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[Mcfly616]

This thread is asking what you think of the leak details with the assumption that they are legit. Obviously they might not be, but you can't discuss opinions on whether or not those details would be good for the series if true, without pretending for a moment that they are entirely legit.

 

In any case that's quite a bold statement. It is asking for a requote bump if leak details end up panning out. 

  you're right. Well, on-topic then: if it's true then I like some of the features, but the premise of the setting/plot is recycled b-level trash.

 

I don't see how it's bold. Many of the previous leaks never even happened (remember clevernoobs so-called leaked DLC schedule for ME3), nor do they ever come to fruition in their leaked form (ME3 ending). So, like I said, bits of confirmed features and logical extrapolations sprinkled within a manifesto of what the author hopes to see in the next game, is nothing to lend any credence to.

[dreamgazer]

Many of the previous leaks never even happened (remember clevernoobs so-called leaked DLC schedule for ME3), nor do they ever come to fruition in their leaked form (ME3 ending). 

 

Definitely agree that the former should be kept in mind, but the latter isn't quite correct: http://www.eurogamer...o-story-and-art

 

This survey (more like a padded-out info-dump) is significantly different to that of the Inquisition leak, but it has happened. 

[The Elder King]

you're right. Well, on-topic then: if it's true then I like some of the features, but the premise of the setting/plot is recycled b-level trash.

I don't see how it's bold. Many of the previous leaks never even happened (remember clevernoobs so-called leaked DLC schedule for ME3), nor do they ever come to fruition in their leaked form (ME3 ending). So, like I said, bits of confirmed features and logical extrapolations sprinkled within a manifesto of what the author hopes to see in the next game, is nothing to lend any credence to.

The last Bioware leak was true Though, and it came from a survey.
That doesn't mean that this leak is true, And the DAI leak was very different, but I think it's better to consider the possibility (even if low) that it might be.

[Mcfly616]

Definitely agree that the former should be kept in mind, but the latter isn't quite correct: http://www.eurogamer...o-story-and-art

 

This survey (more like a padded-out info-dump) is significantly different to that of the Inquisition leak, but it has happened. 

 if by the latter you're referring to the ME3 ending leak coming to fruition....well, it didn't. Certain things remained the same, but conventionally and contextually it was not what the leak foretold at all. Context changes everything.

[Han Shot First]

A heavy dose of salt with the leaks is definitely warranted.

 

But there are reasons to not dismiss them entirely as well. A person known for having insider information from Bioware said it was consistent with some of what he heard, and Bioware has had information on games leak before. In fact it has happened with both of their most recent releases. 

 

I'd give the leak even odds if I were a gambler. 

[dreamgazer]

 if by the latter you're referring to the ME3 ending leak coming to fruition....well, it didn't. Certain things remained the same, but conventionally and contextually it was not what the leak foretold at all. Context changes everything.

 

The link directs to a Dragon Age: Inquisition survey, full of content which came to fruition in its leaked form. 

[Mcfly616]

The last Bioware leak was true Though, and it came from a survey.
That doesn't mean that this leak is true, And the DAI leak was very different, but I think it's better to consider the possibility (even if low) that it might be.

 The last leak. Sure. But how many before that weren't? Pretty much all of them...

[The Elder King]

The last leak. Sure. But how many before that weren't? Pretty much all of them...

The fact that if happens only once doesn't mean it's safe to dismiss entirely the possibly of the Andromeda leak to be true. You can say that there are low chances, but to say there none is bold, in my opinion.

[katamuro]

But FTL, feasible FTL without the need for staggering amounts of energy, has suddenly entered the realm of possibilities.

You can not possibly be not excited.

Its the same kind of possibility that outer space colonies are right now. Even less so. Fusion is an already proven thing and yet for the past 50 years we still havent made it real. And it would take at least a decade or two more. 

[Farangbaa]

Its the same kind of possibility that outer space colonies are right now. Even less so. Fusion is an already proven thing and yet for the past 50 years we still havent made it real. And it would take at least a decade or two more.

Hey man, just believe.

In this man:


You can be there

[Mcfly616]

The fact that if happens only once doesn't mean it's safe to dismiss entirely the possibly of the Andromeda leak to be true. You can say that there are low chances, but to say there none is bold, in my opinion.

 I literally said there is truth sprinkled within it. I just view the thing in its entirety as fake. The author spun it how he wanted imo. 

 

To say its legitimate is even more bold.

[wolfhowwl]

The only thing I'm worried about is the "100 planets." It doesn't sound like Dragon Age: Inquisition's side content, it sounds like Mass Effect 1's side content, which is even worse. Having said that we have virtually no details on how it will be done so I'm reserving judgment. So long as we still get ~30 hours of story/combat missions and they don't gate progression like Power did for Inquisition, I don't see the issue. Many people just want to roam around planets with the Mako and enjoy the vastness of space, and I don't begrudge them that. I just hope I can find enough of ME2/3 in there to satisfy me.

 

This. I'm not going to begrudge people who like it getting SOME Uncharted World-type levels but I really hope the handling of it is stronger than in ME1 and the ratio of meaty content to areas is much better.

[BabyPuncher]

I think it sucks and, if true, is very indicative of a continued failure to understand and implement measures to fix what went wrong in ME 3 and Inquisition.

 

'Seemless travel from space to ground' has about a 100% chance of pissing on the lore. And for what?

[goishen]

Assuming for a moment that the survey leak details are legit, what are you thoughts? Do you like the concept or some of the mentioned features, or does it make you less interested in buying the game?

