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#51
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I don't think the leak is legit. It's just a fan making some educated guesses.

Sounds pretty legit to me. Bioware seems to be severing all connections to the trilogy and starting completely new in the Andromeda Galaxy. They can't (or don't want to) fix that mess they made in Mass Effect 3 and apparently won't retcon the story either. Nope, gotta go to Andromeda.
 

The leading theory at the moment is that before the end of ME3, the Council or some organisation sent out an ark ship with colonists on board just in case the Reapers won. Hundreds of years later it has ended up in Andromeda, and the people on board need to explore this new space to find habitable worlds and resources to survive.
 
It has nothing to do with whether or not the Milky Way is still habitable. I'd wait a bit before jumping to conclusions.

And the quantum entanglement communicator in the Ark is broken, amirite?
 
Anyway, The Milky Way is uninhabitable, because it was engulfed by Mac Walters' space magic... well mostly dependant on which ending you chose.



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I think people are mixing up the in-universe reasons for going to Andromeda with the out-of-universe ones. 

 

"We" know that this decision was made most probably because ME3's endings changed the galaxy too much and they need to get away from the setting. If they could, I'm sure Bioware would've preferred to set it in the Milky Way.

 

But if we're looking at the potential explanations within the game for sending colonists to a new galaxy, a back-up plan to escape the Reapers isn't that far-fetched.


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Why?Space magic = Mass Effect. Even ME1 is littered with the stuff; the Cipher and the 'essence of life', whatever that may be.

I'm not saying the IP isn't full of space magic from the start. I'm just saying I'd prefer less of It.

I think people are mixing up the in-universe reasons for going to Andromeda with the out-of-universe ones. 
 
"We" know that this decision was made most probably because ME3's endings changed the galaxy too much and they need to get away from the setting. If they could, I'm sure Bioware would've preferred to set it in the Milky Way.
 
But if we're looking at the potential explanations within the game for sending colonists to a new galaxy, a back-up plan to escape the Reapers isn't that far-fetched.

Depends on how they wrote it.
I do think there's the chance they came up With a decent explanation, but there's the chance they went with Space magic as well.

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Just read through the leak a second time. Some things don't make sense.

 

 

 

You are a pathfinder, a combat trained but un-tested explorer leading an expedition into the Helius cluster to establish a new home for humanity

 

Humanity has a home in the Milky Way. Earth just needs some rebuilding after the war.

 

 

 

As you uncover who the Remnant were, and the mysteries their ruins contain, you are drawn into a violent race to find the source of their forgotten technology that will determine the fate of humanity.

 

Fate of humanity? Humanity was saved when they won the Reaper War. Humans are doing fine back home.

 

If these Ark people are some kind of plan B, just in case the Reaper war was lost, then they are the subjects of some epic trolling. The races won the war and everyone back home is rebuilding while they are stuck in the middle of nowhere with Keths and Remnants. Their initial mission is pointless. Why not go back? This plot sounds like a joke. Unless this is some kind of post war expedition to explore Andromeda? Something like Stargate Atlantis could work but what's with the whole fate of humanity BS then?



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I thought it was interesting. The only thing I strongly dislike was the "100+ planets to explore" things. That would most certainly mean quantity of quality.


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I'm not saying the IP isn't full of space magic from the start. I'm just saying I'd prefer less of It. Depends on how they wrote it.
I do think there's the chance they came up With a decent explanation, but there's the chance they went with Space magic as well.

Space magic... I like that.

 

Anyway, in ME3 the relays were destroyed, then Bioware gave us DLC which split that hair and said the relays weren't completely destroyed and they had been fixed.  i suspect they're going to split that hair again and say "the change," if you chose one, only effected those systems near active relays, leaving most of the Milky Way virgin territory.  Any ship not in one of those systems would be unaffected allowing for exploratory missions.  In fact there might already be settlements, human and otherwise, in some of those unaffected systems.

 

Second anyway, I think the 'survey' is so much ho ho.  There's too much detail included for in something sent to "someone who occasionally does surveys to earn money.  Such this:

 

 When a Krogan colony ship has been stolen by one of the outlaw factions leaving the colonists stranded without resources to survive, your Krogan squad mate, Drack, is determined to strike out against them. If you take the mission and help him track down the outlaws’ hideout to return the ship to its rightful owners, Drack’s loyalty toward you and your squad will increase and Drack will unlock a brand new skill tree.

