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Mixon

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Hi, I apologize for my English.

Here is my "My stage of denial":

If we could convert our research progress of Milky Way in percentage we would get about (very roughly) 1% of known (seen) part of our Galaxy in ME games.

Milky Way have about 300 billion of stars with possible planets around (science fact) and I wonder why developers desided to rip it after all... Andromeda? Seriously? The only reason could be - developers did not find the way out of those ME3 ***endings.

 

Really, if this is true, then what this new Mass Effect (4) will have of Mass Effect? Different Galaxy - different Universe, new Lore for 99%. If change the name of this new game to something different - who will recognize it as Mass Effect?

 

I just wish this rumor is a fake.

Cya,


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Mass Effect:  Starcraft



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Why do people keep bringing this up?  It should be readily apparent that finding new places to explore has nothing to do with the rationale for moving to Andromeda.


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Why do people keep bringing this up?  It should be readily apparent that finding new places to explore has nothing to do with the rationale for moving to Andromeda.

I think it does to some extent. You couldn't really do the story line that was hinted at in the leak because, although the council has only explored 1% of the galaxy, the reapers will have explored the entire thing. You probably wouldn't get the Remnant or the Khet in the milky way.


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Did we need another duplicate topic on this matter?
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Did we need another duplicate topic on this matter?

 

 

Could u please give a link?



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Yeah I'm with you but sadly I believe that the leak is not fake

 

I still can't believe that Bioware would go the silly reboot route and just get rid of ME as we know it



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Could u please give a link?


... :huh: 

http://forum.bioware...-the-milky-way/
http://forum.bioware...lkyway-deleted/
http://forum.bioware...-says-they-are/
http://forum.bioware...andromeda-then/
http://forum.bioware...romeda-setting/
http://forum.bioware...e-leak-is-true/
http://forum.bioware...r-trek-voyager/
http://forum.bioware...a-or-milky-way/
http://forum.bioware...-thread-on-gaf/
http://forum.bioware...lky-way-galaxy/
http://forum.bioware...s-ahoy-1842015/


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Yeah I'm with you but sadly I believe that the leak is not fake

 

I still can't believe that Bioware would go the silly reboot route and just get rid of ME as we know it

 

You must have seen some different leak. The one I saw is about a mission to the Andromeda galaxy, not a reboot.


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Moving the setting to Andromeda would mean the writers wouldn't have to address the results of the Crucible firing in ME3. The Crucible only affected the Milky Way. Obviously there was still a lot to see in the Milky Way, but the endings to Mass Effect 3 might have permanently broken that setting.

 

 

 

john_sheparrd, on 23 Apr 2015 - 6:22 PM, said:

I still can't believe that Bioware would go the silly reboot route and just get rid of ME as we know it

 

Assuming the leak is legit, ME:Next wouldn't be a reboot. A reboot is when you alter the existing timeline. An example of that would be if a Star Wars movie was released this year with Luke Skywalker killing Vader & the Emperor during the events of The Empire Strikes Back. That would alter the entire timeline and the previously canon chain of events. The leaked info doesn't imply that Bioware is going that route, it just states that the game is set in a different part of the universe.


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It's so we can find new alien races that we didn't forcibly turn into cyborgs (along with all of their vegetation!)  We could pick plants in the Milky Way, like in DA: I, but they would be Robo-Plants.



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You must have seen some different leak. The one I saw is about a mission to the Andromeda galaxy, not a reboot.

It certainly sounds like it

They are compeltely getting rid of the Milky way because they don't want to deal with ME3's endings



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It certainly sounds like it
They are compeltely getting rid of the Milky way because they don't want to deal with ME3's endings

That doesn't mean it's a reboot.
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new Lore for 99%.

Obvious hyperbole is obvious.



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It certainly sounds like it

They are compeltely getting rid of the Milky way because they don't want to deal with ME3's endings

 

It is a reboot only if it changes a previously canon chain of events, so that either the events of the Shepard trilogy don't happen or play out differently. Setting a Mass Effect game in Andromeda is not necessarily any more of a reboot than setting a Dragon Age game in Tevinter instead of Ferelden or Orlais.