 

A direct sequel to the Shepard trilogy set in Council space would probably be the setting that would interest me most, assuming it either doesn't force Synthesis, is based on a post-Destroy galaxy, or manages to carry over all three endings in a mostly satisfactory way. All of those things are very big ifs however, and there are some decisions Bioware could make with a direct sequel that would totally derail the hype train for me. I'd much rather play an Ark Theory game than a sole canon Synthesis sequel. Unlike some here I also never had an issue with the Ark Theory concept, and always thought it had potential to be interesting. I thought the stuff about Andromeda was the best part of the leak info. I'm down for Mass Effect: Voyager.

 

On the other hand all that stuff about collecting resources to fuel your growth, exploring hundreds of solar systems, and and the game world being 4x the size of Mass Effect 3 is a little disconcerting. That sounds a lot like the worst parts of Dragon Age: Inquisition. Sometimes less is more, and I'd rather have a smaller game with a tighter story and more focus on characters & immersive elements, than a sprawling but largely dull and lifeless Skyrim clone. Still, it's way too early to draw any conclusions from that, particularly without any official word on the game's features. 

 

The crew & loyalty missions: Nothing really new there, and to be expected to some extent. The mission for the Krogan crewmate sounded interesting. Also a Krogan squaddie? YUHHS!

 

Strike Team Missions: Sounds like multiplayer is being forced into the singleplayer game. That's exactly the kind of sh-t EA can be expected to pull, which may point to this leak as being legit. Can't say I'm excited about that though. By all means include multiplayer, but don't make it necessary to get the best ending in the singleplayer game.

 

Improved interrupts and more 'action' during dialogue? Sounds good.

 

Seamlessly travel from space to ground without loading screeens? Awesome.

 

 

It doesn't really make one ****'s bit of difference to me. 

 

On one hand they can either go on with the old story of Shepard's galaxy (or the Milky Way) mired in prolly civil wars and turmoil over who gets what resources and fighting over who's job it is to rebuild each mass relay.

 

On the other, we can move it to another galaxy.  Have none of that, have all the same tech.  Write something into the codex saying that each race has a lifespan of about 55K - 60K years, and voila.   It all comes together. 

 

It only makes a difference if the choices that we made in the previous games matter.  If they don't?   Hey...   More power to 'em.   Fist bump BioWare.  

[ElitePinecone]

 if by the latter you're referring to the ME3 ending leak coming to fruition....well, it didn't. Certain things remained the same, but conventionally and contextually it was not what the leak foretold at all. Context changes everything.

 

What? That's not true at all.

 

The stuff that was leaked was exactly what we got in the game, right down to the Catalyst's dialogue being identical.

[TheChosenOne]

 

I want solid proof. And when I mean proof, I mean a Bioware Dec/producer coming out and saying this/that is true. Not some bullshit post on Neogaf.. 

[The Elder King]

I literally said there is truth sprinkled within it. I just view the thing in its entirety as fake. The author spun it how he wanted imo. 
 
To say its legitimate is even more bold.

I agree that Saying that it's surely true is bold as well. I think both sides (the ones that believe it's surely true/false), Should consider the alternative.

[Broganisity]

I think I'm tired of Leaks being a common thing.

Someone fix the damn ceiling so the moss stops growing under the carpet.

[dlux]

Sounds like Mass Effect: Inquisition with an awful plot. I couldn't be less thrilled.

 

The next Mass Effect game takes place in the Helius Cluster, a cluster of 100s of solar systems in the Andromeda Galaxy [...] You are a pathfinder, a combat trained but un-tested explorer leading an expedition into the Helius cluster to establish a new home for humanity.

So the entire Milky Way has become uninhabitable in ME4... Hundreds of billions of star systems with hundreds of millions of potentially habitable planets, yet Andromeda has to be colonized anyway. 

 

Sounds like Mac Walters is doing his "magic" once again.

[The Elder King]

Sounds like Mass Effect: Inquisition with an awful plot. I couldn't be less thrilled.
 

So the entire Milky Way has become uninhabitable in ME4... Hundreds of billions of star systems with hundreds of millions of potentially habitable planets, yet Andromeda has to be colonized anyway. 
 
Sounds like Mac Walters is doing his "magic" once again.

I doubt that the reason to moving to Andromeda (in-game) was the lack of colonizable planets. Though I'm very concerned about the possibility of space magic involved.

[ElitePinecone]

So the entire Milky Way has become uninhabitable in ME4... Hundreds of billions of star systems with hundreds of millions of potentially habitable planets, yet Andromeda has to be colonized anyway. 

 

Sounds like Mac Walters is doing his "magic" once again.

 

The leading theory at the moment is that before the end of ME3, the Council or some organisation sent out an ark ship with colonists on board just in case the Reapers won. Hundreds of years later it has ended up in Andromeda, and the people on board need to explore this new space to find habitable worlds and resources to survive.

 

It has nothing to do with whether or not the Milky Way is still habitable. I'd wait a bit before jumping to conclusions. 

[CannotCompute]

I don't think the leak is legit. It's just a fan making some educated guesses.

Most people can come up with the Ark storyline & Andromeda setting by regularly reading the forums & watching the Charting a Course: Developing the Next Mass Effect, E3 2014 & N7 Day 2014 vids.

A lot of the other stuff, like f.e. character names, game size, race names, etc., is most likely completely made-up.

[Farangbaa]

I doubt that the reason to moving to Andromeda (in-game) was the lack of colonizable planets. Though I'm very concerned about the possibility of space magic involved.

Why?

Space magic = Mass Effect. Even ME1 is littered with the stuff; the Cipher and the 'essence of life', whatever that may be.