 

Also note the use of the words 'colony ship.'  Ooops, there goes the Ark theory.



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Second anyway, I think the 'survey' is so much ho ho.  There's too much detail included for in something sent to "someone who occasionally does surveys to earn money.  Such this:

 

 When a Krogan colony ship has been stolen by one of the outlaw factions leaving the colonists stranded without resources to survive, your Krogan squad mate, Drack, is determined to strike out against them. If you take the mission and help him track down the outlaws’ hideout to return the ship to its rightful owners, Drack’s loyalty toward you and your squad will increase and Drack will unlock a brand new skill tree.

 

Also note the use of the words 'colony ship.'  Ooops, there goes the Ark theory.

 

I think that's actually a reasonable amount of detail for a smaller side mission, and there's probably a big difference between a colony ship and the "Ark", an Ark implies a central hub with tens of thousands of individuals while a colony ship could be just 20.

 

Humanity has a home in the Milky Way. Earth just needs some rebuilding after the war.

 

 

Fate of humanity? Humanity was saved when they won the Reaper War. Humans are doing fine back home.

 

I suppose they can always have a second home, maybe earth becomes uninhabitable, remember that Earth 2 tv show? I do agree the whole "fate of humanity" thing is doesn't make much sense unless what you find in Andromeda can also affect the Milky Way, though that's also assuming this whole thing isn't a one way trip. I also wonder what the point is of emphasizing a human expedition when it's clear you'll have a multi-species crew?



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If there's no way back to the MW, the phrases about a new Home for humanity, as well as its fate, make sense.
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If these Ark people are some kind of plan B, just in case the Reaper war was lost, then they are the subjects of some epic trolling. The races won the war and everyone back home is rebuilding while they are stuck in the middle of nowhere with Keths and Remnants. Their initial mission is pointless. Why not go back? This plot sounds like a joke. Unless this is some kind of post war expedition to explore Andromeda? Something like Stargate Atlantis could work but what's with the whole fate of humanity BS then?

 

They don't necessarily know that the war was won though, especially if it took 200 to 500 years to get to Andromeda. I could see the ark having instructions not to go back or to try to contact people from the Milky Way, too, just in case it alerted the Reapers. 

 

I interpreted "a new home for humanity" as "a new home [in this sector of the universe] for humanity". We have to assume that humans in Andromeda would be separate from humans in the Milky Way, "forever", unless someone wanted to spend 1000 years in cryo sleep to do round trips between the galaxies.

 

As for determining the fate of humanity, I guess that's something we'll find out in time. Maybe the Remnant technology is so powerful that the khet would use it to destroy us if they got their hands on it, or maybe (in human hands) it could be a source of huge advancement. 


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 Anyway, The Milky Way is uninhabitable, because it was engulfed by Mac Walters' space magic... well mostly dependant on which ending you chose.

 

While I'm totally down for an Ark Theory game, I'd love to eventually see a direct sequel to the Shepard trilogy set in Council space. 

 

But I think Bioware made it extremely difficult to pull that off. It isn't impossible, but ME3's endings did create a minefield for the writers. Its definitely a lot less risky for them to just roll with prequels, sidequels, or games set in Andromeda.

 

One of the worst aspects of Mass Effect 3's endings in retrospect is that they don't lend themselves to creating a single sequel from all three options. Hopefully Bioware learned it's lesson with that, and doesn't make the same mistake with ME: Next. 


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They don't necessarily know that the war was won though, especially if it took 200 to 500 years to get to Andromeda. I could see the ark having instructions not to go back or to try to contact people from the Milky Way, too, just in case it alerted the Reapers. 

 

I interpreted "a new home for humanity" as "a new home [in this sector of the universe] for humanity". We have to assume that humans in Andromeda would be separate from humans in the Milky Way, "forever", unless someone wanted to spend 1000 years in cryo sleep to do round trips between the galaxies.

