...kill.
Cassandra knows about this Seeker blood bending super power, but she's "informed that's it's quite rare."
Sounds like a possible hint at a possible future antagonist to me, and if so, I like it, but I wonder about the implementation (what kind of range would be necessary to affect someone with that ability for example). Of course, it would be nice if there was more clarity about how Seeker powers work in the first place.
Sorry if there's already a thread for this. Any thoughts?
I don't know, aren't all the seekers dead other than Cassandra and though she's never used it in game, she her major seeker ability to make mages and Templars kneel before Zod so to speak.
I'd wager that the Seekers rebuild in some form no matter what happens.
Truthfully, I want this in a future villain.
Thedas will be better off if the Seekers are hunted like witches after DA:I. This is just one more reason why.
The only Seeker left is Cassandra if you don't rebuild them, sooo...
The only Seeker left is Cassandra if you don't rebuild them, sooo...
Cassandra implies that there might be survivors scattered about Thedas, and that she would endeavor to find them if she were to rebuild the Seekers.
I'd rather put the Inquisition to work finding them first, so we can string them up.
How ultimate is the seeker power? Can a strong mage or templar resist it? One would think that Tevinter whom had millenias to research all things related with magic whould know of this, and counter it.
How ultimate is the seeker power? Can a strong mage or templar resist it? One would think that Tevinter whom had millenias to research all things related with magic whould know of this, and counter it.
Yes saw that, though for a nation born of magic and ruled by mages there seem to be a tad too little knowledge of countering magic there.
Even the Templars in Tevinter are not proper Templars, so may be the Magisters have just got complacent since the break with the southern Chantry. The Seekers were formed in the south specifically to deal with demons and malifacarum and were pretty secretive about the source of their abilities since even though own members are unaware of how they come by them, so I imagine the Lord Seeker would be very careful not to let anyone outside the Order learn of exactly what they can do and since the main ability to resist possession is acquired by essentially becoming tranquil, it is not something the majority of mages would be keen to dabble in.
Actually, thinking about it, the Magisters must have done some research or acquired some degree of information because they do know about the Rite of Tranquility - they use it to punish dissidents. However, they don't know about being able to reverse it (or not publically anyway) since Dorian asks Cassandra if the rumours are true, since he knows people who have been punished with tranquillity in Tevinter and I dare say would like to be able to help them.
The limits of their abilities are an unknown right now, but i think the mechanics behind the Seeker abilities are closely guarded secrets since they aren't well known outside of the Templar order. Any knowledge of their abilities would require there being a traitor/spy who the Order probably heavily screens for. It makes sense because In the wartable mission ''The Tevinter Resistance'' the Tevinter magisters were stumped by just the regular Templar abilities.
More outside the Seeker order I think you mean, the seekers aren't a habit of sharing their secrets outside their order especially to the Templars they oversee and of course as we now know the lord seekers themselves kept secrets from the rest of the seekers even the high seekers.
Thedas will be better off if the Seekers are hunted like witches after DA:I. This is just one more reason why.
Why? Power in it self is not evil...it's the person using it.
The limits of their abilities are an unknown right now, but i think the mechanics behind the Seeker abilities are closely guarded secrets since they aren't well known outside of the Templar order. Any knowledge of their abilities would require there being a traitor/spy who the Order probably heavily screens for. It makes sense because In the wartable mission ''The Tevinter Resistance'' the Tevinter magisters were stumped by just the regular Templar abilities.
Seeker= Spirit warrior
'nuff said.
Why? Power in it self is not evil...it's the person using it.
None of the current people who have it (assuming there are survivors) can be trusted. Aside from Cassandra.
None of the current people who have it (assuming there are survivors) can be trusted. Aside from Cassandra.
Bs.the issue is with the leaders(former) and chantry. Most are already dead and are not the source of abuse. That's like saying all mages should be killed because some are blood mages.
Why? Power in it self is not evil...it's the person using it.