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It certainly sounds like it

They are compeltely getting rid of the Milky way because they don't want to deal with ME3's endings

 

That's a solution to a problem, not a reboot. A reboot is a specific thing. 'Ang Lee's The Hulk' -> 'Marvel's The Incredible Hulk' is a reboot. This is not a reboot.



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ok, so it's not a fake...  :huh:



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ok, so it's not a fake... :huh:


Eh, maybe. We hypothesized a year ago about them taking the ark route because it is so easy, plausible, and tempting. That is, IF they dont want to canonize an ending. If they do, then all bets are off.
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Obvious hyperbole is obvious.

That's not entirely true. Remember what EDI said about other galaxies in a conversation with Shepard? It's very likely the laws of physics and everything the races in the Milky Way know are entirely different in another galaxy. The example she used was "1 + 1 = 3." This means that essentially everything we "know" about Mass Effect would go out the window as the entire experience could be drastically different from anything we've seen before. In other words, as many others have said time and time again, this is a reboot.


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That's not entirely true. Remember what EDI said about other galaxies in a conversation with Shepard? It's very likely the laws of physics and everything the races in the Milky Way know are entirely different in another galaxy. The example she used was "1 + 1 = 3." This means that essentially everything we "know" about Mass Effect would go out the window as the entire experience could be drastically different from anything we've seen before. In other words, as many others have said time and time again, this is a reboot.

She said universe, not galaxy. She was referring to the multiverse concept of universal "bubbles" on a cosmic sea or brane of existence. I believe the quote was her referring to the possibility of travelling far enough out (as in beyond the observable universe) such that the laws of physics which govern OUR observable universe no longer apply.

The dialogue was very straight forward and obviously did not have anything to do with physics in other galaxies. Besides that, It's ludicrous to think the laws of physics differ between galaxies. In fact, we can clearly observe that this is not the case with basic cosmology.
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The only was you can ignore the endings is by having the ship leave before the Crucible fires, and then there being no way back. Ever.


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Well i wouldn't call it a reboot until i see the game but it's definitely the path of least resistence: avoiding to have to deal with the ME3 Ending choices and finding a way to move foward by picking a canon.

That being said i can't say i am happy with this kind of decision (IF the leak is true). So are they going to jump galaxies everytime they reach a hard decision to not deal with it? <_<


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Hi, I apologize for my English.

Here is my "My stage of denial":

If we could convert our research progress of Milky Way in percentage we would get about (very roughly) 1% of known (seen) part of our Galaxy in ME games.

Milky Way have about 300 billion of stars with possible planets around (science fact) and I wonder why developers desided to rip it after all... Andromeda? Seriously? The only reason could be - developers did not find the way out of those ME3 ***endings.

 

Really, if this is true, then what this new Mass Effect (4) will have of Mass Effect? Different Galaxy - different Universe, new Lore for 99%. If change the name of this new game to something different - who will recognize it as Mass Effect?

 

I just wish this rumor is a fake.

Cya,

I think you answered your own question. 

 

Anyway, how many people would have complained if Bioware had choosen a canon ending for ME3 ? At least as many as those who complain about moving to Andromeda. We have had already a lot of players angry that their choices where meaningless regarding ME3 ending, Bioware couldn't do a step further and ignore even the final choice of the trilogy. I think that moving to an other galaxy was the best less bad solution for them. 



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The only was you can ignore the endings is by having the ship leave before the Crucible fires, and then there being no way back. Ever.

Well it could use a plot like "the Crucible was fired your ship used a Relay to try to run but the combination of you just initiating the jump and Crucible energy hitting slingshot you to Andromeda and the reaction stopped whatever effect The Shepard had initiated from effecting the crew/ship." As much as I don't like the setting if I am there this is how I'd prefer it to happen if it's true.


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... :huh: 
http://forum.bioware...-the-milky-way/
http://forum.bioware...lkyway-deleted/
http://forum.bioware...-says-they-are/
http://forum.bioware...andromeda-then/
http://forum.bioware...romeda-setting/
http://forum.bioware...e-leak-is-true/
http://forum.bioware...r-trek-voyager/
http://forum.bioware...a-or-milky-way/
http://forum.bioware...-thread-on-gaf/
http://forum.bioware...lky-way-galaxy/
http://forum.bioware...s-ahoy-1842015/


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