 

As for determining the fate of humanity, I guess that's something we'll find out in time. Maybe the Remnant technology is so powerful that the khet would use it to destroy us if they got their hands on it, or maybe (in human hands) it could be a source of huge advancement. 

 

Eh yeah, but the audience already knows what happened, it'd be frustrating if anybody brings it up.



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Generally, it sounds like once again, the PC will have a great deal of responsibility and authority.

Scour solar systems and planets within the Helius Cluster to find valuable resources and blueprints of long forgotten alien technology that will allow you to craft better equipment and weapons
Sounds good to me, but I hope the goodies are plentiful and not related to an RNG. I'd like some certainty wrt getting the goodies, and not end up feeling like I need to keep hunting for something I may never find.

Throughout the story, you will recruit seven distinct crew members to fight by your side. 
Not quite sure how this will work in Andromeda, at least not with familiar races.

Strike Team Missions
Sounds like we can upgrade them, so there may be some interesting strategy to managing them.

Multiplayer aspects
Generally, I prefer that MP not impact the economy of SP. From the description, it sounds like it will: By taking an active role in strike team missions, you can earn special Single-player rewards in addition to the usual multiplayer specific characters, weapons, weapon mods, and pieces of equipment which can be customized between missions. Additionally, players who join another person’s Strike Team mission will receive bonus in-game currency and multiplayer XP for helping others with their missions.

Search solar systems for rare habitable planets to establish a settlement that could serve as a base for humankind’s new home in the Helius Cluster. As you build permanent settlements
Sounds very RTS - like. But I like RTS, so I'm in.

Customization? Yes, please.

The rest looks okay.

It does sound like it will have a lot of non-story, non-plot related content.

I notice the summary indicates the ship is pilotable, but I don't see that in the longer version, reading this: http://www.neogaf.co...d.php?t=1031314

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Humanity has a home in the Milky Way. Earth just needs some rebuilding after the war.
 
Fate of humanity? Humanity was saved when they won the Reaper War. Humans are doing fine back home.

Consider the context. Whoever wrote that survey (if it's legit) would want to set an overall mood or premise with simple, minimalist language.


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In this game, there's undoubtedly gonna be characters and squadmates that are gonna be very similar to the ones from the trilogy. And some I might be liking better than the old ones, I'm not ruling that out. But it is also very likely that I'm gonna like some the new ones a lot less.

Now I'm not worried at all about this taking place in Andromeda or team strike mission or whatever, I like the basic Mass Effect formula, and I'm pretty sure I will like that in the next one. The thing I am really worried about is that I will be thinking at some point: 'christ, I wish that this Krogan was Grunt instead of Dreck'. - Just an example, maybe I will like Dreck better, there's no telling for now. But that there will be characters that I wish were their older incarnations instead I think is inevitable.

 

It may seem like a small thing, but it makes all the difference. The ME characters, mostly the ones from ME2, are the thing that I imprinted on, and without them I think the game will be just okay, not something that I have a flaming passion for. That's worrying me the most of all. The second thing is that I see no signs of spaceship battles.



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My thoughts? It's absolute rubbish unless BioWare confirms it as being true. The survey is suggesting many things that BioWare has explicitly stated would not be the case in the next Mass Effect. This means either BioWare is lying, which could be true, or the survey is a hoax that is keeping you all occupied with its nonsense. I'm more inclined to believe the latter. I'll list a few things BioWare has stated that directly contradict the survey:

 

-The new protagonist will be "somehow related to N7" and even wears N7 armor. (Comic Con 2014)

-The new protagonist will be skilled, but not an established hero like Shepard. (N7 Day 2014)

-The new story of the next Mass Effect will be much more personal than the Shepard trilogy. (N7 Day 2014)

-It is very likely we will see familiar faces in the next Mass Effect. (Comic Con 2014)

-The Mako, an Alliance Navy vehicle, is making a return in a major way. (Comic Con 2014)

-The next Mass Effect will not use Dragon Age Inquisition as a template. (Aaryn Flynn interview)

 

These realities are enough to make anyone question the survey if they've actually followed closely what BioWare has stated about the next Mass Effect.