Power gives the seekers strength, which enables dominance, which paves the way to abuse. It also risks giving some men the power to make others what they choose- regardless of human dignity. The Seekers are anonymous (granting them no accountability) and hold the power over the templars who they've used to politically bludgeon the divine and kirkwall. And the Lord Seeker can force the templars to follow a fear demon and force the templars to take red lyrium. Power unchecked is evil. And no plan has been institutionalized to prevent the Seekers' abuse from happening again.
Bs.the issue is with the leaders(former) and chantry. Most are already dead and are not the source of abuse. That's like saying all mages should be killed because some are blood mages.
The Seekers had their chance do acruelly do their job before the war. Then the remaining survivors had theit chance while the Inquisition was working to save the world. Both Templars and mages from all around Thedas stepped up the plate, and where were they?
They incriminate themselves. Thedas shouldn't suffer their continued existance.
then your overlooking the problem. the issue was never the group, it was the people leading the group who was the issue. That would be the lord seeker and the chantry.
Most are dead or being hunted by Cory's henchmen. Sorry but it's not the groups fault all this happened.
Power gives the seekers strength, which enables dominance, which paves the way to abuse. It also risks giving some men the power to make others what they choose- regardless of human dignity. The Seekers are anonymous (granting them no accountability) and hold the power over the templars who they've used to politically bludgeon the divine and kirkwall. And the Lord Seeker can force the templars to follow a fear demon and force the templars to take red lyrium. Power unchecked is evil. And no plan has been institutionalized to prevent the Seekers' abuse from happening again.
Power does not equal to abuse. it's lack of care and indifference. And the seekers are not anonymous, they are ,in theory, to be controlled by the Divine. The issue is that for years the Divine that lead during the majority of the blessed age lax in that control.
then your overlooking the problem. the issue was never the group, it was the people leading the group who was the issue. That would be the lord seeker and the chantry.
Most are dead or being hunted by Cory's henchmen. Sorry but it's not the groups fault all this happened.
As I said, whatever survivors remain were free to aid the Inquisition at their leisure, especially since they were no longer bound by their leadership. But, for whatever reason, they hid. Not a single finger was lifted to help the people of Thedas.
Because of this (and the example previously set by Cassandra), being burdened by poor leadership is not an excuse I will allow them to have. It certainly wouldn't save them from the noose.
After Lucius betrayed the Seekers the survivors who were in hiding probably had their hands full in trying to evade the extensive Venatori spy network. I Wouldn't put it past Lucius to provide the Venatori with information on the order's surviving personnel who are a threat to his goal of a NWO.As I said, whatever survivors remain were free to aid the Inquisition at their leisure, especially since they were no longer bound by their leadership. But, for whatever reason, they hid. Not a single finger was lifted to help the people of Thedas.
Because of this (and the example previously set by Cassandra), being burdened by poor leadership is not an excuse I will allow them to have. It certainly wouldn't save them from the noose.
After Lucius betrayed the Seekers the survivors who were in hiding probably had their hands full in trying to evade the extensive Venatori spy network. I Wouldn't put it past Lucius to provide the Venatori with information on the order's surviving personnel who are a threat to his goal of a NWO.
I don't see why he would even need to do that, considering that as per his plan the victims wouldn't even realize he was a traitor until it was already too late. His plan was still ongoing until the Inquisitor's arrival at Caer Oswin. The remaining Seekers are rendered survivors by his death.
Thanks for the clarification, i thought he lured the majority of the Seekers to Oswin and had them ganked. I'm close to unlocking the mission on my second pt so i'll check this out.I don't see why he would even need to do that, considering that as per his plan the victims wouldn't even realize he was a traitor until it was already too late. His plan was still ongoing until the Inquisitor's arrival at Caer Oswin. The remaining Seekers are rendered survivors by his death.
Well if anywhere already on missions as some of them likely were, they would be continuing it, seekers work usually in pairs out of regional fortresses so they would be finishing their mission then returning to reporting back to the local seeker fortress's high seeker or the lord seeker himself. If there are any survivors it is most likely because they were already on a mission so Lord Lucius didn't yet have a opportunity to lure them to their deaths.
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