMD products will require a 2000w power supply and generate more heat than an afterburning turbofan.

[bmwcrazy]

Continuing at the same rate the next generation of AMD products will require a 2000w power supply and generate more heat than an afterburning turbofan.

I remember when Intel introduced the high-end 3.8 and 4ghz Prescott Pentium 4s, they were also power-hungry furnaces and AMD's Athlon 64s were much more efficient and generated less heat. As soon as Core 2 came out, the table had turned.

I used to be a huge fan of AMD. The first PC that I built had a 1.2ghz Athlon Thunderbird. I then moved on to an Athlon XP 2500+, following an Athlon 64 4000+ and an Athlon 64 X2 4800+. Now I look back, that 4800+ was the last AMD CPU I bought, and that was almost 10 years ago.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

DX 12 might result in AMD CPUs performing a lot better due to it's focus on more efficient multithreading. I wouldn't be surprised to see the old FX CPUs to match up to i5 or maybe even i7 Haswells.

The irony being that by the time DX 12 is industry standard, AMD and Intel will probably have different architectures for their newest CPU lines and the current lines with both be obsolete.

[Deathangel008]

Borderlands 2 which rapes any dual core cpu's.

i also had fps-drops in BL2 with both a quadcore i5 and a hexacore i7

 

Continuing at the same rate the next generation of AMD products will require a 2000w power supply and generate more heat than an afterburning turbofan.

serious or trolling?

 

If you want budget performance, go with a Pentium G3258 (and maybe a nice CPU cooler); dual core but overclocks like crazy, and should be fine for most everything but the newest of the new.

i really wouldnt buy a dualthread CPU nowadays nor recommend to buy one. if Intel at least an i3 imo.

[Farangbaa]

My advice is to not build a budget PC. Struggle longer and spend a tonne of money.