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Leaving the Milky Way doesn`t sound very good to me, but it's still better than a post synthesis scenario, and if this is what it takes to deal with the ending, so be it. Other than that, there are a lot of things that actually sound good to me. Most of all, the focus on exploration and colonization. In Sci Fi stories by far the most appealing thing for me is the feeling of discovering new things and places and take the role of an explorer like Magellan or Francis Drake. Bringing the Mako back is definitely a good idea in this context, so you actually can visit the planets you discover and not just throw probes on them.

Insofar, contrary to the op, the things about the big world map and the resources gathering actually sound good to me, and it's hopefully in an open world enviroment. I don't know how DA:I was, but i liked Skyrim, even though I'm not so much into Fantasy settings, specifically because I had this big world map where I could go wherever I want to. Sometimes I just enjoy to simply explore the surrounding and forget the story for a moment. The last ME-game where I could really do that was the first one, which is in a way still kinda my favourite even though gameplay and graphics are outdated (or better, it would have been my favourite if it had gameplay and MP from ME3). As for some of the other things mentioned in the leak.

 

Dialogue: "...you can make meaningful choices in every conversation..." etc. Sounds good to me. Hopefully this means less auto dialoge or dialogue options with basically the same content. I don`t know how other people felt about this, but I felt like I had too little control over the character I was playing so far, (and I don't mean the fact that Shepard dies at the end). For example, during the genophage arc for a long time I felt I could not play a Shepard that agrees with the genophage. There just wasn't a dialogue option where (s)he could voice a desire not to cure or at least his/her frustraton with the situation until the point where you actually start the final mission. I hope the next game gives the player more control of the opinions and characteristic traits of the main character.

 

7 crew members: Seven sounds reasonable to me. Not too much, I would actually even settle for less. Sorry, but I really don't think a game in an exciting Sci Fi setting should be all about romances and bromances. If it's part of the game it's perfectly fine, but it shouldn't overtop everything else at the cost of story and exploration (like in ME2).

 

Multiplayer:  Definitely a plus. I'm a fan of ME3 multiplayer. For me it was like I bought 2 games for the price of one (SP and MP). And when I think about it, multiplayer and free exploration of an interesting world map are the things that kept me playing a game, even after the story got boring already. So if the next ME game will have both of these things, it is definitely a big big plus, as it adds many hours more of entertainment. 



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My thoughts? It's absolute rubbish unless BioWare confirms it as being true. The survey is suggesting many things that BioWare has explicitly stated would not be the case in the next Mass Effect. This means either BioWare is lying, which could be true, or the survey is a hoax that is keeping you all occupied with its nonsense. I'm more inclined to believe the latter. I'll list a few things BioWare has stated that directly contradict the survey:

 

-The new protagonist will be "somehow related to N7" and even wears N7 armor. (Comic Con 2014)

-The new protagonist will be skilled, but not an established hero like Shepard. (N7 Day 2014)

-The new story of the next Mass Effect will be much more personal than the Shepard trilogy. (N7 Day 2014)

-It is very likely we will see familiar faces in the next Mass Effect. (Comic Con 2014)

-The Mako, an Alliance Navy vehicle, is making a return in a major way. (Comic Con 2014)

-The next Mass Effect will not use Dragon Age Inquisition as a template. (Aaryn Flynn interview)

 

These realities are enough to make anyone question the survey if they've actually followed closely what BioWare has stated about the next Mass Effect.

 

It may well be that the supposed leak isn't legit, but I don't think any of those statements necessarily rule out the leak as being legit.

 

  • The new protagonist will be somehow related to N7 - The protagonist could have been an N7 during the Reaper War. What if the characters of ME:Next are Reaper War survivors that were in cryo sleep during the journey to Andromeda?
  • The new protagonist will be skilled but not an established hero like Shepard - Nothing in the leak says that the new protagonist would be an established hero. In any case wouldn't N7 status run counter to that statement anyway?
  • The new story of the next Mass Effect will be much more personal than the Shepard trilogy - Whether or not a story is personal has little to do with where it is set
  • It is very likely we will see familiar faces in the next Mass Effect - Familiar faces could end up aboard an ark ship. There is nothing to prevent some of the non-party NPCs from being Andromeda colonists.
  • The Mako, an Alliance Navy vehicle, is making a return in a major way - If the Andromeda colonists are actual survivors of the Reaper War and not their descendants, they would be using imported Reaper War technology. We should expect them to be using the Mako as the ground combat/exploration vehicle. In any case the Mako concept we saw looked different than the familiar version from the Shepard trilogy.
  • The next Mass Effect will not use Dragon Age: Inquisition as a template - This is the only one that perhaps works against the leak details, but I also don't think it rules it out entirely. After all in marketing speak it was also claimed that Dragon Age: Inquisition wouldn't have many of the flaws that it actually turned out to have 


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It may well be that the supposed leak isn't legit, but I don't think any of those statements necessarily rule out the leak as being legit.

 

  • The new protagonist will be somehow related to N7 - The protagonist could have been an N7 during the Reaper War. What if the characters of ME:Next are Reaper War survivors that were in cryo sleep during the journey to Andromeda?
  • The new protagonist will be skilled but not an established hero like Shepard - Nothing in the leak says that the new protagonist would be an established hero. In any case wouldn't N7 status run counter to that statement anyway?
  • The new story of the next Mass Effect will be much more personal than the Shepard trilogy - Whether or not a story is personal has little to do with where it is set
  • It is very likely we will see familiar faces in the next Mass Effect - Familiar faces could end up aboard an ark ship. There is nothing to prevent some of the non-party NPCs from being Andromeda colonists.
  • The Mako, an Alliance Navy vehicle, is making a return in a major way - If the Andromeda colonists are actual survivors of the Reaper War and not their descendants, they would be using imported Reaper War technology. We should expect them to be using the Mako as the ground combat/exploration vehicle. In any case the Mako concept we saw looked different than the familiar version from the Shepard trilogy.
  • The next Mass Effect will not use Dragon Age: Inquisition as a template - This is the only one that perhaps works against the leak details, but I also don't think it rules it out entirely. After all in marketing speak it was also claimed that Dragon Age: Inquisition wouldn't have many of the flaws that it actually turned out to have 

 

Let me further elaborate on these points and why they are a contradiction.

 

1. The entire survey is based on the premise of the Ark theory. In other words, the Arkcon Pathfinder Initiative that BioWare Montreal teased in a tweet. We have no reason or evidence to suggest this is in any way affiliated with N7, let alone the Alliance Navy. Yet, the entire survey is built on the premise that you are a "patfinder," which appears to be an explorer and not a soldier. Thus, it's unlikely what we know from BioWare about the protagonist can also be true about what the survey suggests about the protagonist.

 

2. BioWare seemed to describe the new protagonist as a N7 recruit, similar to James Vega. He/She doesn't have a reputation yet, but has gotten far enough along to have been invited into an elite organization. Again, BioWare's explanation bears heavy weight that we seem to be going towards another military/soldier-esque story. The survey in no way supports that evidence.

 

3. You missed the point here. The new "story" in the survey is another conflict of galactic proportions with humanity on the line and the protagonist has to save it. What BioWare has described is we will not have another "Shepard story" and this will be much more intimate and building relationships with your crew. Again, more reason to believe this survey is fan-made.

 

4. Who exactly would constitute as a "familiar face" we could see outside the main party? Many of the side characters established throughout the trilogy died in ME3 in one way or another. I'm fairly certain BioWare was alluding to previous party members, similar to how Leliana and Morrigan are featured in DAI. Thus, jumping to another galaxy doesn't make a whole lot of sense when they obviously wouldn't be present on this "Ark."

 

5. My point is that the Mako is an Alliance Navy vehicle. Whereas the Ark theory and this survey are premised on the "Arkcon Pathfinder Initiative," which seems to be an entirely independent organization dedicated to exploration. Why would they have military-grade technology? Again, going back to the fact the main protagonist is using N7 armor and a heavily modified and advanced Mako, it's likely he/she is a soldier and not an explorer.

 

6. Mass Effect doesn't need to copy Dragon Age Inquisition. For one, DAI's open world exploration was largely a disappointment with grindy, MMO tendencies. It's clear bringing back the Mako and this focus on exploration is largely being drawn from ME1. Again, I doubt we will see much parallel between NME and DAI, if anything.

 

I stand by my initial statement that the likelihood of this survey being true is less than 1%. It just does not corroborate with what BioWare has told us about this game.


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 What did people expect?

Well, I, for instance, think they could have easily reduced Conrad Verner's appearance which changes depending on how you interacted with him in both previous games, if you collected licences and writings in ME1 and if you helped the twin from ME1 whose name I can't recall right now and instead made that amount of variables regarding choices like the Council or keeping or destroying the Collector Base.






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I think people are mixing up the in-universe reasons for going to Andromeda with the out-of-universe ones. 

 

"We" know that this decision was made most probably because ME3's endings changed the galaxy too much and they need to get away from the setting. If they could, I'm sure Bioware would've preferred to set it in the Milky Way.

 

But if we're looking at the potential explanations within the game for sending colonists to a new galaxy, a back-up plan to escape the Reapers isn't that far-fetched.

They didnt chance too much. Control and destroy is essentially the same outcome, exept control leaves robots alone. destroy, shep would be still alive.

 

Synthetic and letting harvest,is basically the same outcome. All are husks in both scenarios or minced meat.

 

Also those outcomes might be pseudo and just in the mind of the shepard (indoctrination theory).

 

 

back-up plan to another galaxy, we might even see older races from the milky way in there. Im sure many others tried to escape there too.



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My thoughts? It's absolute rubbish unless BioWare confirms it as being true. The survey is suggesting many things that BioWare has explicitly stated would not be the case in the next Mass Effect. This means either BioWare is lying, which could be true, or the survey is a hoax that is keeping you all occupied with its nonsense. I'm more inclined to believe the latter. I'll list a few things BioWare has stated that directly contradict the survey:

 

-The new protagonist will be "somehow related to N7" and even wears N7 armor. (Comic Con 2014)

-The new protagonist will be skilled, but not an established hero like Shepard. (N7 Day 2014)

-The new story of the next Mass Effect will be much more personal than the Shepard trilogy. (N7 Day 2014)

-It is very likely we will see familiar faces in the next Mass Effect. (Comic Con 2014)

-The Mako, an Alliance Navy vehicle, is making a return in a major way. (Comic Con 2014)

-The next Mass Effect will not use Dragon Age Inquisition as a template. (Aaryn Flynn interview)

  

These realities are enough to make anyone question the survey if they've actually followed closely what BioWare has stated about the next Mass Effect.

I agree completely.  Bioware will do the right thing and not run away from the trilogy.  The endings may only end up effecting the systems near active relays which leaves the rest of the Milky Way fair game.  That way interaction with 'familiar faces' would be possible, there could be a relationship with N7, you could have a non-established hero, and hey, you could even use a new version of the Mako,


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me4 should have taken place during the events of the trilogy

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Let me further elaborate on these points and why they are a contradiction.

 

1. The entire survey is based on the premise of the Ark theory. In other words, the Arkcon Pathfinder Initiative that BioWare Montreal teased in a tweet. We have no reason or evidence to suggest this is in any way affiliated with N7, let alone the Alliance Navy. Yet, the entire survey is built on the premise that you are a "patfinder," which appears to be an explorer and not a soldier. Thus, it's unlikely what we know from BioWare about the protagonist can also be true about what the survey suggests about the protagonist.

 

2. BioWare seemed to describe the new protagonist as a N7 recruit, similar to James Vega. He/She doesn't have a reputation yet, but has gotten far enough along to have been invited into an elite organization. Again, BioWare's explanation bears heavy weight that we seem to be going towards another military/soldier-esque story. The survey in no way supports that evidence.

 

3. You missed the point here. The new "story" in the survey is another conflict of galactic proportions with humanity on the line and the protagonist has to save it. What BioWare has described is we will not have another "Shepard story" and this will be much more intimate and building relationships with your crew. Again, more reason to believe this survey is fan-made.

 

4. Who exactly would constitute as a "familiar face" we could see outside the main party? Many of the side characters established throughout the trilogy died in ME3 in one way or another. I'm fairly certain BioWare was alluding to previous party members, similar to how Leliana and Morrigan are featured in DAI. Thus, jumping to another galaxy doesn't make a whole lot of sense when they obviously wouldn't be present on this "Ark."

 

5. My point is that the Mako is an Alliance Navy vehicle. Whereas the Ark theory and this survey are premised on the "Arkcon Pathfinder Initiative," which seems to be an entirely independent organization dedicated to exploration. Why would they have military-grade technology? Again, going back to the fact the main protagonist is using N7 armor and a heavily modified and advanced Mako, it's likely he/she is a soldier and not an explorer.

 

6. Mass Effect doesn't need to copy Dragon Age Inquisition. For one, DAI's open world exploration was largely a disappointment with grindy, MMO tendencies. It's clear bringing back the Mako and this focus on exploration is largely being drawn from ME1. Again, I doubt we will see much parallel between NME and DAI, if anything.

 

I stand by my initial statement that the likelihood of this survey being true is less than 1%. It just does not corroborate with what BioWare has told us about this game.

 

1. We also have no evidence to suggest that the Arkcon Pathfinder Initiative isn't affiliated with the military or the N7 program. 

 

2. A pathfinder could also be a military officer. Having military personnel also be explorers is common within Science Fiction, like for example Starfleet in Star Trek. It is also present within the Mass Effect lore, with Jon Grissom, the SSV Ibn Battuta or the SSV Kupe.

 

3. I'm not sure how many conclusions can be drawn from marketing speak, which has a track record of often being exaggerations of content in the game. Every recent Bioware release has had details that differed from statements made in marketing. How personal is the story of ME:Next? We don't know enough about the game to accurately say at this point whether or not it matches with the supposed leak details.

 

4. Plenty of side characters survived or have undetermined fates. Gianna Parasini could show up as one of the Andromeda colonists. I'm not suggesting she will or should, but she is an example of a character who was well liked by the fanbase who could. She isn't the only example either. I also think it is a big assumption that that vague statement about familiar faces refers to former squadmates. I don't think it is clear either way whether it was referring to squadmates or just familiar NPCs. We've seen a little bit of both in prior Bioware titles. (Varric and Leliana returning in DA:I, Isabela and Merrill getting promoted to companions in DA2 after cameos in DA:O)

 

5. Again, I think it is a big assumption that Arkcon is entirely non-military. We don't know enough about it to say one way or the other. Also we've already seen the Mako used by non-military personnel. The colonists on Feros had one.

 

6. I hope you are correct on that one, but I also think that is a big assumption.

 

The leak may well turn out to be false, but there isn't enough information on the game to rule it out yet. I'd give it about even odds right now.



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Actually every part of the leak fits perfectly with what we know about ME4 so far.

The "ME4 is totally not goin to be like DAI" statement is more PR than anything else. DAI's reception wasn't too good regarding it's open world large maps sidequest thing, lots of people complained about dull gameplay and lack of motivation etc. Understandable that BW implies that won't be the same in ME4 without straight forward confirming DAI's weeknesses.

But let's be realistic: Of course ME4 will use big parts of what BW created for DAI and what the devs learned about Frostbite engine during it. It would be stupid not to do so.

The leak isn't confirmed, but I'd say the propability for it to be legit is way over 50%.



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As for determining the fate of humanity, I guess that's something we'll find out in time. Maybe the Remnant technology is so powerful that the khet would use it to destroy us if they got their hands on it, or maybe (in human hands) it could be a source of huge advancement. 

 

 

Actually, this got me to thinking...   Which is more powerful?   Remnant tech or reaper tech/code?  Be prepared BioWare.   Be very, very, prepared.



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Actually every part of the leak fits perfectly with what we know about ME4 so far.

The "ME4 is totally not goin to be like DAI" statement is more PR than anything else. DAI's reception wasn't too good regarding it's open world large maps sidequest thing, lots of people complained about dull gameplay and lack of motivation etc. Understandable that BW implies that won't be the same in ME4 without straight forward confirming DAI's weeknesses.

But let's be realistic: Of course ME4 will use big parts of what BW created for DAI and what the devs learned about Frostbite engine during it. It would be stupid not to do so.

The leak isn't confirmed, but I'd say the propability for it to be legit is way over 50%.

 

Of course. Aaryn Flynn was commenting in a NeoGAF thread where people were bitching about DA:I's filler.